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| gmann | tc-members: meeting time. | 15:00 |
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| gmann | #startmeeting tc | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Jul 15 15:00:10 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'tc' | 15:00 |
| gmann | #topic Roll call | 15:00 |
| gmann | o/ | 15:00 |
| ricolin | o/ | 15:00 |
| mnaser | hola | 15:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 15:00 |
| gmann | we have 3 members absent today. | 15:01 |
| gmann | yoctozepto on PTO | 15:01 |
| gmann | spotz on PTO | 15:01 |
| gmann | jungleboyj on PTO | 15:01 |
| gmann | let's start | 15:02 |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Agenda_Suggestions | 15:02 |
| gmann | ^^ today agenda | 15:02 |
| gmann | #topic Follow up on past action items | 15:02 |
| gmann | two AI from last meeting | 15:02 |
| gmann | clarkb to convey the ELK service shutdown deadline on ML | 15:03 |
| gmann | clarkb send it to ML #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-July/023578.html | 15:03 |
| gmann | gmann to send ML to fix warning and oslo side changes to convert them to error | 15:03 |
| gmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-July/023646.html | 15:03 |
| gmann | gibi mentioned about sqlAlchemy warning also which need keystone fix to merge to get oslo.db 10.0.0 in g-r | 15:04 |
| diablo_rojo_phone | O/ | 15:04 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/keystone/+/799672 | 15:04 |
| gmann | seems less active member in kesytone. | 15:04 |
| gmann | knikolla: ^^ if you see this msg | 15:05 |
| gmann | stephen already pinged keystone team on keystone channel so let's see if we can merge it soon | 15:05 |
| gmann | #topic Gate health check (dansmith/yoctozepto) | 15:06 |
| gmann | dansmith: any update you would like to share? | 15:06 |
| dansmith | gate has seemed fairly good to me lately, hard to complain much | 15:06 |
| ricolin | also check-arm64 was blocked last week, but back to normal now | 15:07 |
| gmann | one issue i am aware of and is fixed now. tempest-full-py3 was broken on ussuri due to python3 disable via base job | 15:07 |
| dansmith | oh, | 15:07 |
| gmann | +1 | 15:07 |
| tosky | (tempest-slow-py3) | 15:07 |
| gmann | yeah tempest-slow-py3 | 15:07 |
| dansmith | not really gate, but is the depends-on is still broken? | 15:07 |
| gmann | dansmith: that is fixed now | 15:08 |
| fungi | i don't believe so, i saw the message about it mention an immediate revert | 15:08 |
| dansmith | okay cool | 15:08 |
| gmann | worked for tempest-slow-py3 fix testing | 15:08 |
| clarkb | yes as soon as we identified the issue we pushed and landed a revert of the change that broke depends-on. Then restarted as soon as that had applied to the servers | 15:08 |
| fungi | don't believe it to still be broken, i meant | 15:08 |
| gmann | clarkb: +1 | 15:08 |
| dansmith | okay I thought it was broken for a while | 15:09 |
| clarkb | dansmith: from Sunday evening to about Tuesday Noonish relative to our timezone | 15:09 |
| dansmith | ah okay | 15:09 |
| dansmith | anyway, nothing else gate-ish from me | 15:10 |
| gmann | ok, let's move next then | 15:10 |
| gmann | #topic Migration from 'Freenode' to 'OFTC' (gmann) | 15:10 |
| gmann | while doing this for deprecation repo, i found few repo not deprecated or retired properly. also some setup in project-config side need update | 15:10 |
| gmann | project-config side things are merged | 15:11 |
| gmann | for retired repo, I am leaving the OFTC ref update because 1. they are many repo 2. need to add setup in project-config to get it updated to github repo | 15:11 |
| gmann | if anyone has time I will not object. | 15:12 |
| gmann | #topic PTG Planning | 15:12 |
| gmann | Doodle poll for slot selection | 15:13 |
| gmann | please vote your availability/preference | 15:13 |
| diablo_rojo_phone | Will do today. | 15:14 |
| gmann | thanks | 15:14 |
| gmann | ricolin: jungleboyj you too | 15:14 |
| gmann | we need to book slot by 21st July | 15:14 |
| ricolin | I thought I already vote, but will check again | 15:15 |
| gmann | also I sent doodle poll for TC+PTL interaction session which is 2 hrs either on Monday or Tuesday | 15:15 |
| gmann | #link https://doodle.com/poll/ua72h8aip4srsy8s | 15:15 |
| gmann | ricolin: i think you voted on TC+PTL sessions not on TC PTG | 15:15 |
| gmann | please check | 15:15 |
| ricolin | you're right | 15:15 |
| ricolin | will vote right now | 15:15 |
| dansmith | too many doodles | 15:15 |
| gmann | ricolin: thanks | 15:16 |
| gmann | for TC sessions, I am thinking to book slot for two days and 4 hrs each day ? | 15:16 |
| gmann | that should be enough? what you all say ? | 15:16 |
| dansmith | I'll have a hard time making all of that, as usual, but sure | 15:17 |
| ricolin | done | 15:17 |
| ricolin | gmann, I think that's good enough | 15:18 |
| gmann | k | 15:18 |
| gmann | and this is etherpad to collect the topic #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-yoga-ptg | 15:18 |
| gmann | please start adding the topic you would like to discuss | 15:18 |
| gmann | anything else on PTG thing? | 15:19 |
| diablo_rojo_phone | I assume we also want to coordinate with the k8s folks for some time? | 15:19 |
| ricolin | diablo_rojo_phone, +1 | 15:20 |
| gmann | sure, last time k8s folks did not join but we are always fine if they would like to. we can have 1 hr slot for that if ok for them | 15:20 |
| diablo_rojo_phone | Something to keep in mind. | 15:21 |
| diablo_rojo_phone | Yeah I think with more heads up and if we dictate a time to them and put an ical on their ml we should get more engagement. | 15:21 |
| gmann | sure, i did last time on ML also. I can do this time too. | 15:22 |
| ricolin | IMO we like to include that, maybe we need more than 8 hours(4 a day) | 15:22 |
| gmann | ricolin: time slot is not issue I think. | 15:22 |
| ricolin | s/we like/if we like/ | 15:22 |
| ricolin | gmann, Okay | 15:22 |
| gmann | but yes we can extend if needed | 15:22 |
| gmann | added this in etherpad | 15:24 |
| gmann | anything else ? | 15:24 |
| gmann | #topic ELK services plan and help status | 15:24 |
| gmann | Help status | 15:24 |
| gmann | I think there is no help yet. clarkb fungi anything you heard from anyone ? | 15:24 |
| clarkb | I have not | 15:25 |
| gmann | k | 15:25 |
| gmann | Reducing the size of the existing system | 15:25 |
| gmann | clarkb: ^^ go ahead | 15:25 |
| clarkb | Since increasing the log workers to 60% of our total it is keeping up much better than before | 15:25 |
| clarkb | On the Elasticsearch cluster side of things we are using ~2.4TB of disk right now. We have 6TB total but only 5TB is usuable. The reason for this is we have 6 nodes with 1TB each and we are resilient to a single node failure which means we need to fit within the disk available on 5 instances | 15:26 |
| clarkb | Given that the current disk usage is 2.4TB or so we can probably reduce the cluster size to 5 nodes. Then we would have 5TB total and 4TB useable. | 15:26 |
| clarkb | If we reduce to 4 nodes then we get 3TB usable and I think that is too close for comfort | 15:27 |
| clarkb | One thing to keep in mind is that growing the system again if we shrink and it falls over is likely to be difficult. For this reason I think we can take our time. Keep monitoring usage patterns a bit before we commit to anything | 15:27 |
| clarkb | But based on the numbers available today I would say we should shrink the log workers to 60% of their total size now and reduce the elasticsearch cluster size by one instance | 15:28 |
| gmann | 2.4 TB is usual usage like during peak time of release etc or just current one ? | 15:28 |
| clarkb | gmann: just during the current usage. Its hard to look at numbers historically like that because cacti doesn't give us great resolution. But maybe fungi or corvus have tricks to find that data more ccurately | 15:29 |
| gmann | 'shrink the log workers to 60% of their total size' - shrink or increase ? | 15:29 |
| gmann | initially you mentioned increasing | 15:30 |
| clarkb | gmann: shrink. We have 20 instances now. I have disabled the processes on 8 of them and we seem to be keeping up. That means we can shrink to 60% I think | 15:30 |
| clarkb | gmann: last week I had it set to 50% and we were not keeping up so I increased that to 60% but that is still a shrink compared to 100% | 15:30 |
| gmann | ohk got it | 15:30 |
| gmann | i though 60% more from what we had:) | 15:31 |
| gmann | 8thought | 15:31 |
| gmann | I think this is reasonable proposal. | 15:31 |
| clarkb | Anyway that is what the current data says we can do. Lets watch it a bit more and see if more data changes anything | 15:31 |
| clarkb | But if this stays consistent we can probably go ahead and make those changes more permanent | 15:31 |
| gmann | clarkb: is it fine to monitor until Xena release ? | 15:32 |
| gmann | or you think we should decide early than that ? | 15:32 |
| clarkb | its probably ok to monitor until then. Particularly during feature freeze as that is when demand tends to be highest | 15:33 |
| gmann | yeah | 15:33 |
| clarkb | that was all I had. We can watch it and if those numbers hold up make the changes after the xena release (or maybe after feature freeze) | 15:35 |
| gmann | +1 sounds perfect | 15:35 |
| gmann | clarkb: anything else you would like to keep discussing on this in TC meeting or is it fine to remove it from agenda for now and re-add during Xena release ? | 15:35 |
| clarkb | Should be fine to remove for now | 15:36 |
| gmann | ok | 15:36 |
| gmann | thanks a lot clarkb for reporting on data and help on this. | 15:36 |
| gmann | #topic Open Reviews | 15:37 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open | 15:37 |
| gmann | many open reviews, let's check them quickly and vote accordingly | 15:37 |
| ricolin | will do | 15:38 |
| gmann | tc-members please vote on the Yoga testing runtime #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/799927 | 15:38 |
| gmann | which is same as what we had in Xena | 15:38 |
| gmann | centos-stream9 can be added later once that is released | 15:38 |
| clarkb | gmann: are you planning to support both 8 and 9? | 15:39 |
| clarkb | my selfish preference is that you pick only the one (as it allows us to delete images more quickly) | 15:39 |
| gmann | clarkb: no, one, means updating 8->9 | 15:39 |
| clarkb | got it | 15:39 |
| gmann | need one more vote on this project-update #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/799826 | 15:40 |
| gmann | others are either having enough required vote or waiting for depends-on /zuul fix. | 15:42 |
| ricolin | voted | 15:42 |
| gmann | thanks | 15:42 |
| gmann | ricolin: this quick one for governance-sig https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance-sigs/+/800135 | 15:42 |
| gmann | anything else we need to discuss for today meeting? | 15:42 |
| ricolin | done | 15:42 |
| gmann | thanks | 15:43 |
| ricolin | yes | 15:43 |
| ricolin | one thing, sorry for the delay but I sended the ML for collect pain point out http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-July/023659.html | 15:43 |
| gmann | +1 | 15:44 |
| ricolin | for the eliminate pain point idea | 15:44 |
| ricolin | Let's see if we can get valid pain point feedback from teams | 15:44 |
| gmann | thanks ricolin for doing that. | 15:45 |
| ricolin | NP, will keep tracking | 15:45 |
| gmann | sure | 15:45 |
| gmann | anything else? | 15:45 |
| gmann | thanks all for joining, let's close meeting | 15:46 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 15:46 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Jul 15 15:46:23 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:46 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-07-15-15.00.html | 15:46 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-07-15-15.00.txt | 15:46 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-07-15-15.00.log.html | 15:46 |
| ricolin | thanks gmann | 15:46 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/governance-sigs master: Moving IRC network reference to OFTC https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance-sigs/+/800135 | 15:49 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/governance master: Create repo for Hashicorp Vault deployment https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/799826 | 16:17 |
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| opendevreview | Merged openstack/governance master: Proposing consistent and secure RBAC as a community-wide goal https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/799705 | 16:19 |
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