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| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/governance master: Cool-down cycle goal https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/770616 | 13:40 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | O/ | 15:05 |
| mnaser | hola | 15:06 |
| mnaser | i pushed up a revision of the cooldown cycle goal | 15:06 |
| mnaser | also i found the discussion about the usage of discourse interesting | 15:13 |
| mnaser | i don't know much but i think that opening up beyond mailing lists might really be helpful for the more casual / newer users | 15:14 |
| mnaser | i think mailing lists are pretty primitive and could be a barrier for the ops community | 15:17 |
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| mnaser | https://lwn.net/Articles/817668/ is an interesting read about how it worked out in the debian world | 15:58 |
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| fungi | as an operator of software myself i find it a bit insulting to imply that operators need shiny social media mechanics and can't figure out something as fundamental to the internet as e-mail | 16:45 |
| fungi | the biggest concern people raise about having discussions in multiple places is community fragmentation, but ultimately discussions are going to take place where they take place, so if people want to talk about openstack topics on discourse or stackexchange or reddit or slack or wherever, they will | 16:46 |
| gmann | o/ | 16:47 |
| fungi | and if they don't get critical mass for discussion in those places, it won't really take off, but the only way to know is to try | 16:47 |
| fungi | i mainly just don't think we should alienate our current community by picking up and moving discussion somewhere else. if the community moves to discussion platforms on its own, then that's another story | 16:48 |
| fungi | for discourse specifically, i'll call out that we're faced with a very big challenge. we had trouble finding moderators for ask.o.o and eventually shut it down. i'm still basically the only regularly active moderator for our openstack-discuss mailing list and the most i have time for is wading through spam from non-subscribers to find the occasional question from some user | 16:53 |
| fungi | we'll need a cadre of volunteers to take advantage of things like message pinning, thread splitting, and similar sorts of grooming. also spam will be harder to deal with (basically no spam makes it through to subscribers of openstack-discuss currently) | 16:54 |
| dansmith | fragmentation of the discussion was the point of collapsing the lists down right? | 17:00 |
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| * gmann reading the ML discussion .. | 17:03 | |
| dansmith | I'm missing it.. was there a thread on discourse? how long ago? | 17:05 |
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| gmann | humm, i was referring to l-c removal discussion :) just started the day, need to check log here too if it is same or some other discussion :) | 17:07 |
| dansmith | ah | 17:07 |
| dansmith | heh | 17:07 |
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| jungleboyj | mnaser: I reviewed the updates to the Annual Report. Looks good to me. | 18:39 |
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| fungi | dansmith: there was this thread about moving zuul discussions to discourse, not aware of any recently about openstack: http://lists.zuul-ci.org/pipermail/zuul-discuss/2021-January/001438.html | 18:57 |
| dansmith | ah | 18:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Add page for 2021 upstream investment opportunities https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/771707 | 19:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Add QA in 2021 upstream investment opportunities https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/771708 | 19:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Add RBAC work in 2021 upstream investment opportunities https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/771709 | 19:16 |
| gmann | mnaser: added 'Define 2021 upstream investment opportunities' in tomorrow meeting agenda in case we want to continue or stop as Jan month is the time to decide that. | 19:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Define 2021 upstream investment opportunities https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/771707 | 19:33 |
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