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fungi | that was another quiet office hour just now | 02:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Update the policy-in-code goal for neutron https://review.openstack.org/625276 | 16:47 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: add a note to chair duties about tracking board work https://review.openstack.org/626644 | 16:52 |
dhellmann | tc-members: my apologies for the short notice on the agenda for this month's meeting: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-January/001354.html | 17:07 |
dhellmann | also, happy new year | 17:07 |
dhellmann | :-) | 17:07 |
fungi | thanks! | 17:08 |
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fungi | tomorrow will be the one-month anniversary of closing down the general openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-operators and openstack-sigs mailing lists | 18:12 |
fungi | i'm planning to send out an openstack-discuss adoption report, but for preliminary numbers we're up to 703 subscribers, and 70% of the addresses seen posting at least 10 messages to one or more of those four old lists in 2018 are now subscribed to the new list | 18:13 |
cdent | 703 is fewer than I would prefer | 18:16 |
cdent | not sure why I feel that way | 18:16 |
persia | I read "703" as "About two-thirds of regular contributors have been attending the smaller gatherings recently". | 18:17 |
fungi | comparing posting volume, in december of 2017 we saw 1033 in total across the four old lists, and openstack-discuss had 912 posts in december of 2018, so comparable | 18:18 |
fungi | relatively in keeping with the decline in posting volume we've seen over the past several years | 18:19 |
fungi | for context, the openstack-sigs mailing list, which was supposed to be our place for community-wide discussion before we realized it wasn't working out, only garnered 183 subscribers over the 16 months it existed | 18:22 |
fungi | and in 2018 only saw posts from a total of 100 different addresses | 18:23 |
cdent | I suspect openstack-sigs suffered from a lack of advertising and definition | 18:41 |
cdent | for example, just then is the first time I've heard it being described as _the_ place for community-wide discussion | 18:42 |
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fungi | well, sigs were intended as the vehicle for topics cutting across operational and development demographics, and openstack-sigs was defined as the communications channel for them | 21:32 |
fungi | but if we didn't get a critical mass of people in developer and operator roles to subscribe and post to it, then that was never going to actually become true | 21:33 |
fungi | as the saying goes, "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink" and now we've at least succeeded in leading our horses to the water anyway | 21:34 |
fungi | i think we'll need a lot more time to see if they really drink more than they were | 21:35 |
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