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| mnasiadka | spotz[m]: ack, haven’t found a mail clearly stating what is the decision is - but we’ll drop RDO usage in Kolla anyway | 17:14 |
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| gouthamr | tc-members: can i have some more eyes on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/958085 | 18:30 |
| spotz[m] | I know we said it somewhere:( I'll try to look but I'm in the middle of cat herding right now | 18:30 |
| mnasiadka | spotz[m]: no worries, thanks for help :) | 18:48 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/governance master: Use DPL model for watcher project leadership for 2026.1 release https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/958085 | 19:01 |
| sean-k-mooney | ^ explains where my release laison power wenet but its fine. i was just expecting that to merge after RC1 | 20:43 |
| sean-k-mooney | mnasiadka: i was asking a similer quest on the qa channel about RDOs future | 20:44 |
| sean-k-mooney | and effectivly what to use in devstack instead if it does not contineu | 20:44 |
| sean-k-mooney | mnasiadka: are ye going to just build debian/ubuntu images going forward or have you found alternitive repos for all the packages that came form rdo | 20:45 |
| mnasiadka | sean-k-mooney: all of the packages we need are in epel (and centos sig repos) - so we will still support centos/rocky | 20:47 |
| sean-k-mooney | ack. depening on if there are offical release fo 2025.2 i was thinking of trying to deploy devstack with RDO disabled on rocky or c10s and see how far it can get | 20:49 |
| JayF | Y'all shutting down RDO? | 20:49 |
| sean-k-mooney | i dont know what the offial RDO comunity message is | 20:50 |
| JayF | well, no message at all to openstack-discuss :D | 20:50 |
| sean-k-mooney | but thre have nto been any really contributore form redhat workign on it for 6+ months | 20:50 |
| JayF | It would've been nice to loop in upstream openstack on that earlier, I don't depend on those but others do | 20:51 |
| sean-k-mooney | the folks taht are still active are not really working on it as part of there day job anymore | 20:51 |
| sean-k-mooney | well the "RDO Epoxy 2025.1 Release - Important Note at Bottom" mail on may first | 20:51 |
| sean-k-mooney | mentions that there are no real maintianers | 20:52 |
| sean-k-mooney | https://www.rdoproject.org/community/#the-next-release-cycle | 20:52 |
| sean-k-mooney | its the same as the Important Note in that page | 20:52 |
| JayF | Yeah, I saw that when I was looking to see if I missed the announcement | 20:52 |
| sean-k-mooney | there has not been any that im aware of | 20:52 |
| sean-k-mooney | basicly the light are on but there is very very little activety in rdo right now | 20:53 |
| sean-k-mooney | i have been poking at this topic on and off for a year or so but never got an answer | 20:55 |
| sean-k-mooney | which is sort of an answer in a way | 20:55 |
| JayF | It's not a good look for the community to sorta drift away without a good endpoint, but I know you are not personally at fault for any of that. | 20:57 |
| sean-k-mooney | if im totally honest i have never really consiered myself part fo the rdo comunity which is partly why i dont wat to try an speak on there behlaf | 21:16 |
| sean-k-mooney | i have doen a hand full of patches there but very very minimal | 21:17 |
| clarkb | looking at https://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos9-master/delorean-deps.repo I suspect hte main things devstack currently relies on from RDO are ovs, rabbitmq, and possibly ceph though I think sean-k-mooney did a quick check and ceph comes from elsewhere | 23:16 |
| clarkb | its possible that with the switch to ovn we can just stop testing ovs on those platforms (assuming ovn is available from elsewhere). That leaves rabbitmq which appears to publish their own rpm packages which could potentially be used instead | 23:18 |
| clarkb | collectd is also listed in there but I don't think devstack uses it | 23:18 |
| opendevreview | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/governance master: Mark "Migrate from wsgi scripts" goal as completed https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/958817 | 23:20 |
| clarkb | also potentially tools like rabbitmq could be run from containers | 23:20 |
| clarkb | I think there are options here, but it is likely that they will require effort to keep the devstack centos jobs alive if the rdo packages go away or become stale | 23:21 |
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