Friday, 2017-12-01

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TheJuliafungi: I'm imagining the MBDLMDCM and thinking it could replace a few TV shows....00:26
fungithe revolution will _not_ be televised, sorry00:29
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TheJuliaheh00:39
TheJuliais there any relation to the revolution and cats climbing into suitcases? Seems like there is....00:39
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Add designate to the tc:approved-release tag  https://review.openstack.org/52158708:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Stable policy applies to main OpenStack components  https://review.openstack.org/52104908:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Retired ceilometerclient  https://review.openstack.org/52218609:03
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Update team corporate diversity tags  https://review.openstack.org/52253609:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Add openstack/governance-sigs repo under Meta SIG  https://review.openstack.org/52254409:08
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Rename 'top-5 help wanted' to 'help most needed'  https://review.openstack.org/52061909:22
ttxTracker updated09:31
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ttxProposed moving the tox-validate job to the experimental pipeline since it's expected to regularly fail: https://review.openstack.org/52456311:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Add tripleo-ipsec to tripleo deliverables  https://review.openstack.org/52312611:45
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openstackgerritChandan Kumar proposed openstack/governance master: Update tempest plugin split goal for Blazar team  https://review.openstack.org/52458113:05
openstackgerritChandan Kumar proposed openstack/governance master: Mark the completion of tempest plugin split goal for cloudkitty team  https://review.openstack.org/52458213:09
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openstackgerritChandan Kumar proposed openstack/governance master: Update tempest plugin split goal for Blazar team  https://review.openstack.org/52458113:16
openstackgerritChandan Kumar proposed openstack/governance master: Update tempest plugin split goal for Cyborg team  https://review.openstack.org/52458413:17
openstackgerritChandan Kumar proposed openstack/governance master: Update tempest plugin split goal for Loci team  https://review.openstack.org/52458613:20
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openstackgerritChandan Kumar proposed openstack/governance master: Update tempest plugin split goal for Masakari team  https://review.openstack.org/52458713:23
openstackgerritChandan Kumar proposed openstack/governance master: Update tempest plugin split goal for OpenStack-Helm team  https://review.openstack.org/52458913:27
openstackgerritChandan Kumar proposed openstack/governance master: Mark the completion of Tempest plugin split goal for Tripleo team  https://review.openstack.org/52459513:31
openstackgerritChandan Kumar proposed openstack/governance master: Update tempest plugin split goal for Masakari team  https://review.openstack.org/52458713:32
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openstackgerritChandan Kumar proposed openstack/governance master: Mark the completion of tempest plugin split goal for Neutron Team  https://review.openstack.org/52460513:52
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: gerrit has been restarted to get it back to its normal speed.13:52
openstackgerritChandan Kumar proposed openstack/governance master: Mark the completion of tempest plugin split goal for Neutron Team  https://review.openstack.org/52460513:56
ttxWe are approaching the one-year anniversary since the general drop in OpenStack activity... Been comparing peak activity (Nov 2015-Nov 2016) to last year activity (Nov 2016-Nov 2017), here is the report:14:11
ttxhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/srxw36lNbL14:11
ttxMost projects are around a 30% drop, which I consider a normal post-hype correction. Some projects are in better shape, some in much worse shape.14:12
ttxI'd say teams in the [-60% -80%] bracket require our attention14:13
ttxTeams in the [-40% -60%] are clearly in the 'warning' zone14:13
ttxNo real surprise in there, except maybe that Designate and Freezer fare better than I would have expected14:15
ttxStorlets fares worse than I expected, but maybe it's mostly "done" now14:16
cdentttx perhaps designate and freezer would fare differently on a 6 month comparison?14:16
ttx5month comparison are harder since activity fluctuates in the year14:16
ttx6-month I mean14:17
ttxlet me check14:17
cdentI was just thinking that based on what smcginnis was saying about freezer it may be that there was a low, a pickup, and then a new low that’s not as low as the original low14:19
ttxcdent: looking at graphs designate started dropping a bit earlier, and then maintained itself pretty well14:19
cmurphyi'm surprised about ec2-api14:19
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ttxec2api activity is low since 2005-1114:20
ttxerr14:20
ttx2015-1114:20
ttxalmost no activity in thye first mobths of 2016, then picked up again14:20
ttxso those have a drop pattern that is not matching the dates I selected14:21
ttxstats outliers14:21
ttxWe knew searchlight and trove had issues, we'll probably need to engage with storlets and murano and see what's up tehre14:23
ttxif anyone wants to take on that let us all know :)14:23
ttxpackaging-deb was supposed to be removed this cycle14:23
ttxmaybe fungi knows how close that is14:24
fungii really don't, but can ping wendar and zigo14:26
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dtroyerI recall conversations around ec2api and killing it off that raised some users out of lurking…don't remember just when that was14:26
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ttxfungi: please do14:27
fungii mean, there is actually no ptl and no activity in packaging-deb any longer (at least no activity within our infrastructure) so we could just decide it's done i guess14:27
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cmurphyi had heard somewhere that there might be trademark concerns about reimplementing the ec2 api? but then I couldn't find any reference ot that14:27
fungibut i'll find out14:27
cmurphyso i might have been dreaming14:27
ttxfungi: I think there was some infrastructure-y concerns around the cutoff date14:27
fungittx: i don't suppose you have activity numbers for infra? just curious14:29
fungii'm guessing it's highish, since we tend to farm out our activity to our end users14:30
ttxyes I do just a sec14:33
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ttxInfra would score in the "significant drop" bucket, with - 27.54 % changes proposed, - 27.78 % merged commits and - 33.87 % contributors (merged commits)14:34
ttxand yes it's probably mostly a reflection of the average drop14:35
openstackgerritChandan Kumar proposed openstack/governance master: Mark the completion of Tempest plugin split goal for Tripleo team  https://review.openstack.org/52459514:38
smcginnisI thought packaging-deb was no longer needed as that work was being done outside of OpenStack proper.14:38
ttxsmcginnis: yes14:40
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/governance master: Update shade team metainfo  https://review.openstack.org/52351914:47
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/governance master: Rename shade team to OpenStackSDK  https://review.openstack.org/52352014:47
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/governance master: Move os-client-config to OpenStackSDK from OpenStackClient team  https://review.openstack.org/52424914:47
mordredttx, fungi, cmurphy, dtroyer: as I recall, tim bell / cern use ec2api heavily and are usually pretty vocal about needing it14:56
ttxlast I checked it is pretty viable14:57
cmurphyjust from trying to read its documentation i had gotten the impression it wasn't getting much love, i'm clearly mistaken15:04
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dhellmanncmurphy : I think the question with ec2 api was around copyright, based on something like https://gigaom.com/2014/05/09/oracle-v-google-ruling-shows-why-cloud-players-may-have-steered-clear-of-amazon-apis/ although I don't know the latest on that case16:02
dhellmannoslo is on the "significant" list but I know we have several ongoing projects related to config and policy16:03
dhellmannthose libraries are pretty stable now, so I'm not surprised to see them receiving few changes16:03
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cdentcmurphy: +∞ on the keystone weekly report \o/. I’m just working on this weeks placement update. It’s hard work.16:36
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fungii feel far more up-to-date on the general goings-on of keystone than i ever have, even though i do try to at least skim basically everything which hits the dev ml17:35
fungithanks cmurphy!17:35
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lbragstadcdent: fungi ++18:29
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cmurphyyay \o/19:20
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack/governance master: Retire Packaging Deb project repos  https://review.openstack.org/52473221:27
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fungittx: ^ i looked into the situation and saw that tonyb and wendar had gotten as far as merging the changes for step #2 in the retirement process, then caught up with zigo in #debian-openstack (on oftc) and confirmed he was cool with me moving forward on the remaining steps22:31
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