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| openstackgerrit | kuang congxian proposed openstack/election master: bump py37 to py38 in tox.ini in 'victoria' cycle, we should test py38 by default. https://review.opendev.org/761486 | 02:22 |
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| JayF | Is there currently a plan or working group to address inclusive terminology in branch naming? e.g. s/master/main/ or similar change? | 19:45 |
| clarkb | JayF: the diversity and inclusion working group has been holding meetings on the broader subject | 19:45 |
| clarkb | there was a forum session and many emails have gone to the mailing lists | 19:46 |
| JayF | openstack-discuss hasn't seen a post about it in weeks (since the PTG), and the latest TC update email included no updates about it | 19:46 |
| JayF | just trying to get a handle on timeline -- we're almost to the point downstream of just having misaligned branch names with upstream, which isn't ideal, so I was trying to get a timeline idea | 19:47 |
| clarkb | from a technical standpoint we wrote up an etherpad that talks about some of the considerations to be made there https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/opendev-git-branches its a bit out of date though as we've updated project creation to allow it now | 19:47 |
| clarkb | the ptg was like a week ago wasn't it? | 19:47 |
| JayF | Ironic's portion of the PTG was over two weeks ago I think? | 19:47 |
| JayF | Time runs together since March. It's been even worse since Tuesday | 19:47 |
| JayF | that etherpad is great though; ty for that link | 19:48 |
| clarkb | PTG was last week since I remember it ended wtih halloween :) | 19:48 |
| JayF | Ah, well sorry if I'm pushing the button a little quick :) Was just curious for an update | 19:49 |
| clarkb | from the technical side of things we were hoping new projects would ensure things generally worked before we bothered figuring out a transition for existing projects. | 19:49 |
| clarkb | But at this point all known issues for new projects should be addressed | 19:50 |
| clarkb | (I'm sure there are unknown issues) | 19:50 |
| JayF | It makes sense that it takes time. Seeing the etherpad in particular is helpful. Thanks! | 19:51 |
| fungi | JayF: the d&i wg held two working sessions at the ptg last week, and a followup meeting during their usual meeting time on monday to further update the notes here: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/wallaby-ptg-diversity | 20:04 |
| fungi | also the recording of the forum session just got uploaded here in the past hour or so: https://youtu.be/UnlrLCQFPPM | 20:04 |
| fungi | the main takeaways from the forum session were that the statement for the board of directors looked reasonable, but that projects would appreciate it if the wg could give them a more detailed list of terms they might want to think about and alternative words which could be used in their place, so that's what everyone's been focused on since | 20:05 |
| JayF | Makes sense, and thanks for the even more updated information! | 20:06 |
| fungi | also since the diversity and inclusion working group reports to the foundation board of directors, their meetings are normally announced on the foundation ml: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/foundation/2020-October/ | 20:06 |
| fungi | any openstack-specific decisions would need to come from the openstack tc and leadership of project teams | 20:07 |
| fungi | some of the latest ideas/suggestions/brainstorming has come from getting a technical writer from red hat involved. that's provided great insights | 20:08 |
| JayF | If there's a need or desire for additional resources in that direction, I can try to engage people downstream here. I don't want to do that unless asked though, don't want to have too many cooks. | 20:10 |
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| spotz | jayf Certain things will need to be determined by our own upstream providers. So in the case of branch naming what is the git community doing. The infra team is working to determine if changes can be made on a project/repo/etc basis | 22:03 |
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| clarkb | part of the considering for ^ is we're planning a gerrit upgrade in a couple of weeks | 22:11 |
| clarkb | and its better to think about it with that perspective after the upgrade than before and have it all be wrong 2 weeks later | 22:11 |
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