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| TheJulia | harlowja: they approached ironic as "Would you be mad at us if we pushed this" and we went "No, we encourage it!" | 00:25 |
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| harlowja | cool i think | 00:27 |
| SamYaple | TheJulia: what was this in reference to? | 00:35 |
| SamYaple | ah the kollaas new devstack thing? | 00:35 |
| harlowja | pretty much | 00:35 |
| SamYaple | yea im in the if you cant beat em, join em camp now | 00:36 |
| SamYaple | sketched out how to use docker iamges with devstack | 00:36 |
| SamYaple | keeps the config and most other bits in devstack, but has the containers for +++ | 00:36 |
| SamYaple | the biggestissue when we were looking at tackling that in kolla was the building from source containers when needed | 00:37 |
| SamYaple | like if youre using devstack and want to apply and test a patch its rather easy | 00:37 |
| harlowja | where is said sketch out? | 00:38 |
| SamYaple | not so much in kolla | 00:38 |
| SamYaple | harlowja: in my brain head | 00:38 |
| harlowja | ah | 00:38 |
| SamYaple | was going to get it POC and then do a spec/look into how to get it going with devstack | 00:38 |
| harlowja | cool | 00:38 |
| SamYaple | im on the devstack-container-plugin team for this reason | 00:38 |
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| harlowja | good to know | 00:39 |
| SamYaple | at the endof the day, if you lay down the configs, whether its a screen with apache running, or a docker container with apache running, it should work the same | 00:40 |
| harlowja | well in all reality, i'd really like to know what devs would actually like | 00:40 |
| harlowja | vs like say, what the gate would like | 00:41 |
| harlowja | i'd think it neat if devs could spin up a vagrant VM cluster (using kolla containers) that would actually somewhat mirror a deployment | 00:42 |
| SamYaple | cinder has their block-box thing and there is at least one dev that devs with that | 00:42 |
| harlowja | ya, i would bet someone has tried it, ha | 00:42 |
| SamYaple | that wouldbe the flow im talking about | 00:42 |
| SamYaple | source change, recreate contaienr, redeploy | 00:42 |
| harlowja | cool | 00:43 |
| harlowja | to me the gate should use say the same containers, but like a different deployment thing (not on a laptop) | 00:43 |
| SamYaple | ive got LOCI purposed in governance now with a devstack tie in planned to make devstack use those iamges. they were built with this kind of thing in mind, CICD | 00:43 |
| harlowja | cool | 00:44 |
| SamYaple | eh maybe. but again, if it isnt broke, dont fix it kind of thing | 00:44 |
| harlowja | i'd question the 'it isnt broke' | 00:44 |
| SamYaple | agreed | 00:44 |
| harlowja | though yes, i know, some people will say this | 00:44 |
| harlowja | i also am about to go ride my horse | 00:44 |
| SamYaple | but getting rid of the screen stuff and switching to contaienrs would resolve a ton of issues | 00:44 |
| harlowja | cause u know, i love my horse | 00:44 |
| SamYaple | :) | 00:45 |
| SamYaple | ivenever personally deployed devstackbeyond one time just to understand the bits i did not like about it | 00:45 |
| harlowja | its odd on highways, but u know if it isnt broke, dont fix it | 00:45 |
| harlowja | :-P | 00:45 |
| * harlowja horse analogy over, ha | 00:45 | |
| SamYaple | yea you wouldnt want to continue to beat that thing, im pretty sure its dead | 00:46 |
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| harlowja | yup, it is, ha | 00:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dougal Matthews proposed openstack/governance master: Add tripleo-common-tempest-plugin https://review.openstack.org/517624 | 13:52 |
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| SamYaple | what are the bylaws or similiar rules for the TC voting on projects? is there a set time frame that requires a vote or thepatch is forfiet? not sure where the exact rules are documeted | 21:50 |
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