Friday, 2026-06-19

opendevreviewGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/governance master: Establish Contributor Experience Working Group  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/99404605:19
fricklertc-members: I've added the topic "Dealing with alien zuul config errors in the openstack tenant" to the opendev meeting agenda, but I think it is relevant to this group, too11:06
fricklerthe question essentially is "how much cooperation and contributions can we expect from other projects that are happily using our CI infrastructure, what action can we take if don't behave like good citizens (at least IMHO)"11:08
fricklerand for me the issue is mainly the conflated use of the "openstack" tenant in zuul for historical reasons, I don't care quite as much about isolated other tenants11:09
fungiessentially, moving the openstack projects to their own tenant was going to be too involved, so we named the original tenant "openstack" rather than something like "generic" or "default" but as a result, most projects that have been around since before multi-tenant zuul are sharing it13:08
frickleryes, that's the historic reason for the current situation, but I'm questioning whether we (in particular we the OpenStack community) need to live with that forever13:18
fungimoving openstack to a dedicated tenant could probably be done as a staged effort, but there are still a lot of non-openstack projects relying on jobs defined in openstack repositories that would need to be untangled13:28
mnasiadkaSounds like a non-trivial effort13:31
fungiin opendev we've long wanted to break our own jobs and repos away from the openstack tenant and have moved some that were already reasonably isolated, but still have a lot that would be harder to split out13:36

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