| opendevreview | zhurong proposed openstack/election master: Add Rong Zhu's candidacy for Murano PTL (Yoga) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805511 | 01:46 |
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| opendevreview | gecong proposed openstack/election master: Add Cong Ge's candidacy for Freezer PTL (Yoga) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805553 | 03:02 |
| opendevreview | gecong proposed openstack/election master: Add Cong Ge's candidacy for Freezer PTL (Yoga) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805553 | 03:09 |
| opendevreview | XueFeng Liu proposed openstack/election master: test https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805554 | 03:16 |
| opendevreview | XueFeng Liu proposed openstack/election master: Add XueFeng Liu candidacy for Senlin PTL in Yoga https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805554 | 03:46 |
| opendevreview | XueFeng Liu proposed openstack/election master: Add XueFeng Liu candidacy for Senlin PTL in Yoga https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805554 | 05:01 |
| opendevreview | Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/election master: Adding Dmitriy Rabotyagov candidacy for OpenStack-Ansible in Yoga https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805580 | 06:36 |
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| opendevreview | Matthias Runge proposed openstack/election master: Adding Matthias Runge candidacy for Telemetry https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805597 | 08:21 |
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| opendevreview | Abhishek Kekane proposed openstack/election master: Adding Abhishek Kekane candidacy for Glance PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805603 | 08:43 |
| *** ykarel|lunch is now known as ykarel | 09:36 | |
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| opendevreview | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/election master: [Rally] Andrey Kurilin candidacy https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805642 | 13:33 |
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| opendevreview | Yasufumi Ogawa proposed openstack/election master: Add Yasufumi Ogawa candidacy for Tacker PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805656 | 14:58 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Add Kendall Nelson's Candidacy for TC https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805536 | 15:34 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Add Ke Chen candidacy for Watcher https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805232 | 15:39 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Add XueFeng Liu candidacy for Senlin PTL in Yoga https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805554 | 15:43 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Adding Abhishek Kekane candidacy for Glance PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805603 | 15:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Adding Matthias Runge candidacy for Telemetry https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805597 | 15:45 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Adding Dmitriy Rabotyagov candidacy for OpenStack-Ansible in Yoga https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805580 | 15:46 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Add Cong Ge's candidacy for Freezer PTL (Yoga) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805553 | 15:46 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Add Rong Zhu's candidacy for Murano PTL (Yoga) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805511 | 15:46 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Add Rong Zhu's candidacy for Solum PTL (Yoga) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805512 | 15:46 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Add TC candidacy for Ghanshyam Mann https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805445 | 15:46 |
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| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: [Rally] Andrey Kurilin candidacy https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805642 | 16:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Modify Setup Yoga Elections configuration https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/798719 | 16:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Set up empty directories for Yoga elections https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805021 | 16:05 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Add Yasufumi Ogawa candidacy for Tacker PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805656 | 16:07 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/governance master: Select secure RBAC community-wide goal for Yoga cycle https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/803783 | 16:09 |
| gmann | seems like only 52% projects have PTL candidate confirmed and 48% still to go.. | 16:11 |
| opendevreview | Maysa de Macedo Souza proposed openstack/election master: Adding Maysa de Macedo Souza candidacy for Kuryr PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805658 | 16:11 |
| fungi | gmann: is that taking current dpl projects into account? | 16:13 |
| opendevreview | Jay Bryant proposed openstack/election master: Add Jay Bryant Yoga TC Candidacy https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805659 | 16:13 |
| fungi | i can't recall if we updated the election tooling to ignore dpl projects | 16:14 |
| gmann | yeah, that is not updated yet. | 16:14 |
| gmann | so we have 2 DPL projects | 16:14 |
| ianychoi[m] | gmann: 3 projects (keystone, mistral, oslo) mentioned as "leadership_type: distributed" in current projects.yaml? | 16:19 |
| gmann | ianychoi[m]: right its 3. missed mistral | 16:20 |
| fungi | ideally the yoga candidate dirs for those teams would be deleted from the election repo, which should result in correct stats | 16:22 |
| fungi | that might be all the adjustment required | 16:22 |
| fungi | and then fix the setup script to not generate placeholders for those in the future (based on the leadership_type value for them in projects.yaml) | 16:23 |
| ianychoi[m] | fungi: good idea | 16:23 |
| ianychoi[m] | Will do now | 16:23 |
| fungi | it's possible the team listing is centralized in some function, i don't remember, but if so that might also fix it so they don't get listed on the published election page as well | 16:24 |
| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/election master: Remove projects with DPL model https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805660 | 16:24 |
| gmann | fungi: ianychoi[m] ^^ | 16:24 |
| ianychoi[m] | gmann: you are faster :) | 16:24 |
| gmann | 55% projects with candidate | 16:25 |
| fungi | that sounds at least a little better (it's more than half anyway) | 16:25 |
| gmann | and Zun candidacy is there but not validated and might need appointment | 16:26 |
| fungi | i guess that's the one where the current ptl and only nominee didn't actually propose any changes which merged to the team's deliverables for the past year? | 16:27 |
| gmann | yeah | 16:28 |
| fungi | the decision there seems fairly straightforward if no valid candidate volunteers, but it's probably for the best that this sort of situation comes to the attention of the tc anyway | 16:29 |
| opendevreview | Gregory Thiemonge proposed openstack/election master: Adding Gregory Thiemonge candidacy for Octavia PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805662 | 16:35 |
| spotz | Would it be a bad thing if a DPL project got a PTL candidate? | 16:36 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Add Jay Bryant Yoga TC Candidacy https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805659 | 16:39 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Adding Maysa de Macedo Souza candidacy for Kuryr PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805658 | 16:39 |
| fungi | spotz: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20200803-distributed-project-leadership.html#process-for-opting-in-to-distributed-leadership "Once a project team has moved to the distributed leadership model, they can revert to the PTL model by creating a change to projects.yaml to remove the “leadership_type: distributed” line in the team’s configuration. This change should | 16:39 |
| fungi | have at least a +1 from all the people currently serving as liaisons, including the release liaison for the project team, which might not be in the governance repo. It must also get a +1 from the future PTL, listed in the same change." | 16:39 |
| spotz | fungi just wondering if we should remoove the directories then if it's at least possible | 16:39 |
| fungi | so i guess if there's enough advance notice, that's doable | 16:39 |
| fungi | seems like the ptl nomination week may not be enough advance notice for the team's existing liaisons to decide on whether they wish to adjust their leadership model | 16:40 |
| fungi | especially since the next bit after what i quotes says "A project team may change their opt-in status only once a release cycle, to ensure that the elections officials have clarity on which project teams need PTL elections. All requests should be received by week R-5 of the release calendar." | 16:41 |
| fungi | oh, though r5 is next week, so i suppose that's soon enough after all | 16:42 |
| fungi | worth the rest of the tc talking through what that should look like, i guess | 16:42 |
| spotz | And it's not a bad thing if someone steps up as long as everyonr in the project is good with it | 16:45 |
| gmann | yeah, they can step up for PTL during election time or later. | 16:47 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Remove projects with DPL model https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805660 | 16:50 |
| yoctozepto | what's the status of zun? I could not grasp the core of that discussion ;-) | 16:56 |
| fungi | yoctozepto: the only nominee right now is the current ptl, who is not able to be confirmed as a valid candidate for election to the position because of not being the committer of any change to an official deliverable for it over the past year | 16:58 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805380 | 16:58 |
| yoctozepto | fungi, gmann: oh my openstack! | 16:59 |
| fungi | like i said, it's good that such situations come to the attention of the tc, it probably speaks to an extremely low contributor activity level or some other similar sort of concern | 17:00 |
| yoctozepto | fungi, gmann: well, the contents of that candidacy mention "Cyborg" rather than "Zun" | 17:00 |
| gmann | I think that can be candidate for DPL but let's discuss during appointment | 17:00 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: :) yeah | 17:00 |
| yoctozepto | fungi: tbh, when I tried to sell Zun (even contributed a chunk of integration in Kolla Ansible), I realised it loses to Kubernetes in too many areas to be considered a serious alternative nowadays | 17:01 |
| yoctozepto | so my reflection is that it's only kept up because someone is using it | 17:01 |
| yoctozepto | and I doubt it is getting new adopters | 17:02 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Adding Gregory Thiemonge candidacy for Octavia PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805662 | 17:02 |
| yoctozepto | unless they somehow managed to miss the existence of Kubernetes | 17:02 |
| yoctozepto | fungi: fwiw, unlike murano, I know the basics simply work, it's just not selling well | 17:04 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: yeah, dpl sounds fine; though, again, we are running the obvious risk of bitrot | 17:05 |
| yoctozepto | but the quality discussion is already scheduled for ptg | 17:06 |
| yoctozepto | so let's just decide on dpl if really no valid ptl candidate comes | 17:06 |
| ianychoi[m] | Technically, the patch would be eligible if the current PTL (same person) can propose a patch on Zun repo and do a self-merge now since timeframe for this election is by 8/24/2021 00:00 UTC - it happened on Watcher: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805232 fyi | 17:07 |
| gmann | yeah, we can check with candidate (current PTL) also. but yeah during appointment time | 17:07 |
| fungi | in the case of zun, i don't know that dpl necessarily makes sense unless you're expecting there to be volunteers for all the required liaison positions on it (and if those are all the same person, you might as well just appoint that person the ptl instead) | 17:09 |
| fungi | transitioning to dpl model actually requires more engagement from the team, not less. it's suitable if multiple people want to share the responsibilities, but not an answer for not having volunteers to do the work | 17:10 |
| yoctozepto | fungi: yeah, what you are saying makes total sense; I must be tired :-) | 17:11 |
| yoctozepto | ianychoi[m]: well, it's kind of shame that the ptl actually made no change during the last cycle | 17:12 |
| yoctozepto | good that you mention watcher; we might want to create a list of these under-performing projects... so that's clear what to expect when we actually raise the bar | 17:13 |
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| opendevreview | Matthew Thode proposed openstack/election master: Adding Matthew Thode candidacy for Requirements PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805695 | 19:12 |
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| fungi | early warning klaxon, there's a pileup on the integrated gate highway, looks like a wreck related to neutron-fullstack-with-uwsgi at the front | 19:50 |
| fungi | worth keeping a closer eye on as we're getting into feature freeze crunch time now | 19:50 |
| fungi | on a positive note, this is the longest i've seen the integrated queue in a while, and it's less than 7 hours at the moment | 19:52 |
| opendevreview | Michael Johnson proposed openstack/election master: Adding Michael Johnson candidacy for Designate PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805697 | 20:07 |
| opendevreview | Lance Albertson proposed openstack/election master: Add Lance Albertson candidancy for Openstack Chef PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805699 | 20:34 |
| opendevreview | Iury Gregory Melo Ferreira proposed openstack/election master: Add Iury Gregory candidacy for Ironic PTL (Yoga) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805701 | 20:38 |
| -opendevstatus- NOTICE: The Gerrit service on review.opendev.org has been restarted for a patch version upgrade, resulting in a brief outage | 21:43 | |
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