| *** diablo_rojo is now known as Guest2181 | 03:19 | |
| yoctozepto | lol, freenode seems to have removed my nick and dropped the openstack channels I was in | 05:52 |
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| yoctozepto | heh | 05:52 |
| *** iurygregory_ is now known as iurygregory | 06:19 | |
| *** rpittau|afk is now known as rpittau | 07:13 | |
| opendevreview | Matthias Runge proposed openstack/governance master: Panko is deprecated now https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/796408 | 09:03 |
| fungi | yoctozepto: i wonder what the deciding factor was... i'm still in 4 #openstack- channels on freenode (election, infra, security and tc) and haven't seen the channel topics change yet | 12:09 |
| fungi | i'm also still in opendev, openinfra and zuul channels there which haven't been hit yet | 12:10 |
| yoctozepto | fungi: then for sure they did not target the openstack namespace, just individual accounts | 12:10 |
| yoctozepto | did they remove your nick? | 12:11 |
| fungi | not that i noticed | 12:11 |
| yoctozepto | perhaps they were only after me | 12:11 |
| fungi | though my current server connection has started timing out 15 minutes ago, so maybe it just happened? | 12:11 |
| yoctozepto | probably | 12:12 |
| yoctozepto | perhaps they implemented a manual process | 12:12 |
| fungi | well, my connection lag counter finally reset, so maybe it's just a ddos against their servers or something | 12:30 |
| TheJulia | Random drive-by question of the morning. Have we considered trying to remind projects to update the OpenStack wiki page on wikipedia? | 13:05 |
| *** diablo_rojo__ is now known as diablo_rojo | 13:13 | |
| fungi | i wonder how many folks in various projects are wikipedia editors, i'm guessing not many | 13:13 |
| yoctozepto | I'm not | 14:00 |
| fungi | there's a rather involved application process to become one. not just anyone is allowed to edit articles on wikipedia | 14:02 |
| tosky | technically anyone involved with a certain activity/project shouldn't edit the corresponding pages in wikipedia | 14:03 |
| tosky | uhm, or maybe just in the Italian one? I don't find the policy I had in mind | 14:04 |
| tosky | ah, this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest | 14:05 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, it's in the bigger wikipedias | 14:08 |
| yoctozepto | it makes sense | 14:08 |
| yoctozepto | we should be described as the public sees us | 14:09 |
| yoctozepto | anyhow, switching topic | 14:10 |
| yoctozepto | jungleboyj, mnaser: has there been any communication with the cinder team regarding the gate? | 14:10 |
| * yoctozepto wonder if he's not missing out | 14:10 | |
| *** njohnston_ is now known as njohnston | 14:22 | |
| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Update Chair duties file for release tracker etc https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/796320 | 14:24 |
| *** rpittau is now known as rpittau|afk | 14:29 | |
| fungi | okay, looks like they did indeed delete the channel registrations on freenode, now that my connection to their servers has recovered | 15:52 |
| fungi | though whois there does still report me as "logged in" so it doesn't seem like my nick registration was obliterated | 15:53 |
| fungi | also our channel topics are still intact, at least on the channels i'm lurking | 15:53 |
| melwitt | I learned from reading the twitters that they moved to a new fork https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27510192 but the old servers are still running as well. the registrations were not migrated to the new servers, so it depends on which you connect to wrt whether you see your registration or not | 15:55 |
| mugsie | fungi: yeah, i ended up on the new side of the fork, and it is all gone - registrations / channels / topics etc | 15:56 |
| fungi | interesting | 15:56 |
| fungi | i still see channel topics and am still logged in, but chanserv reports that the channels aren't registered | 15:56 |
| fungi | also it looks like i'm the only one in those channels, so yeah maybe there's a netsplit | 15:57 |
| gmann | I was logged off and now not able to connect | 15:59 |
| fungi | were you using irccloud? they apparently got blocked permanently | 15:59 |
| gmann | ircloud was blocked before and then i joined via web client | 16:00 |
| gmann | seems their web client is down? https://webchat.freenode.net/ | 16:01 |
| mnaser | forgive me language | 16:02 |
| mnaser | but it's a shitshow :) | 16:02 |
| mugsie | yeah - sad to see it, it just adds fuel to the anti IRC fire :/ | 16:03 |
| gmann | anyways we are all good I think, I will remind PTL/projects to update their doc/wiki on priority as I can see ~20 project are not done yet | 16:03 |
| *** ricolin_ is now known as ricolin | 16:26 | |
| * yoctozepto is just glad we migrated before it got this wrong | 16:34 | |
| * fungi wishes we'd done it when it was first officially proposed in 2014 | 16:35 | |
| * mnaser likes what they're seeing with Zuul moving to Matrix and hopes we do the same | 17:15 | |
| fungi | the opendev sysadmins will be discussing a spec about making our bots available on matrix natively later today (meeting is 1.5 hours from now in #opendev-meeting) | 17:30 |
| fungi | https://review.opendev.org/796156 | 17:31 |
| *** ricolin_ is now known as ricolin | 17:32 | |
| fungi | even debian needed to issue a statement about discouraging use of unofficial debian channels on freenode: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2021/06/msg00002.html | 17:39 |
| fungi | a bit surprising given they haven't officially used it since ~2006 | 17:40 |
| yoctozepto | the situation is wrong enough that anything can happen | 17:44 |
| fungi | yep, apparently there was still an unofficial outpost for the community on freenode | 17:49 |
| tosky | would it make sense to start closing devstack-gate tasks here? https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/712 | 18:02 |
| fungi | sure, just mark them all invalid if you have time | 18:08 |
| fungi | i doubt any are strictly required to be fixed for stable branch support, since we assume stable branches are working to the extent we'll continue to support | 18:09 |
| yoctozepto | agreed | 18:55 |
| gmann | yeah we can close those and fix stable branch only when broken | 19:25 |
| jungleboyj | yoctozepto: No, I have still been working on getting caught up from vacation. Came back to find co-workers moving on and it has been a shitshow. | 19:49 |
| jungleboyj | tosky: Are you aware of anything being done to improve Cinder's gate performance? | 19:49 |
| tosky | jungleboyj: I know several fixes have been applied at least in master a few weeks ago to reduce the failures | 19:50 |
| tosky | jungleboyj: do you have up-to-date data about cinder gate performance? I remember some discussions here but last time I've checked (one month ago?) the global data about gates usage were a bit outdated | 19:50 |
| jungleboyj | Checking the meeting notes from last week. | 19:51 |
| tosky | it would be better to have some specific pointers | 19:52 |
| tosky | I know the gates are blocked right now due to the sqlalchemy issues in barbican | 19:52 |
| tosky | and it took a while to fix the sqlalchemy errors in cinder itself | 19:53 |
| tosky | but I think it would be better to discuss about some data | 19:53 |
| jungleboyj | After reading through the meeting logs the concern is they feel the issue still isn't getting traction with the team. No specific pointers other than dansmith continuing to see a lot of Cinder failures. | 19:54 |
| jungleboyj | Starting a discussion with rosmaita over in the Cinder channel. | 19:54 |
| tosky | again, if it's the thing raised a few months ago, I believe the failures have been addressed | 19:55 |
| tosky | if it's something new, it depends on what it is | 19:55 |
| gmann | its same issue occurring for many months, sometime more frequently | 19:56 |
| tosky | I'm sure those issues discussed months ago have been fixed | 19:59 |
| tosky | there have been more sporadic failures | 19:59 |
| tosky | and for at least one week the job which also deploys barbican is blocked on barbican/sqlalchemy issues | 19:59 |
| gmann | cleaned up the devstack-gate tasks | 20:12 |
| fungi | thanks! | 20:15 |
| gmann | fungi: ttx who is the right person to contact to change IRC network name in two places in openstack site (https://www.openstack.org/blog/ https://www.openstack.org/community/) | 20:54 |
| fungi | gmann: jimmy was talking about fixing that on the community page today in a staff meeting, i'll let him know about the blog page | 21:11 |
| gmann | fungi: ok, thanks. I wrote it in etherpad too about the section - L59 https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-irc-migration-to-oftc | 21:12 |
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