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| fungi | tc-members: office hours engage | 01:00 |
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| SamYaple | fungi: that is definetely a good point. but to date ive not really seen a deployment tool that didnt want to cover the "100%", certainly not one that limits it by scope | 01:15 |
| fungi | all the more reason to give it a go | 01:19 |
| fungi | so is loci then an opinionated, security-oriented/hardened deployment model? | 01:20 |
| fungi | or are you starting another deployment project? | 01:20 |
| SamYaple | no. loci is just image building | 01:20 |
| SamYaple | loci has a hard "no deployment tool" policy attached to it | 01:20 |
| fungi | ahh, so building on top of it | 01:20 |
| SamYaple | yes | 01:20 |
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| SamYaple | consuming it just like OSH is consuming it | 01:21 |
| fungi | osh... openstack-helm? | 01:22 |
| SamYaple | yes | 01:22 |
| fungi | i find it best not to make assumptions about abbreviations/acronyms around these parts ;) | 01:28 |
| SamYaple | reasonable :) | 01:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tristan Cacqueray proposed openstack/governance master: Add log-classify to infra project https://review.openstack.org/522166 | 08:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/governance master: Retired ceilometerclient https://review.openstack.org/522186 | 09:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/governance master: Retired ceilometerclient https://review.openstack.org/522186 | 12:53 |
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| cdent | good writeup mugsie | 19:53 |
| mugsie | cheers :) | 19:53 |
| cdent | I reckon if we merged all of them together in some massive writeup we’d have a very colorful view of the world | 19:54 |
| mugsie | made sure your survey got a shout out :) | 19:54 |
| cdent | yeah, thanks for that | 19:54 |
| mugsie | merging them would be interesting alright | 19:55 |
| mugsie | I know mine go to planet openstack, but that can get busy | 19:56 |
| cdent | I suppose since everyone saw something different we would either get a very complete picture, or everything would cancel each other out | 19:56 |
| cdent | “it was a great summit” + “this seemed like the weakest one yet” = 0 | 19:56 |
| mugsie | yeah - but I think we will have those 2 sides for each and every summit. | 20:01 |
| mugsie | I do think combining these from people who were at different sessions / tracks or even Forum / Summit might give a good overview | 20:02 |
| mugsie | e.g. I spend 90% of my time on the 4th floor at the forum | 20:02 |
| dhellmann | mugsie : I share your concern about the top-down roadmap thing. | 20:13 |
| mugsie | dhellmann: yeah - I wish they could have had time to expand on it, just incase I missed something | 20:15 |
| mugsie | but what i saw on the slide did worry me | 20:15 |
| dhellmann | a similar sort of message came up at the board meeting in boston from the same person | 20:15 |
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| cdent | mugsie: similar stuff shows up in many of the “openstack and nfv gaps” presentations | 20:33 |
| cdent | it’s all mostly led by telcos who are dissatisfied with the velocity of “their” labor pool | 20:34 |
| mugsie | yeah, and telcos that are trying to fork lift what was appliances directly into the cloud with little to no changes | 20:35 |
| mugsie | if you need a VM with numa pinning, PCI device thru, and SR-IOV with 40Gb/s bandwith, just put it on a bare metal machine | 20:36 |
| mugsie | device passthrough* | 20:36 |
| cdent | everybody wants openstack-in-a-box | 20:40 |
| cdent | but with performance guarantees | 20:40 |
| dhellmann | and yet when nebula sold that it didn't go so well | 20:40 |
| cdent | which perhaps that’s a thing, but that’s not cloud | 20:40 |
| cdent | dhellmann: yeah, weird, huh? | 20:40 |
| dhellmann | nah, I have lots of experience with people who won't pay for what they ask for | 20:41 |
| cdent | plenty of common things are weird... | 20:44 |
| dhellmann | true. weird but not unusual. | 20:44 |
| cdent | notmyname: aw shit, did you just imply I’m an insider? I’ve been co-opted and lost my cool... | 20:47 |
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| notmyname | cdent: ;-) | 20:47 |
| cdent | I think that’s a good enough reason for me to leave the internets for the day. Thank you and good night. | 20:48 |
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| notmyname | lol | 20:48 |
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| mugsie | in a great show of integrating the "edge" people with the rest of openstack, they now have their own mailing list -_- | 21:07 |
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| fungi | mugsie: i got the impression it was more for the administrative traffic since it's being set up as a separate community under the openstack foundation rather than part of openstack itself. there's a whole "unbranding" effort pending for us to de-openstack anything that's not openstack-the-product, so if we can swing it that ml will move to a different vhost on a separate domain in an effort to encourage | 22:36 |
| fungi | participation from organizaions/people who are otherwise turned off by the idea/perception that they might be working on openstack | 22:36 |
| fungi | it's not at all about inegrating the edge computing community with openstack, but rather giving them somewhere to form a community of their own without the shadow of openstack | 22:37 |
| fungi | at least, that was my understanding of the presentation to the foundation board | 22:38 |
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| * dhellmann wonders what we will call the things the openstack foundation does that don't want to have openstack in their name | 23:17 | |
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| fungi | gödel incompleteness? | 23:37 |
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| * fungi sometimes wonders whether his jokes are too steeped in math theory | 23:40 | |
| fungi | perhaps instead i should have simply likened it to the xkcd strip about defining new standards | 23:43 |
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