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| jamespage | JayF - hey sending my apologies for todays TC meeting - full of cold and flagging badly so going to skip today | 16:03 |
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| jamespage | wiki updated to that effect | 16:03 |
| JayF | please, perform self-care, go away and don't worry about us | 16:03 |
| JayF | recover quickly! | 16:03 |
| JayF | tc-members: meeting in 52 minutes in Zoom: https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87108541765?pwd=emlXVXg4QUxrUTlLNDZ2TTllWUM3Zz09 | 17:08 |
| spotz[m] | Thanks for posting the link JayF :) | 17:51 |
| JayF | #startmeeting tc | 18:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Tue Oct 3 18:00:49 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is JayF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'tc' | 18:00 |
| JayF | #info Today's meeting is being held primarily via video call. Action items and meeting minutes will be documented in IRC but for a full replay of the meeting, please visit the OpenStack TC youtube channel, where the recording will be uploaded soon. | 18:00 |
| JayF | #link https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBuGwBXOmWHydSE09RM84wQ | 18:01 |
| JayF | Welcome to the weekly meeting of the OpenStack Technical Committee. A reminder that this meeting is held under the OpenInfra Code of Conduct available at https://openinfra.dev/legal/code-of-conduct. | 18:01 |
| JayF | Today's meeting agenda can be found at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee. | 18:01 |
| JayF | #topic Roll Call | 18:01 |
| dansmith | o/ | 18:01 |
| knikolla | o/ | 18:01 |
| JayF | o/ | 18:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 18:01 |
| slaweq | o/ | 18:01 |
| * slaweq will join zoom call in a minute or two | 18:02 | |
| JayF | we will wait until :05 for you | 18:02 |
| gmann | o/ | 18:03 |
| JayF | #topic Follow up on action items | 18:04 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/2024.1-leaderless | 18:04 |
| JayF | Thanks gmann for following up on that action item. | 18:06 |
| JayF | #action knikolla to complete documentation for unmaintained branch policy in releases.openstack.org; carryover from 2023-09-26 | 18:07 |
| JayF | #info TC will take a agenda item for next meeting around the future of TripleO if/when we retire wallaby under new unmaintained branch policy | 18:12 |
| JayF | #topic Gate Health Check | 18:14 |
| JayF | #info Concerns continue about heavy db usage in keystone; investigation is planned. | 18:17 |
| JayF | #action knikolla (or delegate) by PTG will investigate DB usage patterns in Keystone. Progress to be tracked during intermediate TC meetings. | 18:19 |
| JayF | #action JayF to ensure we have a cross-project performance session at the PTG centered around DB usage patterns; ensure SQLAlchemy and oslo.db maintainers and invested parties are invite. Specific focus on strangely-high query counts from Keystone and Neutron reported during devstack jobs. | 18:25 |
| JayF | #topic Leaderless projects | 18:25 |
| JayF | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/2024.1-leaderless | 18:25 |
| JayF | #action slaweq to propose a patch to openstack/governance for TC consideration to mark monasca inactive | 18:36 |
| JayF | #info Monasca is identified as a project with low (5) user counts, failing gate, and inactive through last cycle. TC to consider marking inactive. | 18:37 |
| JayF | #topic Call for Volunteers for Vice-Chair | 18:37 |
| fungi | JayF: as for what the charter requires, it states that you will *seek* for a vice chair. but no, it doesn't say what happens if nobody volunteers | 18:43 |
| JayF | #action JayF to appoint rosmaita as vice chair | 18:44 |
| fungi | "The elected TC chair will seek another TC member to volunteer to serve as vice chair until the next chair election is held." | 18:44 |
| JayF | #info Other interested parties are still welcome to volunteer as an additional vice-chair to learn about chair duties. | 18:44 |
| JayF | #topic Open Discussion and Reviews | 18:45 |
| JayF | #info Proposed times & Topics for TC PTG sessions are in https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-ptg-october-2023 | 18:48 |
| JayF | Will email about ^ that after the TC. | 18:48 |
| JayF | #action spotz[m] to take ownership of planning Operator Hour sessions for vPTG | 18:51 |
| JayF | spotz[m]: I think for practical purposes it might have been aprice who had an etherpad with times/etherpads for the operator hours that was sent out afterwards? | 18:53 |
| clarkb | one thing Iv'e thought may be helpful is prompting the folks you want to participate (in this case operators) with a specific task or interaction you want from them | 18:54 |
| JayF | spotz[m]: looks like https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-September/030301.html is from last year | 18:54 |
| clarkb | "bring a bug. we'll triage it together than pair you with a developer so that you can work together to fix it" | 18:54 |
| fungi | not wanting to interrupt, but the ptg coordinators are talking about switching to jitsi-meet by default | 18:58 |
| JayF | nice! | 18:58 |
| fungi | the main concern is that announcing it this close to the event would be disruptive for some teams | 18:59 |
| JayF | Yeah it probably would be; but it's nice to see the technology is to that point. | 18:59 |
| fungi | and there are some changes needed to ptgbot to make that just a magical default | 18:59 |
| fungi | google meet is not accessible in mainland china, as a data point | 19:00 |
| JayF | #action JayF to see upsides/downsides to proposing jitsi-meet as technology for TC video meetings | 19:02 |
| JayF | #endmeeting | 19:04 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Tue Oct 3 19:04:13 2023 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:04 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2023/tc.2023-10-03-18.00.html | 19:04 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2023/tc.2023-10-03-18.00.txt | 19:04 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2023/tc.2023-10-03-18.00.log.html | 19:04 |
| clarkb | JayF: jitsi meet calls the first person who joins the moderator. If you click the participants button on the bottom control panel it brings up a thing on the right with all sorts of controls. You can mut everyone and remove their ability to unmute themselves for example | 19:07 |
| clarkb | you can also set a password to join. Note this password isn't permanent for that url until the end of time. It is just as long as the current call is occuring. Then that name can be reused without a password and a new password can be set | 19:09 |
| JayF | It sounds like there would be a potential for abuse in a system like that of someone parking in the TC meeting room before the scheduled meeting, and (if they were trying to be abusive/trolly) have something offensive on broadcast waiting for folks to join, for instance | 19:11 |
| JayF | In zoom, we have this problem too, but someone with the moderator code can take back over, which is the TC Chair and, in practice, Chairs emeritus (we don't cycle the cred) | 19:12 |
| dansmith | yeah I was going to say.. sounds maybe too ephemeral | 19:12 |
| clarkb | yes it is intended to be easy to use I think. It hasn't bee na problem yet | 19:13 |
| clarkb | we can optiimize for hypotheticals or keep using it until it is an issue and restart the server or whatever in that instance | 19:13 |
| JayF | It's not a deal breaker per se, but it is a data point that I'll make sure to write down :) That's all I'm trying to do is just document how things are | 19:15 |
| spotz[m] | checking with diablo_rojo on how she wants to do the registering then will send the email | 19:15 |
| JayF | Meeting recording is currently uploading to youtube channel. | 19:23 |
| JayF | video is up here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEYyVIKBhVQ | 19:39 |
| JayF | I don't think we put this link anywhere, do we? | 19:39 |
| spotz[m] | I don't think so. | 20:31 |
| spotz[m] | Kendall was planning on mailing the operators out tomorrow and asked me to hold on my email. Either way something is going out tomorrow:) | 20:32 |
| diablo_rojo | Yes and I can probably add mention of the operator hours being added to the schedule. | 20:43 |
| gmann | JayF: posting pink here and ML is enough. thanks | 21:07 |
| opendevreview | Jay Faulkner proposed openstack/governance master: Appoint Brian Rosmaita Vice-Chair for 2024.1 cycle https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/897264 | 22:16 |
| JayF | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/897264 is up to appoint rosmaita to vice-chair; I will merge it tomorrow, once CI passes. | 22:20 |
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