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| JayF | fungi: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/984159/2#message-26453fd243e1d7bb6bf63b27e0681ddfc5093b58 is that sufficient? | 16:25 |
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| fungi | JayF: i was hoping to get some confirmation from ironic's tact sig liaison or team consensus record (e.g. agreement in a meeting) that says something like "let's retire the virtualpdu project now" | 16:28 |
| fungi | basically something indicating the team has decided to do that, but i guess if there's no meeting where it was discussed and the liaison is on an extended absence and it's urgent, i can assume based on other factors | 16:30 |
| gouthamr | think they posted to the ML? | 16:37 |
| gouthamr | https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/BLIRR5YCMYGODA4L7JEJO3OF74GH3ARA/ | 16:37 |
| fungi | that works well enough as an announcement, and it's still reversible at this point, so i guess if there's an objection we can still revert fairly easily | 16:41 |
| JayF | I was in a meeting; this was discussed at the Ironic meeting on Monday where lots of cores were chiming in on the logistics of getting it done | 17:17 |
| JayF | unsure we have a specific decision point for virtualpdu; it's sole purpose was CI infra for the driver we've already killed | 17:18 |
| fungi | makes sense, we just usually want the ptl or tact sig liaison to officially weigh in on openstack project changes in opendev, as representatives of their respective teams' consensus decisions | 17:25 |
| JayF | yeah, it is weird for Ironic because I think we use DPL as just "pool of leadership people who are almost always in communication" ... liason designations are just for show more or less | 17:26 |
| JayF | that's not your problem tho :) | 17:27 |
| fungi | right, i just need to know who has the authority to say ironic is retiring virtualpdu, for example | 17:33 |
| fungi | without knowing the intricacies of team structures for 40+ different openstack teams | 17:35 |
| JayF | Yeah, that being said, it'd be a pretty impressive event for a core to go rogue retiring things | 17:36 |
| * JayF waits for the "back in 2015.... [story]" | 17:37 | |
| fungi | well, even what "core reviewer" means varies from team to team, and isn't enshrined in any official governance reference | 17:39 |
| fungi | so it can be challenging for me to even confirm whether someone's a core reviewer for a team (just having voting rights on a particular repository may not be the same thing) | 17:41 |
| JayF | that's a good point | 17:41 |
| JayF | although I would've preferred storytime with Jeremy :D | 17:41 |
| fungi | it's less about being safe against maliciousness and more about trying to make sure the right people are looped in to catch mistakes. we've definitely had people retire the wrong repos before, or retire them before the team was ready for it to happen, et cetera | 17:43 |
| JayF | you kept me from accidentally-retiring inspector when I needed to deprecate it instead for instance :P | 17:44 |
| opendevreview | cid proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Mark VirtualPDU as retired https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-manuals/+/988672 | 18:15 |
| opendevreview | cid proposed openstack/governance master: [EOL]: Retire VirtualPDU https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/984545 | 18:54 |
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