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| openstackgerrit | Ian Y. Choi proposed openstack/governance master: I18n Extra-ATCs for Train https://review.opendev.org/674049 | 14:28 |
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| zaneb | o/ | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 15:07 |
| jroll | ahoy | 15:09 |
| ttx | o/ | 15:09 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 15:09 |
| ttx | Plug: please review https://review.opendev.org/#/c/667932/ or let me know what's wrong with it | 15:10 |
| ttx | It's been a month and so far only 3 +2 | 15:10 |
| ttx | In other news, jroll and I are starting the promised GitHub org cleanup activity. Reach out to us if you want to do some work around that, but otherwise we should have it convered | 15:10 |
| ttx | My big thing for today's office hours is starting to plan for Shanghai Forum topics | 15:11 |
| ttx | (I took the action to remind the TC about it in time) | 15:11 |
| evrardjp | thanks for the reminder then | 15:12 |
| evrardjp | :) | 15:12 |
| ttx | Some points that were raised during the discussion in Denver PTG: | 15:12 |
| evrardjp | I think the big thing was goals? | 15:12 |
| ttx | - need to not forget the goal session | 15:12 |
| evrardjp | that's what we missed | 15:12 |
| evrardjp | haha yeah | 15:12 |
| ttx | - better socialize dev attendance to those sessions | 15:12 |
| ttx | - write a doc about good forum sessioning and have OSF staff communicate it to session moderators the weeks before the event | 15:13 |
| ttx | - need to select the TC reps to the forum session selection committee | 15:13 |
| ttx | we need two delegates | 15:14 |
| ttx | any volunteer | 15:14 |
| evrardjp | when is the timeframe you need help on that selection? | 15:14 |
| ttx | Looking at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum | 15:15 |
| ttx | (which should soon be updated) | 15:16 |
| ttx | Forum topic submission deadline is T-7 weeks | 15:16 |
| ttx | Scheduling committee final meeting is T-4 weeks | 15:16 |
| ttx | So the peak activity for the scheduling committee is between T-7 and T-4 weeks | 15:16 |
| evrardjp | "March 10th" that sounds available :) | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | is that 7 weeks before the event? or 7 weeks before the end of the train cycle? | 15:17 |
| ttx | event | 15:17 |
| ttx | T=0 Forum Time! | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | ok, so I make that the week of Sept 16th for T-7 | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | right around the end of the tc election | 15:18 |
| ttx | yes, diablo_rojo_phon should update that timeline with Shanghai dates soon | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | so we should probably pull volunteers from the list of tc members who are not up for election this term | 15:18 |
| ttx | dhellmann: ++ | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | we usually do that anyway | 15:18 |
| mnaser | on unrelated topic: ovh was kind enough to share this in the public cloud meeting today -- http://paste.openstack.org/show/755216/ | 15:19 |
| ttx | anyone up for starting an etherpad for forum topics ? That way we can place the goals session on it right now :) | 15:19 |
| * mnaser checks | 15:20 | |
| mnaser | so if im not wrong, this leaves asettle mugsie jroll mnaser ricolin__ ttx zaneb as the ones that can do that | 15:20 |
| * dhellmann wonders which tc-members are around for office hours | 15:20 | |
| mnaser | i guess i can volunteer getting the initial forum topics etherpad and sharing it with the ML | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | that looks right, mnaser | 15:21 |
| fungi | i am sort of around | 15:21 |
| fungi | our broadband provider seems to have lost contact with the mainland at 15:00z precisely (i'm back on through a wireless modem for now) | 15:21 |
| mnaser | does anyone have the link to the last forum session handy | 15:21 |
| mnaser | just as an easy build-out template | 15:22 |
| evrardjp | I think that's on the link ttx gave | 15:22 |
| mnaser | (also, i will be sending out stuff for meeting to be had next week) | 15:22 |
| dhellmann | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DEN-Train-TC-brainstorming | 15:22 |
| evrardjp | or did I misunderstand the question? | 15:22 |
| fungi | also trying to juggle this and the security sig meeting, so mostly here in a read-only capacity at the moment | 15:22 |
| mnaser | given that we don't have.. an official release name yet | 15:23 |
| zaneb | mnaser: has cmurphy seen that paste from OVH? | 15:23 |
| mnaser | zaneb: its hot off the press so dont know if it got there yet | 15:23 |
| dhellmann | evrardjp : I think mnaser was looking for the etherpad we used to plan the last forum | 15:23 |
| mnaser | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PVG-TC-brainstorming cause we don't have a release name yet.. | 15:24 |
| mnaser | ill fill it out now | 15:24 |
| gmann | I feel we should start the U cycle goal collection discussions early? Shanghai event will be late for that. | 15:24 |
| cmurphy | zaneb: only just now | 15:24 |
| cmurphy | in another meeting atm | 15:24 |
| gmann | at least ML to ask for goal ideas and volunteer | 15:24 |
| dhellmann | what's the next step in the name selection process? | 15:25 |
| jroll | late, but I would prefer someone who will be in shanghai to own the forum topics | 15:25 |
| * jroll won't | 15:25 | |
| dhellmann | gmann : yes, the point is to ensure we have a forum session to talk about the goals for the V cycle since we missed having one for the U cycle at the last forum | 15:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Y. Choi proposed openstack/governance master: I18n Extra-ATCs for Train https://review.opendev.org/674049 | 15:25 |
| mnaser | this is more just to organize and gather thoughts and not as much being there so anyone can partake, i think :) | 15:26 |
| gmann | dhellmann: ok. sounds good for V cycle. But we need do for U too? at least over ML. | 15:26 |
| dhellmann | yes, maybe we need 2 sessions this time | 15:27 |
| mnaser | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Shanghai2019#Etherpads_from_Teams_and_Working_Groups i added it there | 15:27 |
| gmann | i was thinking to have V cycle at forum and U cycle we start before event itself over ML. | 15:27 |
| mnaser | ttx: you can add your goal there :) | 15:27 |
| mnaser | er | 15:27 |
| mnaser | goal discussion there | 15:27 |
| gmann | and if we need discussions for U cycle goal also then yes we can have 2 sessions | 15:27 |
| dhellmann | we should definitely start U now, but given the amount of time we have I suspect we won't have finished the conversation | 15:28 |
| dhellmann | right | 15:28 |
| gmann | yeah | 15:28 |
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| fungi | i'm hoping the v cycle name is a slam-dunk to make up for u dragging out so long | 15:31 |
| gmann | I can initiate the ML with U cycle goal etherpad to collect the ideas, if it is ok ? | 15:31 |
| mnaser | maybe i havent had enough coffee today | 15:31 |
| mnaser | wait | 15:32 |
| mnaser | nevermind, i forgot the letter t existed | 15:32 |
| mnaser | gmann: yes, i say go for it | 15:32 |
| gmann | ok. | 15:33 |
| mnaser | is there any discussion/progress about the release name? | 15:33 |
| fungi | i haven't heard anything else from tonyb this week on it | 15:36 |
| mnaser | is there anyone else that can help tonyb in the process? | 15:37 |
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| fungi | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Naming/U_Proposals says "We will accept nominations until July 21st 2019 (UTC)." | 15:37 |
| mnaser | maybe we need to gather some help for them | 15:37 |
| fungi | https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/release-naming.html indicates that we'll run a poll to vote on the release names from 2019-07-29 to 2019-08-05 | 15:38 |
| mnaser | so technically we're a few days behind at this point | 15:39 |
| ttx | Re: documentation on running a successful Forum session... do we want to do somethign about that? | 15:40 |
| ttx | OSF staff will be happy to send whatever doc to the selected moderators | 15:40 |
| ttx | but I feel like we should etherpad the content | 15:40 |
| mnaser | hear me out -- but i think parties interested in helping out with that -- it might be productive to get on a call/$some_conference_tool to talk through it and work on it collobratively in an etherpad? | 15:41 |
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| dhellmann | it seems fine to me to let the volunteers figure out how best to coordinate | 15:43 |
| dhellmann | have we really never written down any advice on this before? I feel like we must have at some point | 15:43 |
| mnaser | i dont know, maybe osf staff might have something? | 15:44 |
| dhellmann | there's a start in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum | 15:44 |
| dhellmann | I guess the intent is to expand on that | 15:45 |
| ttx | there were blog articles | 15:45 |
| ttx | not content meant specifically for session moderators | 15:45 |
| ttx | there was also a Forum 101 | 15:45 |
| mnaser | that's actually pretty much on par with what i'd think we should write up | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | was our action item to provide more guidance to folks running the sessions? | 15:46 |
| ttx | Also teh famous video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4cDyM2s2bc | 15:46 |
| dhellmann | ah, yeah | 15:46 |
| ttx | with my insane video skills on display | 15:46 |
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| ttx | Also https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-forum-101 | 15:47 |
| gmann | i remember some etherpad or blog or ML from ttx on that long back which was very helpful but do not have link now | 15:47 |
| dhellmann | https://superuser.openstack.org/articles/tips-openstack-forum/ has tips for attendees | 15:47 |
| mnaser | i guess we already have plenty of content, but spread out all over the place | 15:48 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 15:48 |
| ttx | I can help with the content, but would probably parrot what I always said. Fresh eyes could be useful | 15:48 |
| * dhellmann nods | 15:48 | |
| ttx | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-101 | 15:48 |
| ttx | those -forum-101 etherpads are all copies but with slightly different content | 15:49 |
| ttx | as people bring up new issues | 15:49 |
| dhellmann | yeah, it looks like we just need 1-2 people with time to pull that content together into a patch to the project team guide (or whatever) | 15:49 |
| mnaser | ^ any volunteers? | 15:51 |
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| dhellmann | sorry, I'm going to have a pretty busy few weeks in front of me because of product deadlines | 15:56 |
| mnaser | maybe we can ask on the mailing list to get better reach | 16:00 |
| * mnaser had hoped to get more people to take a bite of work we said we'd do | 16:01 | |
| dhellmann | I get the impression we don't have very many tc-members around right now, so maybe the mailing list would reach more of them | 16:01 |
| fungi | yeah, sorry, in more simultaneous discussions than my backup internet access can manage | 16:02 |
| mnaser | i guess i can send an email about it | 16:04 |
| mnaser | well, i sent an email to the ml | 16:10 |
| fungi | thanks mnaser! sorry i couldn't be more help in office hours today | 16:18 |
| mnaser | no worries | 16:20 |
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| evrardjp | mmm If nobody volunteers, I guess could take that in about two weeks, when I will be on holidays. | 16:30 |
| evrardjp | let's still ask on the ML should we want to have a faster patch | 16:31 |
| ttx | ok I'll post something (tomorrow) | 16:32 |
| ttx | re: Forum committee and forum doc | 16:32 |
| ttx | oh, mnaser beat me to it | 16:34 |
| ttx | will post around forum doc then | 16:35 |
| mnaser | btw | 16:38 |
| mnaser | i emailed smoser regarding cirros with no response | 16:38 |
| mnaser | yep | 16:39 |
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| tonyb[m] | If I don't make substantial forward progress on the name thing this weekend I'll call for help | 19:47 |
| fungi | thanks tonyb[m]! i'm also happy to review whatever scheduling changes you push up this weekend | 19:50 |
| fungi | or whatever else is helpful to you | 19:51 |
| tonyb[m] | fungi: Thanks, as always, for the support | 19:51 |
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