Friday, 2019-03-22

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evrardjplbragstad --thanks that's great09:31
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mnasertc-members: jroll has added a spot with the vision team reflections here.  it's a doc change so we can technically merge it now, but i'd feel better with more votes if people feel like it's in the right place :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/644953/13:51
zanebjroll: I like the idea, but I wonder if we should wait until we have a few more before merging?13:52
zanebjust having one looks a little sad ;)13:53
jrollzaneb: my hope is to set up the structure so the other teams can add their own, rather than us going back and finding them all13:53
jrollthere's at least a few in progress13:53
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openstackgerritJim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/governance master: Add resolution to namespace unofficial projects  https://review.openstack.org/64560114:24
jroll^ this is not ready to land, but has a few open questions for early reviewers. note that the great opendev migration is planned for april 19, so we need to be relatively expedient here.14:26
jrollcorvus: ^ my comments have a question specifically for the opendev folks there14:27
fungithe sponges migrated a foot and a half14:28
corvusjroll: responded with some thoughts14:36
jrollthanks!14:36
corvusjroll: btw, that looks like options #2 -- is option #4 still in the running?14:37
jrollcorvus: I'm not strictly opposed to #4, but I think it's a huge amount of work for a small amount of value. and selfishly, as a dev, I don't want to hunt through namespaces to find the thing I'm looking for.14:38
corvusjroll: ack14:38
jrollif someone wants to champion that effort, I'm happy to abandon this resolution14:38
ttxjroll: I think #2 is a good compromise14:48
jrollcool :)14:48
ttxWe can do #4 as part of the GitHub selective replication is we want to present our code marketing properties in this way14:48
zanebjroll: how about "wilderness" instead of "unknown"? :)14:49
evrardjp:)14:50
evrardjpa wild project appears14:50
jrollheh14:51
fungii agree that if the real concern with non-devs or devs unfamiliar with our workflow looking on github, then it's entirely doable to replicate to different namespaces there if the people interested in github replication want to keep up with that curation and classification work14:51
fungi(and to bitbucket and gitlab and anywhere else we think they may be looking)14:52
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mnasertc-members: fungi started a thread and etherpads on feedback for the confirmation of kata and zuul for the board.  i'm starting mine now (looks like no one has put up any yet), please take sometime to add it as we need to have it done before march 31st -- http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-March/003938.html14:59
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fungiwe should also encourage other members of the community to add any information they have15:06
fungiespecially contributors on related projects like zun, magnum, kolla, loci...15:06
fungifor the kata feedback pad i mean15:07
fungiand contributors across our community likely have feedback on zuul15:07
mnaserfungi: i think maybe resending that email with a reminder and adding [all] might be a helpful factor?15:10
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fungiyep, can certainly do15:21
ttxjroll: commented. My preference is to strongly encourage unofficial projects to grab their own opendev namespace, rather than create or resurrect a brand that might make it desirable to stay in a common namespace.15:21
fungididn't know if openstack folks interested in giving feedback on upcoming oip confirmations were likely to be the same ones also paying attention to [tc] tagged messages, so didn't want to spam [all] unnecessarily15:22
ttxMaybe "unnamed" is more accurate than "unknown" while being equally undesirable.15:22
fungiuntamed ;)15:25
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jrollthanks ttx15:28
jrollI think I'll let people comment throughout the day and try to update monday if we have some consensus15:28
ttxunherded15:30
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ttxtc-members I booked the Saturday April 27 dinner. That will be 12 of us at 8pm at Rioja, https://goo.gl/maps/vgyTxspM8fE216:37
ttxThat's a 12min walk from the Hyatt and other hotels around the CC16:38
ttxKeep me informed in case of changes or if you can't make it.16:39
* jroll will take that time to look at pictures on yelp and wish he was there16:40
ttxhehe, sorry about that16:40
fungijroll: we can't even get you there by train? ;)16:45
jrollheh16:45
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evrardjpfungi: I smiled.16:51
evrardjpnot sure if I should have16:51
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edmondswso I was told someone would contact me about the leaderless-ness of PowerVMStackers once the elections were over, but nobody has17:29
edmondswshould I be concerned, or just wait and it'll happen17:30
edmondswsaw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/644717/ is up marking things leaderless...17:32
fungiedmondsw: see https://review.openstack.org/64512617:34
fungiplease provide feedback there17:34
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edmondswfungi awesome, thanks17:35
fungimy pleasure!17:36
fungiit's one of three appointment changes for the teams which had no qualifying ptl candidate step forward during the nomination period17:37
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fungi644717 is what's proposed by the delegated election officials to reflect the outcome of the election process itself, but then it's up to the technical committee to appoint substitutions (or take other action) where the election process yielded no viable ptl17:40
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