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| smcginnis | tc-members: Time sensitive info in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/759888/ so it would be great if we can get some eyes on that. | 14:17 |
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| smcginnis | I can always update dates if we can't get it done in time, but I'm hoping there's nothing questionable with that plan. | 14:18 |
| gmann | smcginnis: thanks, dates lgtm for now unless we have hard time to find word starting x :). | 14:19 |
| jungleboyj | Looks good. Thanks! | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | Should be a fun one. ;) | 14:21 |
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| fungi | people have already started proposing candidates! | 14:26 |
| * fungi has added two, at least one other person has added several more | 14:27 | |
| smcginnis | Oh, I hadn't looked since I created the page. That's great. | 14:27 |
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| spotz | xerxes:) | 15:02 |
| spotz | Oddly no on has proposed it | 15:03 |
| fungi | another great one, yes! | 15:05 |
| spotz | There's a company named that in Seguin and I drove past it this last weekend:) | 15:06 |
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| spotz | fungi the code on the page looks right but not displaying right:( | 15:10 |
| spotz | Ok got it, Xerxes is proposed | 15:11 |
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| mrunge | hi there, is there a process to become stable-core on telemetry projects? | 15:54 |
| mrunge | I am the current PTL for telemetry and have been stable core for horizon quite a while | 15:54 |
| mrunge | however, for telemetry, there is only one stable core left | 15:54 |
| smcginnis | mrunge: Question probably for #openstack-stable, but the policy has been to do stable reviews and show that you have an understanding of stable policy. Then after that's been established, you can be added to stable-core. | 15:58 |
| smcginnis | That typically hasn't been automatic for PTLs, though usually can be done quickly. | 15:59 |
| mrunge | smcginnis, yes. I totally understand, it's not news to me | 15:59 |
| smcginnis | Since you are already a stable core for horizon, I think it's established that you know the policies. | 15:59 |
| mrunge | however, I happen to be the only one doing that kind of stuff at all | 15:59 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, we should get you added. | 15:59 |
| mrunge | I gave up horizon core and stable core when I changed resposibilities | 16:00 |
| gmann | mrunge: just replied on opendev, we should discuss it in PTG to continue or process further on what we discussed in shangai PTG | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | mrunge: I don't see a telemetry-stable-core. Do you know what that team's group is called? | 16:00 |
| mrunge | smcginnis, just a sec | 16:01 |
| mrunge | gmann, thank you, I read the comment. Do you need anything from me to follow-up here? | 16:01 |
| gmann | mrunge: just added this in PTG etherpad for Friday, feel free to join the discussion - (L113) https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-wallaby-ptg | 16:02 |
| gmann | but yes we should make some final decision or proceed on what we discussed in previous PTG | 16:03 |
| mrunge | smcginnis, there is no telemetry-stable-core group, it seems that there are only groups for each project | 16:03 |
| mrunge | like ceilometer-stable-maint | 16:03 |
| gmann | i think merging them to single telemetry-stable-core make sense and map to what we have in project.yaml | 16:04 |
| mrunge | yes | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | mrunge: I can get you added to each one if you give me a list. But sounds like it would be good to get a new group created. | 16:04 |
| mrunge | I'd create two new groups, telemetry-core and telemetry-stable-core | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | mrunge: Do you know the process for doing that? | 16:06 |
| mrunge | smcginnis, unfortunately not | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | mrunge: They are done here: https://opendev.org/openstack/project-config/src/branch/master/gerrit/acls | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | I'll see if I can track down docs or examples. | 16:07 |
| mrunge | thanks for the pointer, I'll have a look myself | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | mrunge: Basically, you'll want a telemetry.config file there. Then update the projects to point to that group. | 16:08 |
| mrunge | how would I do that? Is there something like include? | 16:09 |
| mrunge | sorry, I never had to hazzle with gerrit configs so far | 16:10 |
| gmann | its under openstack namespace now - https://opendev.org/openstack/project-config/src/branch/master/gerrit/acls/openstack | 16:10 |
| gmann | similar way like existing ceilometer.config https://opendev.org/openstack/project-config/src/branch/master/gerrit/acls/openstack/ceilometer.config | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | mrunge: https://docs.opendev.org/opendev/infra-manual/latest/creators.html#add-gerrit-permissions | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | https://docs.opendev.org/opendev/infra-manual/latest/creators.html#stable-maintenance-team | 16:12 |
| mrunge | that pretty much describes/requires a filename <project-name>... | 16:13 |
| mrunge | hmmm | 16:13 |
| gmann | I do not think that is hard requirement at least by seeing existing file name and project/repo name | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, like I mentioned, just need a telemetry.config file. | 16:14 |
| mrunge | ... I was just wondering how to put it there so that it's still obvious where to find what setting/config | 16:15 |
| mrunge | without having to grep or even to open various files | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | Not sure I follow. | 16:15 |
| gmann | mrunge: just curious, any difference in core team between ceilometer, aodh, panko etc ? or its same | 16:16 |
| mrunge | gmann, it's the same | 16:16 |
| mrunge | well, currently not | 16:16 |
| mrunge | but for most of the teams, there is only one person left | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | mrunge: If you mean how to get the different individual projects to point to the one telemetry.config, that is done similar to here: https://opendev.org/openstack/project-config/src/commit/a69915c1868ccf8300a7af248080a310c06ea32b/gerrit/projects.yaml#L4806 | 16:16 |
| gmann | i see. in case you want to maintain differently then existing file make sense and just add new one for stable for all those repo | 16:17 |
| mrunge | so, technically, they are currently still different | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | You can still have individual groups for each project to be able to control project-specific cores, but then just add the telemetry-core group as a member of those individual ones. | 16:17 |
| gmann | yeah that is more better what smcginnis mentioned | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | Then you have a team-wide set of cores, and still have the ability to do per-project cores. | 16:17 |
| mrunge | since there is only one person in several technically different groups, we should just unite these groups | 16:18 |
| gmann | k | 16:18 |
| mrunge | yes, we can surely inherit cores from other groups too | 16:19 |
| fungi | also related, i realized that the script we use to propose governance changes for election results is currently somewhat broken and effectively skips updating any for which there was a ptl runoff poll, it never even reads the file where we record the poll results, so i'm working on fixing that and pushing up a separate change to correctly record the telemetry ptl election result in governance in a few | 16:22 |
| fungi | minutes | 16:22 |
| fungi | i should have spotted that when closing the election | 16:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack/election master: Use PTL election results for governance updates https://review.opendev.org/760204 | 18:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack/governance master: Update projects with Telemetry PTL election result https://review.opendev.org/760206 | 18:37 |
| fungi | tc-members: ^ oversight on my part, sorry for the extra work | 18:38 |
| fungi | mrunge: ^ | 18:40 |
| gmann | fungi: thanks. sorry for not catching it in original review. | 18:41 |
| fungi | well, at least we have a fix for it in the tooling now | 18:42 |
| jungleboyj | ++ | 18:42 |
| gmann | +1 | 18:42 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks fungi | 18:42 |
| fungi | i think the governance update automation got implemented during a span of cycles in which there were no ptl runoffs so never got that case exercised | 18:42 |
| fungi | i should have thought to check that the original governance patch actually included the result of that election | 18:43 |
| gmann | yeah it was Train where PTL election held last time before Wallaby | 18:44 |
| mrunge | thank you fungi | 18:45 |
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