Wednesday, 2025-08-13

opendevreviewMerged openstack/governance master: Freezer - remove information about Disaster Recovery  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/94189304:46
opendevreviewGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/governance master: Define testing runtime for 2026.1 release  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/95719905:13
fricklergouthamr: how is the timing for the DPL resets meant to proceed? will they be performed in time to still allow PTL nominations? or shall they automatically lead to assignment-needed projects?06:36
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mnasiadkaI would assume these resets should be either abandoned or merged before the PTL nomination period, but if these are not, then it's sort of a race?11:58
opendevreviewIan Y. Choi proposed openstack/election master: Reflect template and scripts with OIF  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/95680712:17
fricklermnasiadka: did you mean before the nomination period ends? we're already halfway through it12:53
mnasiadkafrickler: Ideally we should give time to people wanting to propose themselves as PTLs in case the whole DPL team is not responding12:54
mnasiadkaAnd in this scenario - it's kind of a last minute thing12:54
opendevreviewribaudr proposed openstack/election master: Adding René Ribaud candidacy for Nova 2026.1 PTL  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/95724013:39
gmaanfrickler: mnasiadka ideally it should be done before nomination start but resetting it before nomination end is also not so bad. In case we need to move any project from DPL to PTL, we can add project in election explicitly15:47
gmaanbut we should have answer/respons from projects on gerrit by now. I know watcher is planning to continue and sean-k-mooney is prospoing to continue DPL with latest laaison list15:48
gmaanironic already confirmed 15:48
gmaanrelease team did15:49
gmaanrequirement and oslo are the only two and waiting for single liaison (other responded to continue DPL)15:50
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sean-k-mooneyya technially we will make that dession in the irc meeting tomrrow but that is our curent plan stay with DPL for the forseeable future16:01
gmaan++16:50
gouthamrperfect, so watcher would be sorted.. the rest are mostly there too, i was hoping to get prometheanfire to ack the requirements change (https://review.opendev.org/956915), damani to ack oslo's (https://review.opendev.org/956912)17:56
gouthamrmnasiadka: i need to add this DPL reset check point to my own tracker.. i was coming off of a PTO to a ton of open threads, and lost track of this one... i agree that others may consider contesting for PTL positions if it was done before the nomination period..17:57
sean-k-mooneygouthamr: the only thing really out standing for watcher is we will need a new tc liason17:57
gouthamr that said, DPL needs more communication about project leadership than the traditional PTL one - i.e., existing liaisons must decide on the fate each cycle, recruit/nominate new liaisons etc. 17:57
sean-k-mooneygouthamr: ya that why i orgianlly didnt want the overehad cause by reseting it each cycle17:58
gouthamrack sean-k-mooney, we can do that as a separate change17:58
mnasiadkagouthamr: it doesn’t need to be always you, we should have some defined calendar for such things and just have checking that on the meeting agenda, just like some projects have docs what to do near release time17:58
sean-k-mooneygouthamr: part of the reason we select dpl in teh first palce was to not need to od that17:58
gouthamrsean-k-mooney: i know, but we debated this in the past - we ran the risk of liaisons stepping away and the project suffering :( so this forced reset, although painful, is our hope that we can get people talking and thinking about this 17:59
sean-k-mooneyya i dont think process helps with that problem personlaly18:00
sean-k-mooneymnasiadka: one option would be to make doign the reset and reposoal the responiblity fo the current release liason18:00
gouthamrsean-k-mooney: for one, it helped navigate the issue with the original watcher maintainers during the last release18:00
sean-k-mooneyi.e. just make this part of the release duties (where there isnt a ptl)18:00
gouthamrmnasiadka: ack, let me think about this.. maybe we could make this part of regular election scheduling (not the reset responsibility, just the check point) 18:02
gmaangouthamr: mnasiadka we added DPL model reset task in chair responsibiliuty in case we forget but yes, chair is just to remind tc-member to do that https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/tc-chair-responsibilities.html#each-cycle18:18
gmaan"Ensure the project’s DPL model is reset before election nomination start."18:18
mnasiadkaThanks for the explanation, maybe it’s working, just a bit slow :-)18:23
prometheanfiregouthamr: got it19:15
gmaan++19:18
gmaanwe only need to reachout to damani  for oslo and we are good on rest 19:18
gmaangouthamr: left some comment about order of depends-on on monasca retirement change, i have not checked other but if those also needs to be changed then that comment applies to them also https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/monasca-api/+/957064/1//COMMIT_MSG#1319:19
gmaanor you can update them once project-config change (noop jobs) is merged so that they would not run the zuul 19:20
gouthamrack ty gmaan20:07
gmaanbecause in current order, it is cirucular dependency where repo content removal depends-on governance change which will not pass gate until repo content is removed20:08
opendevreviewMerged openstack/election master: Add Ivan Anfimov candidacy for Horizon PTL  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/95669822:13
opendevreviewMerged openstack/election master: Add Hongbin Lu candidacy for Zun PTL  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/95698222:16
opendevreviewMerged openstack/election master: Add Tatiana Ovchinnikova candidacy for Horizon 2026.1 PTL  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/95704922:38
opendevreviewMerged openstack/election master: Add Vladimir Kozhukalov candidacy for Openstack-Helm 2026.1 PTL  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/95704622:38
opendevreviewMerged openstack/election master: Add Hao Wang candidacy for Zaqar 2026.1 PTL  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/95703522:42
opendevreviewMerged openstack/election master: Adding Omer Schwartz for Designate 2026.1 PTL  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/95701222:42
opendevreviewMerged openstack/election master: Adding wu.wenxiang candidacy for skyline  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/95715222:42
opendevreviewMerged openstack/election master: Add Jon Bernard candidacy for Cinder PTL  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/95682622:45

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