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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Add ansible-role-collect-logs project to tripleo https://review.openstack.org/647665 | 06:59 |
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| mugsie | Is the board meeting PST or PDT? the email says PST, but I am assuming people just s/standard/daylight/ during the summer months | 09:35 |
| * mugsie thinks we should get rid of all timezones and work in UTC | 09:36 | |
| * ricolin never understand PDT | 09:45 | |
| ricolin | the wiki said PST though https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/8April2019BoardMeeting | 09:46 |
| mugsie | Yeah, that's why I am confused :) - it does not make sense to schedule a meeting in a timezone that is not in use | 10:00 |
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| jroll | this is why I tend to just write e.g. pacific time :P | 11:47 |
| jroll | I would assume it means PDT - 2 hours from now | 11:48 |
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| mugsie | Yeah, that's what I am going with | 12:30 |
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| mnaser | indeed the calendar invite seems to show it in 1.5hrs now | 12:31 |
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| fungi | yes, board call in ~15 minutes, potentially inducting kata containers and zuul into the set of open infrastructure projects | 13:45 |
| fungi | side channel discussions presumably in #openstack-board as usual | 13:45 |
| clarkb | People often use the standard timezone designator year round and mean the daylight timezone when in use | 13:47 |
| fungi | except that calendar invites also include a utc offset with that | 13:48 |
| fungi | so to have an invite say "...PST (UTC-0900)" and then expect people to know that they should calculate that as UTC-0800 is unfortunately absurd | 13:49 |
| fungi | er, i guess that's -0800 and -0700 but anyway | 13:49 |
| fungi | you get the idea | 13:49 |
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| clarkb | our legislative bodies are currently working to make it simpler by going to year round daylight time :) | 13:52 |
| fungi | "simpler" | 13:53 |
| clarkb | ya I guess if canada doesn't switch too it will get complicated | 13:53 |
| clarkb | does mexico DST? and now I'm way off topic | 13:53 |
| fungi | i expect that calendar software however will continue to perpetually refer to it as "pst (utc-0800)" even when the west coast of the usa ceases to ever actually observe that tz | 13:54 |
| mnaser | tc-members: board meeting call about to start up in the next few minutes at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/8April2019BoardMeeting | 13:58 |
| gmann | o/ | 13:58 |
| jroll | thanks for the reminder, mnaser | 14:01 |
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| ttx | For those not on teh OSF Board call, Kata containers just got confirmed as an OSF Open Infrastructure Project | 14:54 |
| ttx | Now on to Zuul | 14:54 |
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| mnaser | and for those who aren't on it, Zuul was not confirmed due to the board evaluating the wording around allowing usage of GPL licensed tools | 16:12 |
| mnaser | or for lack of a better term 'legal logistics' | 16:12 |
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| fungi | or (editorializing) 'unfounded fear of the copyleft movement' | 18:46 |
| fungi | for those who missed it, stackalytics may be an open source project again: https://review.openstack.org/632805 | 18:51 |
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| smcginnis | That would be nice. The current site hasn't had accurate data for several weeks now. | 19:04 |
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| mugsie | fungi: that's pretty close. | 20:03 |
| * mugsie has a line in his notes that reads something like "then the meeting ratholed" for that section | 20:04 | |
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| fungi | something something "viral" something | 20:44 |
| clarkb | "infectious" was the term used this time around iirc | 20:45 |
| fungi | like infectious laughter | 20:47 |
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| dhellmann | which components of zuul are gpl? | 21:22 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: the bits that run in the ansible processes and zuul-proxy a small C++ program that does path wrangling for javascript things that expected to be rooted at / (so that they can be loaded out of your logs server for previews) | 21:23 |
| dhellmann | ah | 21:24 |
| clarkb | ansible is gplv3 so the bits that "link" there need to be gplv3 too. Not sure why zuul-proxy ended up gplv3. Possibly one of the http/json libs is gplv3? | 21:24 |
| mugsie | zuul-preview links gnulib and gettext apparently | 21:33 |
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| fungi | yep, both of which are gpl | 22:08 |
| fungi | zuul-proxy is also somewhat unique in this case as it's in c++ (for performance reasons) rather than in python, so the difference in license is somewhat related to the language ecosystem | 22:09 |
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