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| openstackgerrit | Kendall Nelson proposed openstack/governance master: Add goal for project specific PTL and contributor guides https://review.opendev.org/691737 | 01:13 |
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| ttx | o/ | 09:00 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 09:03 |
| asettle | o/ | 09:04 |
| ttx | Reminder that most FOSDEM devrooms have their CFP deadline this week, if you want to go and see evrardjp in his natural environment | 09:05 |
| ttx | I submitted three talks, so hopefully I should be there :) | 09:05 |
| evrardjp | :) | 09:06 |
| evrardjp | that's good news! | 09:06 |
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| mugsie | oh, I should do that | 10:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Provide short description for cryptic team names https://review.opendev.org/695174 | 10:53 |
| mugsie | ttx: have you put something into the Community DevRoom? | 10:57 |
| ttx | no. | 10:58 |
| ttx | I'm in Containers, Continuous Integration and Main tracks | 10:58 |
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| mugsie | feels like something we should do ... evrardjp - up for a talk for https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2019q4/002893.html ? | 11:56 |
| mugsie | also - is supporting https://savedotorg.org/ something we should (or can look at) supporting as a community? | 12:17 |
| mugsie | or should I be chucking this on the Board meeting on the 10th? | 12:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Provide short description for cryptic team names https://review.opendev.org/695174 | 12:57 |
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| evrardjp | mugsie: wow | 13:42 |
| evrardjp | I didn't know this | 13:42 |
| evrardjp | mugsie: you should indeed | 13:42 |
| evrardjp | mugsie: for the community devroom it's a good idea. Though I am not too fond of being presenter there alone, I think I should probably attend those sessions. | 13:45 |
| evrardjp | If there is someone that want to do this, I would happily tag along | 13:46 |
| evrardjp | anyway, I strongly encourage people to be presenter there :) | 13:48 |
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| mugsie | thinking back, I think I saw diablo_rojo_phon talking about doing one on twitter - we should make sure we don't overlap :) | 14:26 |
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| cloudnull | o/ | 14:50 |
| evrardjp | mugsie: I pinged her already, let's see what she intends to do | 14:52 |
| evrardjp | Can anyone tell zaneb that his bouncer seem dead? | 15:01 |
| evrardjp | irc bouncer I mean | 15:01 |
| * mugsie was wondering if evrardjp was talking about me, rico or bnemec | 15:03 | |
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| evrardjp | have you merged? | 15:05 |
| evrardjp | or is my brain farting. Cause I had to contact all of you for different reasons, if you merge into one person, I could just dump my ideas and question into a single thread, and see what happens | 15:06 |
| bnemec | lol | 15:06 |
| evrardjp | :) | 15:07 |
| bnemec | He's showing offline on slack too, so it may not just be his bouncer. | 15:09 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | mugsie: evrardjp I have not submitted anything yet, but am happy to help | 15:35 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | While I don't enjoy talking....I'm growing numb to it lol. | 15:36 |
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| mugsie | i think there is a couple of talks in that room we could do - the gerrit + zuul pitch (for open source dev tooling), leasons learned in growing openstack, and I am sure others | 15:58 |
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| ttx | mugsie: fungi is planning on attending too and was looking up the CFP | 16:02 |
| ttx | My dance card is full so I'd rather not file more. I'd be in trouble if they accepted all 3 of my proposals :) | 16:02 |
| mugsie | cool - if he is interested in doing the zuul + gerrit pitch, he is infitely more quallified than I am :D | 16:02 |
| fungi | sounded like ttx was already proposing a zuul session in the ci track? | 16:04 |
| fungi | but sure, you can never have too much zuul ;) | 16:04 |
| ttx | And Matthieu was doing a Zuul one too | 16:05 |
| fungi | oh, mhu would give a great zuul talk, yeah | 16:05 |
| ttx | It's worth noting that devrooms are opaque to each other, so we can have zuul all over | 16:05 |
| mugsie | yeah - it was the "Bringing free software to the GitHub generation" section of the community devroom that cought my eye | 16:06 |
| fungi | i was also noodling on doing systems administration as code (covering open systems operation via code review and continuous deployment), and vulnerability management in an open software collaboration (rehash of a talk i have at oscon a while back) | 16:06 |
| mugsie | ++ would (try) and attend both :) | 16:07 |
| mugsie | s/and/to/ | 16:07 |
| fungi | they could be terrible, depending on how much belgian wine i end up drinking the night before | 16:08 |
| * fungi jokes of course, belgium has no wine ;) | 16:08 | |
| mugsie | phew | 16:08 |
| mugsie | it is nearly as bad as french wine | 16:08 |
| * mugsie ducks to avoid the bottles he assumes are about to be thrown | 16:09 | |
| * evrardjp smiles a lot while reading this backlog | 16:09 | |
| mugsie | but ... delerium is a bad idea on friday night - especially on an empty stomach | 16:09 |
| jroll | fungi: gueuze is more like wine than beer anyway :) | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | jroll: I thought you were a friend | 16:11 |
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| fungi | jroll: that doesn't sound like a glowing endorsement | 16:11 |
| jroll | hrm, maybe I should rephrase | 16:12 |
| evrardjp | hahaha | 16:12 |
| evrardjp | fungi: did you try anything like the "Abbayse de Saint Bon-Chien" from switzerland? | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | Abbaye* | 16:13 |
| fungi | no, sounds frightening | 16:13 |
| jroll | I have no rephrasing, but let's just say gueuze is the best of all beers | 16:13 |
| jroll | s/is/can be/ | 16:13 |
| fungi | evrardjp: is that a beverage you're expected to survive? | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | fungi: yeah it's not that alcoholic -- I think around 11 degrees | 16:14 |
| mugsie | https://untappd.com/b/brasserie-des-franches-montagnes-bfm-abbaye-de-saint-bon-chien/241957 | 16:14 |
| mugsie | looks interesting | 16:14 |
| evrardjp | it is very good | 16:14 |
| evrardjp | it's a different kind of sour -- I like it because it's closer to the wine you were talking about! :p | 16:15 |
| jroll | yum, that sounds great | 16:15 |
| evrardjp | Glad I did a good PSA | 16:15 |
| mugsie | the danger in BRU is the dellirum - it drinks like water, costs 2e for a glass, but is 9% or something mad | 16:15 |
| fungi | interesting. my unqualified palate so far has experienced swiss, german and italian wines which all taste like syrup | 16:16 |
| evrardjp | fungi: straw wine/yellow wine? | 16:16 |
| * jroll is surprised evrardjp isn't giving a PSA about cantillon, drie fontenein, etc :) | 16:16 | |
| evrardjp | haha that's really Brussels :) | 16:17 |
| evrardjp | if I start talking belgian beers, it's gonna last forever, and mugsie will not agree anyway | 16:17 |
| evrardjp | hahaha | 16:17 |
| jroll | hehe | 16:17 |
| jroll | I usually can't yell over mugsie, but in this case I would do it | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | Though I agree on the delirium analysis of his | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | you can just sed -i s/delirium beer/many belgian beers/ | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | :) | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | anyway, one more reason to come to FOSDEM! | 16:18 |
| jroll | heh, I prefer belgian table beers, still delicious but less dangerous :) | 16:19 |
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| fungi | ahh, yes, so we also get the delirium tremens here in the states, i agree it's dangerville | 16:20 |
| ttx | evrardjp: are you saying that Switzerland makes the best beers? | 16:30 |
| evrardjp | ttx: yeah, and belgium only makes stella. Basically. | 16:58 |
| evrardjp | haha | 16:58 |
| mugsie | I didn't want to say anything .... butyeah | 16:58 |
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| evrardjp | jroll: Piedboeuf? | 16:59 |
| jroll | evrardjp: I don't know it, I was thinking like 4% ABV saisons and the like | 17:02 |
| evrardjp | yeah that sounds like the in strong range of the table beers | 17:02 |
| jroll | lower is good too :) | 17:03 |
| evrardjp | I didn't drink that for ages! | 17:03 |
| evrardjp | reminds me the canteen at school | 17:03 |
| evrardjp | :) | 17:03 |
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| evrardjp | mugsie: diablo_rojo_phon should we prepare something on the "Lessons learned on growing OpenStack" ? We should start by having a good name and abstract, then we can iterate :p | 17:24 |
| fungi | "open source adulthood: what we learned about growing up" | 17:27 |
| evrardjp | that sounds awesome | 17:27 |
| evrardjp | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/learnings-from-openstack-community-talk for those interested | 17:28 |
| evrardjp | (this is a brainstorm etherpad) | 17:28 |
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| zaneb | let's see if my network connection is more stable today... | 20:10 |
| zaneb | evrardjp: I don't use an IRC bouncer fwiw | 20:12 |
| zaneb | is that one of those things people do in the cloud? | 20:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/governance master: Document the chair's prerogative to continue debate https://review.opendev.org/696178 | 20:39 |
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| fungi | zaneb: i think "irc bouncer" is something people assume when they are somewhere that persistent internet connections are not usual | 22:37 |
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| fungi | i don't have a stable internet connection, but i have access to a cloud provider who does, so i just run my irc client there and attach to/detach from it as needed | 22:37 |
| zaneb | to me IRC is for synchronous communication | 22:40 |
| zaneb | if I'm not online, you won't be having a synchronous conversation with me | 22:40 |
| zaneb | maybe I'll check scrollback, maybe I won't | 22:40 |
| fungi | i'm not even sure i'm having synchronous conversation with you now | 22:40 |
| zaneb | the people who designed Slack do not understand this and that is why I hate it with a burning passion | 22:41 |
| fungi | i'm sure we can come up with more reasons for you to have slack if you have a few moments | 22:42 |
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| fungi | but probably best to just leave it at nominal levels of hate | 22:42 |
| zaneb | true, I have many other complaints about it | 22:42 |
| zaneb | but anyway, I don't run a bouncer so as to keep IRC not-Slack | 22:43 |
| zaneb | if my laptop weren't tied to a stable internet connection 90% of the time I could see myself making a different choice though | 22:44 |
| fungi | yeah, i basically live in a tmux session on a cloud server and keep all my irc, mutt, gertty, et cetera state there, then opportunistically multi-attach to it via mosh from lots of client systems | 22:50 |
| fungi | so in my case it's not that i may or may not have a computer connected, it's that i may or may not be at the keyboard of a connected computer at any given time | 22:51 |
| smcginnis | That's what has worked best for me. | 22:51 |
| fungi | yep, at this point in time i have four client systems connected to and possibly displaying this session. but in a moment i'm going to walk away from this keyboard and possibly not look at any of them for the next hour | 22:53 |
| fungi | feel free to "ping" me all you like, i won't know until the next time i decide to saddle up to a terminal and reauthorise my input/output peripherals | 22:53 |
| smcginnis | The Sun Ray should make a comeback. :D | 22:54 |
| fungi | i spent days trying to work out how to get a working os onto a sunray | 22:56 |
| fungi | those things were very squarely designed to only work with sunos/solaris terminal servers | 22:56 |
| fungi | many beers ago i took a job with a data center startup who acquired one facility out of bankruptcy which had a storeroom full of sunrays still in boxes | 22:57 |
| fungi | and all their solaris terminal server licenses were expired | 22:58 |
| fungi | those things were basically ballast | 22:58 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, at that point. | 22:59 |
| fungi | the built-in smartcard readers were an interesting feature though | 22:59 |
| smcginnis | Remember when Target sent these out to everyone that had a Target card? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Target-Smart-Card-Reader-GCR432-USB-Brand-New-/122599586237 | 23:04 |
| smcginnis | Never did use the thing. | 23:04 |
| fungi | i never intentionally gave target enough information on me to qualify for a target card, but that's a fun bit of history | 23:05 |
| smcginnis | Way too ahead of the time and (I think) not very well thought out. | 23:06 |
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| fungi | i love that amazon is suggesting (for me at least) that it's similar to their sponsored ad for a llama table lamp | 23:07 |
| smcginnis | Me too. I think I would much rather have the llama lamp than the card reader, to be fair. :D | 23:07 |
| fungi | the sheer randomness that comes from opening every hyperlink in an anonymous cookie-free tab container | 23:08 |
| fungi | "you must be new to the internet... here, have a llama lamp" | 23:08 |
| smcginnis | Hah | 23:09 |
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