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| gmann | tc-members: there are some issue raised for stable branch changes merging issue (lack of stable branch cores) http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-October/025161.html | 16:18 |
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| gmann | we should have the new team structure merge soon https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/810721/ | 16:18 |
| gmann | please review if you have any any early feedback. | 16:18 |
| dansmith | gmann: probably not until it's unmarked as wip right? :) | 16:19 |
| dansmith | and of course all the trailing whitespace removed (oh the horror) | 16:19 |
| fungi | gmann: i think the bigger issue that message raises is that tw-sig is soon defunct (as soon as stephenfin finishes the xena release tasks and steps down) | 16:19 |
| TheJulia | fungi: ++ | 16:19 |
| fungi | dansmith: don't taunt the whitespace gods, they are unforgiving | 16:19 |
| gmann | dansmith: ok. mnaser can you update that or anything more you would not to propose | 16:20 |
| gmann | fungi: yes, that is one topic I am adding in TC meeting and PTG too. need to solve that as separate than stable | 16:20 |
| mnaser | i think i just pushed up whatever i had and i was hoping for some help to complete it from jungleboyj =) | 16:20 |
| fungi | absolutely. the ml post mixed the two, and i wanted to make sure they were both addressed | 16:21 |
| gmann | let's first solve the stable team things and then find the Doc SIG maintainer | 16:21 |
| gmann | fungi: +1. yeah. | 16:21 |
| fungi | to be fair, i don't think having just one person in the sig is sustainable | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | mnaser: :-) I had reviewed and it looked good to me. What can I do to help further? | 16:21 |
| fungi | stephenfin was just the last one standing | 16:21 |
| gmann | fungi: agree. | 16:22 |
| mnaser | jungleboyj: maybe if you can draft up the 'proposed solution' section i guess? | 16:22 |
| gmann | yeah he has put extra effort to keep it live till now | 16:22 |
| fungi | effectively, central documentation-related tasks become the tc's direct responsibility (or possibly go unperformed) until new people are found to take them on | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. I can take the comments from Gmann and draft something up there. | 16:24 |
| gmann | jungleboyj: thanks. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | Need to run for an appointment shortly but will get something pushed up this afternoon. | 16:26 |
| gmann | added Doc SIG for next meeting/PTG and let's see if we can get anyone interested to help from community | 16:27 |
| gmann | jungleboyj: np! | 16:27 |
| gmann | to handle current stable branch doc site, I agree with Elod proposal of auto-merging the auto-generated patches and have their doc site for stable up | 16:28 |
| fungi | note that those still require human oversight. often changes aren't immediately able to pass tests on newly created stable branches, so someone needs to check behind and make sure they actually land | 16:29 |
| fungi | at which point it might make sense to just have a person approve them | 16:30 |
| fungi | which takes us back to the original problem of there not being people to do that | 16:30 |
| gmann | We have Elod there and he is mostly single +2 in most of them and wait for 2nd +2 | 16:33 |
| fungi | maybe it's as simple as a stable-maint policy that autogenerated release management changes which are passing tests can be single-reviewer approved? | 16:36 |
| clarkb | We already have similar rules for translations and requirelents iirc | 16:36 |
| clarkb | also I can't type | 16:36 |
| gmann | +1, agree. | 16:37 |
| gmann | let's have new process and we can add this ^^ exception of single core approval in that. | 16:37 |
| fungi | most teams more generally accept that core reviewers are trusted to use their best judgement as to when a change can be approved, even in cases where there are no other core reviewers who have looked at it. autogenerated changes, of any, seem like a clear case where that's acceptable | 16:38 |
| dansmith | fungi: to be fair, I don't think one person constitutes a "group" anyway :P | 16:39 |
| fungi | there's that | 16:40 |
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| opendevreview | Jay Bryant proposed openstack/governance master: wip: stable core team https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/810721 | 20:31 |
| jungleboyj | mnaser: gmann dansmith ^^^ attempt to explain proposed solution based on discussions. | 20:32 |
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