Wednesday, 2025-07-30

ianychoi(Oh working well!!)00:00
sean-k-mooneyjust a delay00:00
sean-k-mooneyalthough a minor one00:00
zigosean-k-mooney: Epoxy DOES work on Trixie.00:34
zigoI was able to validate it 3 weeks ago.00:34
sean-k-mooneyzigo: ack hopefully master does too00:35
sean-k-mooneyi have a work in progress patch to do testing with py1300:35
zigoIssue was innodb_snapshot_pool option, not python 3.13.00:35
sean-k-mooneyi was trying to use pyenv to make that work on ubuntu but i might just pivot that to use trixy00:36
sean-k-mooney*trixie00:36
zigoIt is already in hard freeze, it is a good moment to start using it !00:37
sean-k-mooneyzigo: well i use debian sid as my daily driver on my laptop so i know debian is pretty stabel :)00:37
sean-k-mooneybut soon TM00:37
zigo:-)00:38
sean-k-mooneyzigo: im oging to tidy https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/951749 up and instead of moving nova next to debian 13 ill add a perodic job and exerminatl one00:38
sean-k-mooneythe nova-ovs-hybrid-plug job uses debian 12, so next cycel provied debian ahs not compiled out spice supprot in qemu ill move that to debian 1300:39
sean-k-mooneynova-ovs-hybrid-plug has been perfectly stable with respect to the other jobs at least since we moved it to debian last cycle00:41
zigoFor qemu stuffs, you can ask mjt here in OFTC.00:41
zigoHe's nice and always replies.00:42
sean-k-mooneyack well hopefully they just are not compiling out the defautl feature form upstream00:42
zigoFYI: he is in Moscow (timezone).00:42
sean-k-mooneycanonical and redhat both decied to compile out spice supprot but debian and almalinux both have it00:43
* zigo goes back sleep00:43
sean-k-mooneyi shoudl probaly do the same o/00:44
opendevreviewSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/election master: Sylvain Bauza candidacy for 2026.1 TC membership  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/95613609:08
bauzasgouthamr: as mentioned, that's a premature candidacy ballot given my unavailibility during the nomination period09:12
thuvhhi @gouthamr, I vote +1 for monasca because I can not commit time for maintaining monasca. Then can not keep this project in active without release. Maybe I will pull and push repo to github or gitlab. 10:27
thuvhfor retirement process, what can i do? 10:27
fungiif thuvh is reading the web logs, the process for retiring openstack git repositories is here: https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/repository.html#retiring-a-repository12:55
opendevreviewWesley Hershberger proposed openstack/contributor-guide master: Add stable backports process to "Using Gerrit"  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/contributor-guide/+/95552514:43
opendevreviewWesley Hershberger proposed openstack/contributor-guide master: Add stable backports process to "Using Gerrit"  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/contributor-guide/+/95552515:09
thuvh@fungi: got it, when i shoud start? should i wait anyone?16:27
gmaanthuvh - you can start it any time. Go with the same order of steps as mentioned in doc and we will review the proposal.  16:35
gmaanand in parallel I think gouthamr is planning to send it on ML also (if I remember the yesterday meeting discusison correctly)16:36
gouthamr++ yes16:46
gouthamrthuvh, others: https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/F4XQ7QU2S4WCNOVCGW3ZONI4IYX4KVFW/ 19:05
gouthamri'll track this stuff through https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/monasca-retirement (and https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-2025.2-tracker), any help is welcome thuvh!19:10
sean-k-mooneygouthamr: just a process question. i dont think watcher diretly depend on the repos but it is curently using the last release of the monasca-client20:08
sean-k-mooneywe were going to start the removal in 2026.2 but if its being retired do you think i shoudl accelerate that and do it either this cycle or early 2026.120:09
sean-k-mooneythe time line was mostly driven by the fact we did not deprecate it in 2025.1 so we wre trying to make sure the deprecation happend in a slurp20:10
sean-k-mooneyas i said before we curretnly have 0 zuul jobs testing this and limited unit tests or docs for monsasca integration20:11
sean-k-mooneyat the very least i tihink ti would be prudent to make monascaclient an optional depency to watcher this cycle. so you can install without it if your not using that datasouce20:15
gouthamrhi sean-k-mooney: watcher team can decide and proceed as you see fit I think, if there’re no volunteers to drive Monasca - the git repos will be nullified, but all working versions that are out could still be used and tinkered with locally20:15
gouthamryeah that makes sense alongside deprecation20:15
sean-k-mooneywaht i want to do be beofre the next ptg is start a mailing list trhead ot see if we can get any user feedback for what backend people actuly use20:16
sean-k-mooneygouthamr: is there an openstack survey in the next few months?20:16
fungithis user survey round is wrapping up soon20:17
fungiit runs continuously but analytics are batched to once a cycle i think20:17
gouthamryes, August 30th20:17
sean-k-mooneyas so too late to ask "of those who use watcher what metrics data souces do you use"20:18
fungimay not be too late to get it added for the coming refresh of questions20:18
gouthamryes, it is for this survey, but, please do add it to the 2026 User Survey; when we are ready, aprice or Helena will send an email to openstack-discuss asking us to refresh any questions20:19
sean-k-mooneyits somethign to think about i guess anyway im going to call it an evening o/20:19
gouthamrack, thanks for checking!20:20
opendevreviewGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/governance master: Define "affiliation" within the context of the TC  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/95602423:06

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