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| gmann | tc-members meeting time | 15:00 |
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| gmann | #startmeeting tc | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Dec 23 15:00:19 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'tc' | 15:00 |
| gmann | #topic Roll call | 15:00 |
| gmann | o/ | 15:00 |
| ricolin | o/ | 15:00 |
| yoctozepto | o/ | 15:00 |
| gmann | four TC will be absent - | 15:01 |
| gmann | Dan Smith on PTO until 2nd Jan | 15:01 |
| gmann | Jay Bryant PTO | 15:01 |
| gmann | Amy Marrich PTO | 15:01 |
| gmann | Belmiro Moreira <belmoreira> - PTO | 15:01 |
| diablo_rojo | o/ | 15:02 |
| gmann | let's start. | 15:02 |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Agenda_Suggestions | 15:02 |
| gmann | today agenda ^^. not much so we can do quick meeting | 15:03 |
| gmann | #topic Follow up on past action items | 15:03 |
| gmann | ricolin to check with Artem about championing the OSC community-wide goal | 15:03 |
| gmann | ricolin: any update? | 15:03 |
| ricolin | yes | 15:04 |
| ricolin | so I have talk with Artem last week, and we agree the first thing is to recheck goal blocker which shows up years ago | 15:05 |
| ricolin | like when the last time it's proposed as goal, forks from glance team -1 on it | 15:06 |
| ricolin | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/pain-point-elimination#L30 | 15:07 |
| gmann | yeah, that is good plan. and good to check before goal proposal | 15:07 |
| ricolin | you can check the full log here in previous | 15:07 |
| ricolin | link | 15:07 |
| ricolin | on the other hand Artem and stephenfin do push some place forward | 15:08 |
| gmann | +1 | 15:08 |
| gmann | may be it will be good to recheck those in my pain point discussions and then we can think of goal ? | 15:09 |
| * mnaser is around | 15:09 | |
| ricolin | gmann, we can run through it in pain point meeting or in next TC meeting | 15:10 |
| gmann | yeah, let's continue in pain point discussion | 15:10 |
| ricolin | +1 | 15:11 |
| gmann | thanks ricolin for checking on that. | 15:11 |
| gmann | gmann to reach out to ianychoi[m] for SIG i18n status and then call for help on ML | 15:11 |
| gmann | I sent email to Ian but no response yet | 15:12 |
| ricolin | I can help to reach out to him if you need | 15:12 |
| gmann | ricolin: thanks | 15:12 |
| gmann | we can wait for Jan first week also in case he is on leave | 15:12 |
| gmann | moving to next topic | 15:13 |
| ricolin | he's child just born in Septmember, so I guess he's quite busy recently:) | 15:13 |
| gmann | ah, nice. | 15:13 |
| gmann | #topic Gate health check | 15:14 |
| gmann | stable/train for tempest plugin are broken | 15:14 |
| gmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-December/026405.html | 15:14 |
| gmann | revert which will unblock gate is approved #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/822678 | 15:15 |
| gmann | any other gate failure to discuss ? | 15:16 |
| gmann | fedora job failing as frickler mentioned in qa and neutron channel but need to wait for redhat people to look into it. I thnk some from neutron and martin will check it | 15:17 |
| gmann | nothing else I have seen in this week | 15:17 |
| gmann | let's move next | 15:18 |
| gmann | #topic SIG i18n status check | 15:18 |
| gmann | we already discussed about it, I will keep it in agenda until we get resp from ianychoi[m] | 15:19 |
| gmann | #topic Adjutant need PTLs and maintainers | 15:20 |
| gmann | same on this. still waiting the response | 15:21 |
| gmann | #topic Open Reviews | 15:21 |
| gmann | three open reviews #link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open | 15:21 |
| gmann | I forgot to verify it for my comments #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/810037 | 15:22 |
| gmann | I will do right after meeting | 15:22 |
| gmann | and this one also ready to review from TC side, I will say waiting for review #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/816587 | 15:23 |
| gmann | that is all from agenda | 15:23 |
| gmann | about next meeting, as per tc-members availability we can cancel the 30th dec (next week) meeting if no objection ? | 15:23 |
| gmann | I will be around in case anything comes up | 15:23 |
| yoctozepto | well, that went quick! | 15:23 |
| yoctozepto | ok for cancelling | 15:24 |
| gmann | ricolin: diablo_rojo mnaser ? | 15:25 |
| mnaser | ok by me | 15:25 |
| ricolin | +1 | 15:25 |
| diablo_rojo | I would vote we cancel that one | 15:26 |
| gmann | ok, next meeting is canceled, I will send on ML. and we will meet on 6th Jan in Video meeting. | 15:26 |
| diablo_rojo | At least I wont be here lol | 15:26 |
| gmann | that is all from my side today | 15:26 |
| diablo_rojo | Short and sweet today | 15:26 |
| gmann | anything else to discuss ? | 15:26 |
| gmann | yeah | 15:26 |
| fungi | a big welcome to the skyline team! | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | and Merry Christmas to everyone :-) | 15:27 |
| ricolin | gmann, BTW, just got reply from ianychoi[m] | 15:27 |
| gmann | yeah, fungi I have added project rename in opendev meeitng agenda please check | 15:27 |
| gmann | ricolin: ok | 15:27 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: you too | 15:27 |
| fungi | gmann: thanks, the next opendev meeting will be january 4 | 15:27 |
| fungi | we'll make sure to cover planning for a rename maintenance then | 15:28 |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Upcoming_Project_Renames | 15:28 |
| gmann | fungi: thanks. | 15:28 |
| gmann | ricolin: any update from ianychoi[m] just in case or we can discuss in next meeting? | 15:30 |
| ricolin | He is currently really busy with his now born child, will check with him to see if he can comes out with something | 15:31 |
| gmann | yeah, no urgency. I thought you want to update as got response | 15:31 |
| gmann | let's close today meeting if nothing else | 15:31 |
| gmann | thanks everyone for joining. | 15:32 |
| gmann | Merry Christmas and Happy new Year to everyone and stay safe. | 15:32 |
| ricolin | gmann, I thing he is not gonna be available for this month | 15:32 |
| ricolin | Merry Christmas everyone!:) | 15:32 |
| gmann | ricolin: ack | 15:32 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 15:32 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Dec 23 15:32:51 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:32 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-12-23-15.00.html | 15:32 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-12-23-15.00.txt | 15:32 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-12-23-15.00.log.html | 15:32 |
| diablo_rojo | Happy Holidays! | 15:32 |
| fungi | looks like ianychoi[m] has replied on openstack-discuss in the last few minutes | 15:53 |
| ianychoi[m] | Thank u for pinging fungi on irc - my favorite world | 15:56 |
| fungi | ;) | 15:56 |
| gmann | ianychoi[m]: thanks for response, once you are back from leave we can discuss on plan on how to get more volunteer in this SIG | 15:57 |
| gmann | ianychoi[m]: and congratulation on new born. | 15:58 |
| fungi | we should also (re)start discussions about moving off zanata (possibly to weblate) | 15:58 |
| ianychoi[m] | gmann: Thanks a lot! Yes fungi I can comment more later considering the complexity of management | 15:59 |
| ianychoi[m] | I also hear translation management issues from K8s Docs L10n - Korean team. | 16:00 |
| ianychoi[m] | Appreciate your understanding on current I18n issues.. will get back :) | 16:01 |
| fungi | sounds good. to be clear i'm less concerned by the complexity of managing zanata (though that does sound like something to take into account), more about the fact that it's been abandoned by its developers for years now and has known security vulnerabilities we've been maintaining workarounds to mitigate | 16:01 |
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| ianychoi[m] | Ah agree with that - not sure in detail versions of Wildfly with which log4j version might have been using.. | 16:02 |
| fungi | that's not actually a problem, the vulnerabilities i'm talking about were discovered years ago | 16:03 |
| fungi | red hat (strongly) encouraged us to pick zanata, then soon after we'd finished migrating to it announced they were discontinuing it | 16:03 |
| ianychoi[m] | Yeah just I took an example - completely agree with your raising | 16:03 |
| fungi | but the work involved in moving off it is substantial, which is why it hasn't happened | 16:04 |
| fungi | but yes, on log4j specifically, we did investigate what's deployed in wildfly there and it should not be affected by the known log4j vulnerabilities | 16:04 |
| fungi | though confirming that was rather a lot of work | 16:05 |
| ianychoi[m] | I believe that was great decision at that time - no one here anticipated Zanata’s discontinued. | 16:06 |
| gmann | and rather we can ask for help from more local user group needing translation | 16:07 |
| ianychoi[m] | Oh.. thank u I don’t want such situation - lots of work is needed just due to maintain less favorite system.. | 16:09 |
| gmann | anyways let's discuss next month after holiday | 16:10 |
| ianychoi[m] | Thank u | 16:14 |
| ttx | FYI I fixed the OpenStack entry on Core Infrastructure Initiative systems so that we get the "Best practices" badge again! https://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/en/projects/246 | 17:18 |
| ttx | (they changed the rules and we got a 99%, but I managed to wrangle enough access to that entry to fix it) | 17:18 |
| ttx | Note: they introduced two advanced levels (Silver and Gold) which we might want to strive towards. Like we would need to implement Bandit all over :) | 17:18 |
| fungi | sounds great to me | 17:55 |
| fungi | thanks for fixing it up! | 17:55 |
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| gmann | thanks ttx for fixing and updates. +1 | 17:57 |
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