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| evrardjp | gmann: according to my last run a few weren't in "YES" when running the check-review-status | 09:21 |
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| evrardjp | I plan to have all of that done in Monday, as I timeboxed it for that time :) | 09:21 |
| evrardjp | I like your idea assigning dynamically and I also like more of us sharing the duties. | 09:22 |
| evrardjp | :) | 09:22 |
| evrardjp | I guess I will need to check what we can do, with the foundation bylaws. | 09:23 |
| evrardjp | *if that's the right term* | 09:23 |
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| fungi | when you're ready to check, it's really all in https://www.openstack.org/legal/technical-committee-member-policy/ | 12:27 |
| fungi | but there's basically nothing in there that says who has to do the work, only who is responsible for it getting done | 12:28 |
| fungi | pretty much everything can be delegated to non-tc-members | 12:28 |
| fungi | at least according to my interpretation | 12:28 |
| fungi | of course you'll also want to make sure that any delegation doesn't run afoul of requirements laid out in https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/charter.html but the tc can vote to change anything in that at least | 12:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack/election master: Update default ref name for Gitea https://review.opendev.org/683789 | 14:25 |
| gmann | evrardjp: thanks. Monday sounds good. As PTL has to do summit+PTG and release planning etc, we should merge them and complete the PTL assignments. | 14:45 |
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| evrardjp | yup it's just that I am not in front of the work during the weekend :) | 14:51 |
| gmann | yeah, bylaw does not say anything about vice chair or something. that is more of sharing and helping person to Chair responsibilities which we all can do for Chair. | 14:51 |
| gmann | evrardjp: you should not :) I am just waiting for my flight so started the IRC :) | 14:52 |
| evrardjp | haha | 14:53 |
| evrardjp | bad habit! :) | 14:53 |
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| gmann | yeah, i think changing my japanese style working will take time... | 14:54 |
| fungi | yep, only paragraphs 3.a.ii and 3.b in the technical committee member policy appendix of the osf bylaws mention a chair for the tc at all: serving as a point of contact for requests to become an "extra atc" and for providing a list of atcs to the board of directors if they ask for one | 14:55 |
| evrardjp | I was checking that fungi indeed :) | 14:56 |
| evrardjp | 4.13.d particularily | 14:56 |
| evrardjp | but there is no mention of vice-chair particularily, that seems to be more our organisation | 14:57 |
| gmann | yeah | 14:57 |
| fungi | ahh, yep, bylaws paragraph 4.13.b.ii mentions the board notifying the tc chair about court orders and injunctions involving the software | 14:59 |
| fungi | and 4.13.c says the board approves the nominated tc chair unless they have a good reason not to do so | 15:00 |
| evrardjp | week-end reading for you too fungi? ;) | 15:01 |
| evrardjp | it's always good to have a refresh of the bylaws in my head. I remembered the chair was listed, not just in which fashion | 15:02 |
| evrardjp | so it looks like we could go ahead with gmann proposition ! :) | 15:02 |
| fungi | 4.13.d mentions that a majority vote of the tc can remove the chair under certain conditions like failure to attend more than half the tc meetings in two years, breach of code of conduct, being declared legally insane, or conviction of a major crime | 15:02 |
| evrardjp | fungi: I would like to inform you that my sense of humor is not insanity | 15:03 |
| fungi | and the board can also request that the tc do so | 15:03 |
| fungi | and also the board can vote to do it if the tc does not | 15:03 |
| evrardjp | fungi: though I haven't seen that in the text I read | 15:03 |
| evrardjp | are you checking https://www.openstack.org/legal/bylaws-of-the-openstack-foundation/ ? | 15:04 |
| fungi | paragraph 4.13.d | 15:04 |
| fungi | yep | 15:04 |
| fungi | i'm summarizing the legalese there | 15:05 |
| fungi | anyway, those are all the references to a tc chair that i can find | 15:05 |
| evrardjp | ok cool, thanks! | 15:05 |
| evrardjp | that's what I thought too :) | 15:05 |
| fungi | so the tc does need to select a chair, and that chair needs to serve as a point of contact in at least a minimum capacity involving requests to be an extra atc, requests for a list of atcs and to receive notification of court orders about the software | 15:07 |
| fungi | anything beyond that is up to the tc to decide, but it's bound by any policies it records in its own charter unless it votes to change that charter | 15:08 |
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| smcginnis | Having a vice chair was a very recent addition and totally an informal decision by the TC. | 21:46 |
| smcginnis | I like the idea of just delegating to someone else as needed. Less formality is better. | 21:46 |
| fungi | but the most important thing you're likely to delegate is a clear fallback point of contact in case of your absence... and when publishing that contact information so it's easily found, what would you call them if not a vice-chair? | 21:56 |
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