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| ttx | fungi: IIRC we usually end up +1ing the election repo patch proposing the officials | 08:34 |
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| ttx | (office hour in progress btw) | 09:37 |
| ttx | Looks like we have at least 3 people not going for reelection this round (Julia, Doug and Jeremy) for 6 available seats. Lots of opportunity to join! Feel free to ask me if you have any question on the TC member role. | 09:41 |
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| evrardjp | I have questions | 10:02 |
| evrardjp | :) | 10:02 |
| evrardjp | I had to do this | 10:02 |
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| TheJulia | Well, we have answers, but when() is variable at times | 12:56 |
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| smcginnis | It looks like with the number of folks not running again, it could be an opportune time to reduce the number of TC seats without making it too restrictive for new members. | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | Just saying. | 15:12 |
| evrardjp | It's not a bad idea smcginnis | 15:13 |
| fungi | i think it's roughly the same number we've had not run again in previous rounds | 15:13 |
| evrardjp | isn't it a little more? | 15:13 |
| evrardjp | I seem to recall the rotation was 2/3? | 15:13 |
| fungi | we run an election for roughly 1/2 the seats each time, and roughly 1/2 of the members vacating those seats opt not to run again | 15:14 |
| fungi | that seems to have been the pattern for at least a few cycles | 15:14 |
| fungi | we're electing 6 of 13 seats this round, and 3 of the tc members who are holding those seats have said they won't run for reelection | 15:15 |
| fungi | granted, the nomination period hasn't even started yet (8.5 hours to go before it does), so no idea who else might choose not to run for reelection this time | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | Isn't it more than 3? Oh, ttx is next election period. | 15:16 |
| mugsie | I would see what the turnout is like this round, I don't want to surprise people with a "here are only X seats" hours before the nominations open | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, makes sense. | 15:17 |
| zaneb | now 4 | 15:26 |
| ttx | yeah I proposed next election round since this one is already upon us... but we could do 5 seats this time, and 5 seats next time, and 4 seats after... and end up at 9 | 15:28 |
| ttx | zaneb: note that an even number is not that much of a problem | 15:29 |
| zaneb | true, we rarely get all 13 of us voting anyway | 15:29 |
| zaneb | which is arguably part of the problem | 15:30 |
| smcginnis | Chair breaks deadlocks? Not that I can recall every having that split of an issue. | 15:30 |
| mugsie | yeah, we push for lazy consensu vs majority anyway, so I don't see it as a huge issue | 15:30 |
| fungi | meh, not having everyone vote isn't a huge problem either, as long as we have enough for quorum | 15:30 |
| fungi | if i don't find time to vote on something it's because i trust the opinions of other tc members on it | 15:31 |
| zaneb | depends on the review. for 95% of stuff I agree it doesn't matter | 15:31 |
| fungi | sure, i think on the ones where it does we manage to get more than quorum | 15:32 |
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| fungi | can we get one more tc member to weigh in on ianychoi's election official status at https://review.opendev.org/678364 so there's quorum? | 16:43 |
| fungi | having him approved in the next 7 hours so he can help process candidacies would be awesome | 16:43 |
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| jroll | ah yes, can do | 16:51 |
| jroll | fungi: done | 16:51 |
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| fungi | tc-members: what's your opinion on having gerrit changes for the openstack/election repository reported in here? | 18:22 |
| TheJulia | Seems... logical | 18:23 |
| fungi | it's fairly low-volume except right around election time | 18:23 |
| zaneb | I'm ok with it | 18:23 |
| jroll | I welcome openstackgerrit spam | 18:23 |
| fungi | more so that the tc has immediate insight into what things are merging to that repository even if they're not subscribing to it in gerrit | 18:23 |
| fungi | given the election officials are delegated by the tc | 18:24 |
| fungi | happy either way, but i'm similarly discussing with the election officials having that information reported in #openstack-election so can add both with a single change if desired | 18:24 |
| TheJulia | Even if subscribed, if people have lots of repos or get lots of mail... it is super easy for things to get lost in the abyss of mailboxes | 18:41 |
| fungi | oh, sure, which is why i brought it up ;) | 18:42 |
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| fungi | careful, lest the abyss look back | 19:00 |
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