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| mnaser | fungi: looking at those really feels like a blast from the past | 00:09 |
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| fungi | hopefully not too much, we've already folded like a dozen mailing lists into openstack-discuss in recent years | 00:11 |
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| gmann | fungi: I think we should fold these also Enterprise-wg, Openstack-api-consumers, Openstack-stable-maint, openstack-personas | 01:42 |
| gmann | many of them are not active | 01:43 |
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| fungi | i agree on most of those, but openstack-stable-maint gets over a hundred messages a day about failing stable branch periodic jobs (a separate issue which needs addressing) | 12:01 |
| mnaser | i also noted openstack-sos | 12:06 |
| mnaser | which totally did not mean what i thought it was | 12:06 |
| mnaser | :P | 12:06 |
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| gmann | fungi: yeah but it will make sense as we are going to shift the stable maintenance towards project team so they getting failure might get more attention to fix | 13:56 |
| fungi | any ideas on how you intend to raise those failures to the individual project teams? | 13:57 |
| fungi | not via the smtp reporter in the periodic pipeline, i'm assuming, as it can only support a single address | 13:58 |
| gmann | I was thinking to filter those email | 13:58 |
| fungi | filter how? | 13:58 |
| gmann | fungi: I found these two more, 1. openstack-hpc | 13:58 |
| gmann | and 2. community but not sure we should merge this or leave as separate ? tc-members opinion? | 13:59 |
| fungi | i already proposed merging the community list into openstack-discuss a few months ago and there was resistance to the idea there | 13:59 |
| gmann | fungi: resistance from? | 14:00 |
| gmann | fungi: on stable job: you mean general job failure or project specific ? | 14:00 |
| fungi | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/community/2021-March/002060.html | 14:01 |
| fungi | that thread | 14:01 |
| yoctozepto | vive la resistance! | 14:01 |
| fungi | gmann: on the stable jobs in the periodic pipeline, i'm saying right now everything which fails in that pipeline is reported to the openstack-stable-maint ml, so i'm wondering how you intend to change things to bring it to the attention of individual projects (start publishing reports taken from the builds interface in the zuul dashboard instead maybe?) | 14:03 |
| fungi | anyway, i need to get some errands taken care of, can continue discussion in an hour or so | 14:03 |
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| gmann | fungi: on 'Community' ML I am fine if discussion is on local user group and summit organizing thing but many time I saw many related question are being forwarded to openstack-discuss which is where they should ask those so combining it may help to miss such queries. | 15:06 |
| fungi | gmann: yes, that was my argument, for at least a while it was getting more off-topic posts forwarded to openstack-discuss than on-topic posts | 15:17 |
| gmann | fungi: thanks. replied on that thread, let's discuss there http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/community/2021-June/002073.html | 15:49 |
| fungi | thanks, so far the only people to respond to it were someone asking where to pose support questions, and someone from the foundation asserting it gets used to reach a particular audience around conference time, but no actual responses from the audience it purports to reach | 15:53 |
| fungi | leading me to suspect it's a black hole for the communications it's supposedly used for | 15:53 |
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| gmann | yeah | 15:57 |
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| gmann | tc-members: please vote on devstack-gate deprecation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/795385 | 22:27 |
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| gmann | fungi: ^^ and you too as SIG chair | 22:55 |
| fungi | oh yep, thanks for the reminder! | 22:57 |
| fungi | will do once my internet comes back up | 22:58 |
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| gmann | thanks | 23:06 |
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