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| ricolin | o. | 09:02 |
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| ttx | fwiw re: neutron-fwaas I asked (again) for any data on the user survey pointing to potential users | 09:27 |
| ttx | but I just think it's not as useful as it once was | 09:28 |
| evrardjp | I see | 09:33 |
| evrardjp | I suppose the last call for maintainers might mean the neutron team will deprecate this | 09:34 |
| slaweq | evrardjp: hi, yes, we discussed that in Shanghai on forum session | 09:36 |
| ttx | Not might, will | 09:36 |
| slaweq | and we want to mark neutron-fwaas as deprecated if there will be no maintainers for it | 09:36 |
| slaweq | and later move it out of stadium to be in x/ namespace | 09:37 |
| evrardjp | ttx: yeah that's what I meant :) | 09:40 |
| evrardjp | slaweq: it makes sense | 09:40 |
| ttx | We have a OSF newsletter coming out this week. If you have any content re: OpenStack to publish please fill https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newsletter-openstack-news | 09:41 |
| evrardjp | if it doesn't scratch anyone's itch, it's most likely time to phase it out :p | 09:41 |
| ttx | tc-members: We have a OSF newsletter coming out this week. If you have any content re: OpenStack to publish please fill https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newsletter-openstack-news | 09:42 |
| slaweq | ttx: can this info about "neutron-fwaas maintainers needed" be added to such newsletter maybe? | 09:42 |
| ttx | evrardjp: how about mentioning final Ussuri goals ? | 09:43 |
| ttx | slaweq: we actually covered that in the previous one | 09:43 |
| ttx | iirc | 09:43 |
| slaweq | ahh, ok | 09:43 |
| slaweq | so thx ttx :) | 09:43 |
| slaweq | I didn't saw it probably | 09:43 |
| ttx | yes it was. | 09:44 |
| ttx | "The Neutron team will drop those modules from future official OpenStack releases if nothing changes by the ussuri-2 milestone, February 14." | 09:44 |
| slaweq | ok, thx a lot ttx | 09:45 |
| evrardjp | ttx: I was planning to write an email for the community during these hours, but I will be out of time, so if you give me more time, I can give you a full feedback on which you can cherry pick what you like :p | 09:49 |
| ttx | evrardjp: perfect | 09:49 |
| ttx | then I can reference your email in the snippet. Otherwise i can point to gmann's recent summary | 09:50 |
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| evrardjp | I meant for all the things, on which I am also pointing to gmann's summary : p | 10:04 |
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| jungleboyj | o/ | 13:56 |
| fungi | slaweq: remember that https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20190711-mandatory-repository-retirement.html says projects can't "move from openstack to the x namespace" they have to be retired in-place, but someone can fork a copy of them in the x namespace. otherwise we wind up with transparent redirects which don't make it obvious to consumers that the project is no longer part of openstack | 13:58 |
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| gmann | ttx: evrardjp ussuri goal are good to mention, this is latest email summary if you are looking for- http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-January/012019.html | 14:34 |
| evrardjp | gmann: it's already there in the etherpad I have with rico :) | 14:35 |
| evrardjp | but thanks for confirming :D | 14:36 |
| gmann | cool | 14:36 |
| * gmann back to stable branch broken testing. | 14:37 | |
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| zaneb | evrardjp: I believe we can merge smcginnis's review now if we so desire | 14:42 |
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| evrardjp | zaneb: correct it should be passed 14:39 utc | 14:58 |
| evrardjp | you are on fire zaneb! | 14:58 |
| slaweq | fungi: sure, thx for reminder but we will not move/delete neutron-fwaas in Ussuri cycle for sure :) | 15:06 |
| fungi | yep, just noting that referring to it as a "move" can be misleading. it would be retired. you would have the option of forking it somewhere, maybe in the x namespace or maybe somewhere else. or you could just let whoever wants to maintain it fork it when they're ready to do so | 15:07 |
| fungi | there's also little point in having the repository open for contribution but abandoned, so if there's nobody actually working on it then i'd say just retire it (when the time comes) and it can always be forked and resurrected somewhere later if interest in it arises | 15:09 |
| fungi | hosting source code for an out-of-date and broken service with no indication that it's defunct and abandoned just risks someone finding and trying to deploy it and then getting angry when they discover it's not been maintained in a very long time | 15:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Begin the 'W' release naming process https://review.opendev.org/702414 | 15:37 |
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| smcginnis | Drafting the naming kick off email now. | 15:47 |
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| evrardjp | thanks smcginnis | 16:19 |
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| ttx | Brace for impact | 17:50 |
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| fungi | yeah, i won't be surprised if there's even more blowback because the tc is "taking away the community's vote" | 17:52 |
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| smcginnis | We'll see how much folks care about that. | 19:09 |
| smcginnis | I've been surprised by how many aren't yet aware that the event structure is changing. | 19:09 |
| fungi | most of the people who care probably aren't reading openstack-discuss | 19:12 |
| smcginnis | That is likely accurate. | 19:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Felipe Reyes proposed openstack/governance master: Add charm-interface-keystone-notifications project https://review.opendev.org/703692 | 20:43 |
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