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| gmann | Office hour time.. | 01:00 |
| gmann | o/ | 01:00 |
| zaneb | o/ | 01:01 |
| clarkb | Its been a while since I lurked here for an office hour but I wanted to point out https://review.opendev.org/#/c/683852/ Basically its a spec to stop running one of our old large fileservers (as it didn't scale and we've got logs in swift now). I think we're hoping that we can get some help with that once we've sorted the details out | 01:02 |
| clarkb | feel free to review it before it gets merged too :) | 01:02 |
| fungi | help with the job updates would be appreciated, but also the work raises some deeper questions about ways we might be able to streamline the hosting of all those disparate sites by trying to combine some or host some under subtrees of a neutral opendev.org subdomain | 01:04 |
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| gmann | can you explain it little bit more. you mean things on this needs more de-centralized approach ? | 01:13 |
| fungi | there were a few challenges early on in openstack which led to a proliferation of different sites hosting similar sorts of static content (docs.openstack.org, tarballs.openstack.org, releases.openstack.org, governance.openstack.org, security.openstack.org...) | 01:15 |
| fungi | managing all those as separate vhosts rather than having all that content in a common tree creates a fair amount of extra work | 01:16 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya though the main motivation here is to get off of the massive fileserver with 14 cinder volumes lvm'd together. Gives us an opportunity to consider how to host things more sustainably | 01:16 |
| fungi | but on top of that, the fact that the osf also uses the openstack.org domain makes it hard for the opendev sysadmins to use the same dns and ssl cert management with sites in that domain as sites in domains fully under their control | 01:17 |
| clarkb | "massive" mtreinish has more disk under his pillow | 01:17 |
| gmann | :) | 01:18 |
| gmann | ok. wat will be the changes from usage point of view ? i mean url will be same right | 01:18 |
| fungi | so yeah, moving things off the existing fragile server and into more robust storage is the main thrust, but it presents some opportunities to make things less confusing for users as well as reduce the effort on the sysadmins running it all | 01:19 |
| fungi | the plan presented there doesn't change the urls for most things, just the jobs used to do the publishing | 01:19 |
| fungi | the logs.openstack.org url has basically already changed, that's probably the most outward-facing modification | 01:20 |
| fungi | we're hoping to 1. get input on the plan presented there, and 2. see if there are some folks willing to help with the publication job updates, but also 3. maybe think about ways we could compromise on simplifying all this current site sprawl | 01:22 |
| gmann | ok. | 01:24 |
| gmann | l120 in that sepc, qa doc site - https://docs.openstack.org/developer/qa | 01:24 |
| gmann | we had plan to have a centralized QA site (i think we talked about it in last PTG also) but that is not done yet | 01:25 |
| clarkb | gmann: that information would probably be useful as a comment on the spec | 01:26 |
| clarkb | so that we know it is planned work and not work that has happened and then broken | 01:26 |
| gmann | sure. i will add. | 01:26 |
| gmann | and i can help on the few things. when you are the plan for that ? | 01:26 |
| gmann | s/are/have | 01:27 |
| fungi | i think we were hoping to merge the spec before the summit/ptg and then have some discussions there | 01:27 |
| clarkb | yup | 01:27 |
| gmann | ok. | 01:27 |
| clarkb | and then work through this early in the U cycle when we can make changes to things like the election site and relases and so on with less stress on people :) | 01:27 |
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| asettle | o/ | 08:04 |
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| asettle | Btw ttx - I did a little refresher here: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/683432/ | 08:27 |
| asettle | I'm not sure if the subject/title aligns a little better with what you were thinking? | 08:27 |
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| ttx | looking | 08:32 |
| ttx | subject and title are fine... At this point I was just objecting to the file name (joining-tc.rst) :) | 08:33 |
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| asettle | ttx, ah! Well, either way, I admit I kinda like this better | 09:33 |
| asettle | :D | 09:33 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: fwiw, while I have much more capacity, the most drives attached to any one of my storage servers is only 13 at this point (it will likely go past 14 in the near future though) | 12:32 |
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| mnaser | rough times ahead for OSA.. | 17:43 |
| mnaser | i think we're down to 4 active cores | 17:44 |
| mnaser | me + 2 people (from vexxhost) and one person from bbc | 17:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Corey Bryant proposed openstack/governance master: New charm and interface for placement split https://review.opendev.org/686253 | 19:08 |
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| zaneb | are there more than 3 projects that *aren't* in that boat though? | 19:10 |
| mnaser | i'm sure there's many other ones, but i think it's been particularily hard on us because we have a lot of consumers that are not necessarily developers | 19:15 |
| mnaser | and the volume of reviews needed is still a lot | 19:16 |
| evrardjp | Wouldn't those ppl see an opportunity to step up? | 19:20 |
| njohnston | or perhaps they could be mentored/coached to step up? | 19:22 |
| njohnston | mlavalle started a mentoring program for prospective neutron cores where he scouted prospects and set up 1-on-1 mentoring relationships with existing cores | 19:23 |
| njohnston | as an example | 19:23 |
| mnaser | it's not as straightforward :) | 19:28 |
| mnaser | and a lot of folks have zero interest other than "landing the thing they want" | 19:28 |
| njohnston | I call it "the shoemaker and the elves" syndrome. People assume that the magical upstream elves will just mysteriously take care of things. | 19:30 |
| mnaser | and unfortunately, they end up doing it | 19:30 |
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