| ttx | gmann: done | 07:34 |
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| gmann | thanks again ttx | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | gmann: knikolla: we were talking about the winstackers situation in the cinder meeting today, and someone suggested reaching out to Microsoft | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | i don't know if it's still the case, but for a while i think they were Foundation members (not sure what level, though) | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | so maybe someone at the Foundation could suggest a contact person | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | Microsoft should have an interest in openstack-on-windows, you'd think | 14:59 |
| gmann | rosmaita: this is good idea. microsoft is platinum member but not sure what is there goal/plan for maintaining the source code. | 15:12 |
| gmann | I have heard that a few other open source team (other than OpenInfra project) shrinking in microsoft | 15:13 |
| rosmaita | gmann: i have to give Simon Dodsley at Pure Storage credit | 15:13 |
| gmann | but I think it is good idea to check with them. | 15:13 |
| rosmaita | i don't know that they'd have to do much coding ... key thing would be to maintain the CI on windows | 15:15 |
| gmann | rosmaita: not sure about cinder policy but in Nova hyperV driver needs to be gone if no maintainer. CI is yes one of the condition to have it running | 15:16 |
| gmann | aprice: what way you suggest on connecting with Microsoft for 'keeping window-support in OpenStack' discussion? For background, Cloudbase is moved away from OpenStack and no one else to maintain window support in OpenStack. We want to reachout to all possible org/member who might be interested/using the window support. https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-November/031044.html | 15:17 |
| rosmaita | gmann: in cinder, we mark them as 'unsupported' (so operators have to explicitly enable them in config and are aware), but don't remove them unless they start breaking the normal CI | 15:18 |
| gmann | rosmaita: yeah, In Nova also if it is failing or no maintainers then we deprecate and mark as 'remove in future' example https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/863910 | 15:19 |
| gmann | that is why I feel it is CI + maintainers to keep code active/running not just CI | 15:19 |
| rosmaita | Lucien was really good about noticing when we did something in cinder that inadvertently broke on windows, and putting up a patch | 15:20 |
| rosmaita | but he didn't have to do it very often | 15:21 |
| dansmith | I surely hope that if they do care they would have noticed and said something by now | 15:21 |
| dansmith | so I'm not sure what that means for my hope about their response, but it's definitely a good avenue to explore before pulling the plug :) | 15:22 |
| knikolla | gmann: Agree on reaching out to foundation staff to find the best way to engage Microsoft on this | 15:22 |
| gmann | checking with aprice otherwise I can try to discuss in Board also where we will have Microsoft representative there. | 15:23 |
| aprice[m] | Gmann: I am out this week but can connect on it next week. Of it’s urgent, I suggest pulling in ttx | 17:32 |
| gmann | aprice[m]: thanks, we are not taking 'window-support retirement' decision until June event so it is ok to talk next week. | 17:34 |
| aprice[m] | Ack | 17:35 |
| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Add missing governance-sigs repo in technical-committee-repos.yaml https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/880237 | 19:31 |
| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Correct the old deprecated policies removal timeline for SLURP release https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/880238 | 19:47 |
| gmann | dansmith: slaweq: rosmaita: ^^ updating the RBAC timeline for old rule removal considering the SLURP releases | 19:47 |
| rosmaita | gmann: ack | 19:48 |
| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Correct the old deprecated policies removal timeline for SLURP release https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/880238 | 20:07 |
| gmann | dansmith: ^^ update those grammar things | 20:08 |
| gmann | tc-members: adding all TC owned repo (especially doc repo) in the gerritbot tc channel so that we get notify for incoming review of those repo. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/880235 | 20:10 |
| gmann | for those doc repo etc we do not need motion and can be review/merged as per two +2 rule and any tc member can merge them. | 20:10 |
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