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| mnaser | imagine if you actually try to do "the right thing(tm)" and get these responses -- https://twitter.com/juldanjou/status/1196804580375486464 | 01:35 |
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| mnaser | pretty disappointing. | 01:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Follow up changes for drop-py27 goal review comments https://review.opendev.org/694161 | 07:44 |
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| evrardjp | mnaser: yeah that looks terrible. | 07:47 |
| evrardjp | mnaser: I agree. It's basically cold hearted. | 07:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance-sigs master: Create PowerVMStackers SIG https://review.opendev.org/689119 | 07:49 |
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| asettle | o/ | 08:29 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 08:30 |
| ricolin | o/ | 08:31 |
| evrardjp | folks, I will fast track the move the documentation as a SIG. It was close to merging until rebase had to happen, and there was no comment on the difference since the patch rebasing happened. IMHO there is no reason to hold this. | 08:45 |
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| asettle | THank you evrardjp :) | 08:51 |
| asettle | stephenfin, at last! | 08:51 |
| stephenfin | \o/ | 08:51 |
| evrardjp | haha, glad that makes you happy, that's what matters the most! :) | 08:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Turn PowerVMStackers team into a SIG https://review.opendev.org/680438 | 08:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Finalise the transition of the docs team to a SIG https://review.opendev.org/657142 | 08:57 |
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| iurygregory | gmann, you around? | 10:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Use "service" for consistency in team listing https://review.opendev.org/695173 | 11:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Provide short description for cryptic team names https://review.opendev.org/695174 | 11:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Clarify "liaisons" in project team pages https://review.opendev.org/695175 | 11:26 |
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| jungleboyj | o/ | 13:02 |
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| cloudnull | o/ | 13:10 |
| jungleboyj | Quiet this morning. | 13:26 |
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| cloudnull | seems so :D | 13:43 |
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| njohnston_ | o/ | 14:22 |
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| mnaser | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-November/010972.html | 15:27 |
| mnaser | this doesn't sound right | 15:28 |
| mnaser | seems like putting time into integrating properly with monasca would be better than implenenting something like mongodb | 15:29 |
| mnaser | the argument of "it works for our organization so we're changing the direction" seems. eh. | 15:29 |
| ttx | yeah... it's one thing to maintain the hack you have in production... it's another to push it into the project | 15:30 |
| mnaser | right, ovh comments seem to be like "yea it works, we hate it" | 15:30 |
| mnaser | seems like most comments say "we should probably not do this" | 15:31 |
| ttx | that said, nobody is really signing up to do it properly, so it's hard to put the hammer down in absence of a real alternate solution | 15:32 |
| fungi | it seems like the main proponent was running an older ceilo deployment and never migrated to gnocchi when mongo got dropped, so now wants to take the current gnocchi situation as an opportunity to roll upstream back to what they're using. but yes, unless someone else volunteers to do something else... | 15:33 |
| ttx | if some group proposed a sane alternative and the PTL rejected it saying "we prefer to maintain our production hack" that would be something else | 15:33 |
| mnaser | my struggle is there is actually folks who will be doing work | 15:33 |
| mnaser | but instead the work will be done to what works best for them, rather than what is best for openstack. | 15:33 |
| fungi | if they're the only user of ceilo who can afford to spend time maintaining it, then maybe that's just nature taking its course | 15:34 |
| ttx | I was waiting to see if anyone would actually sign up to do work | 15:34 |
| ttx | It's one of those cases where dramatic fork / feature-branch could help | 15:34 |
| mnaser | fungi: that's a fair point too. | 15:35 |
| mnaser | but wouldn't that kinda end up making it a very specific use case project at that stage ;\ | 15:35 |
| fungi | i was hoping someone would step up to help revive gnocchi (or at least start a "notcchi" fork) | 15:37 |
| fungi | as it seems like the other suggestions involve some regression in capability | 15:37 |
| ttx | The trick is nobody is really satisfied with the state in this corner of openstack, so we are discussing stopgap measures at the same time we are discussing crazy-idea level changes | 15:39 |
| fungi | agreed, maybe it's an opportunity for a major overhaul | 15:40 |
| gmann | o/ | 15:48 |
| gmann | iurygregory: hi | 15:48 |
| iurygregory | gmann, hey quick question about the legacy jobs on ironic you submitted patches to move to py3 | 15:49 |
| gmann | iurygregory: yeah | 15:49 |
| iurygregory | gmann, https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:legacy_py3+(status:open+OR+status:merged) this patches doesn't cover the change? | 15:49 |
| gmann | only grenade jobs for now as devstack is going to be default to py3 and grenade would not work py2->py3 | 15:50 |
| iurygregory | they are for grenade jobs | 15:50 |
| gmann | iurygregory: oh, it should, not sure why i did not got those on master update. let me check | 15:51 |
| iurygregory | gmann, no worries =) | 15:51 |
| iurygregory | maybe I've add the variable in the wrong place =X | 15:52 |
| gmann | iurygregory: ironic-inspector is all good and i have verified that it is working on py3 so i abandon my patch. | 15:58 |
| iurygregory | gmann, ack o/ | 15:58 |
| gmann | iurygregory: ironic grenade is still running on py2 even after your patch. let me debug that whats happening there | 15:58 |
| iurygregory | gmann, ok o/ | 15:59 |
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| gmann | iurygregory: ironic grenade is also good, i might have seen the old result (need to finish my coffee first :)). | 16:06 |
| gmann | thanks for syncup | 16:06 |
| iurygregory | gmann, yw, also I'm pushing the patches on ironic side for drop-py27-support o/ | 16:06 |
| gmann | iurygregory: i saw that. thanks for that. sooner we drop the py2 is best to avoid break due to cross projects dependency on CI/CD. | 16:07 |
| gmann | iurygregory: can you add topic 'drop-py27-support' to those | 16:07 |
| iurygregory | gmann, I'm using this topic =) | 16:08 |
| gmann | +1 | 16:08 |
| iurygregory | if you spot something that is also required to change let me know o/ | 16:08 |
| gmann | only thing we need to care is to merge them in the order of consumer->provider. ironic repos might have such dependency of jobs etc. | 16:09 |
| gmann | sure, i will review those today. | 16:09 |
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| gmann | tc-members: as we discussed in PTG, can we do the quick/fast/immediate review on ussuri goal proposal so that it will help diablo_rojo_phon to update the comment once. We already agreed to make it ussuri goal, only thing is to finalized the implementation details - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/691737/ | 17:44 |
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