| opendevreview | Wu Wenxiang proposed openstack/governance master: Seed security liaison data from VMT wiki https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/996563 | 01:59 |
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| opendevreview | Wu Wenxiang proposed openstack/governance master: Seed security liaison data from VMT wiki https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/996563 | 02:01 |
| opendevreview | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/security-doc master: OSSN-0102: Neutron sub-resource parent ownership https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/security-doc/+/996209 | 17:46 |
| gouthamr | happy friday tc-members: | 22:17 |
| gouthamr | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/988896 | 22:17 |
| gouthamr | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/993696 | 22:17 |
| gouthamr | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/995834 | 22:17 |
| gouthamr | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/990124 | 22:17 |
| gouthamr | all need votes; and i'm hoping to merge them on monday. Some of them won't merge unless we meet at least 2/3rd of the TC. BUT, i'd generally like more than that, please. If you abstain.. please say so on the change.. | 22:17 |
| fungi | the risc-v folks will be thrilled if 988896 merges | 22:18 |
| gouthamr | ++ | 22:20 |
| fungi | a tc member reply to their mailing list thread would be most welcome too, i'm sure: https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/UK2YYNPXC3BGZM3IWHYM6XYNQXHPD57C/ | 22:20 |
| cardoe | So telemetry links to wiki where it has the same data as the PR but different people | 22:21 |
| cardoe | Listed | 22:21 |
| gouthamr | ah! Ignore the wiki for now.. we’ll retire it once we transfer all the data | 22:24 |
| gouthamr | (can already be done for release) | 22:24 |
| cardoe | Friday at after 5pm got free -1s all around. | 22:25 |
| fungi | ah cool, i was looking at the release liaison change for telemetry which didn't mention a wiki and was confused by the comment | 22:25 |
| fungi | oh, existing wiki link not being removed in projects.yaml, now i get it | 22:26 |
| gouthamr | I misinterpreted that too | 22:26 |
| cardoe | However we wanna slice it. The data contradicts. | 22:27 |
| fungi | so the concern with 995834 is that the release liaison is being updated in governance but has not been updated in the wiki article also linked from their priject entry as the project's "url" | 22:27 |
| gouthamr | Good call out - that’s a project doc concern.. but, the governance repo matters to our tooling, the wiki doesn’t | 22:28 |
| gouthamr | it’s just good hygiene to match it or just link to the same place | 22:28 |
| fungi | so ultimately the projects should clean up redundant/outdated liaison references elsewhere | 22:28 |
| cardoe | Yeah but they are requesting the governance change. They should have their project info in order when coming to governance. | 22:28 |
| gouthamr | ack I see that argument :D hopefully they’ll address your comment.. we promised to be expedient about these changes | 22:29 |
| fungi | though their project entry refers to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Telemetry which doesn't seem to mention liaisons | 22:29 |
| cardoe | I'm happy to change my vote at anytime. | 22:30 |
| cardoe | If I'm being too much of a grumpy person today you can tell me. | 22:30 |
| cardoe | TheJulia will throw something at me. | 22:30 |
| fungi | i don't think it's grumpy per se, i'm just struggling to find the reference you're looking at | 22:31 |
| fungi | am i reading the wrong wiki page? | 22:31 |
| cardoe | okay it doesn't have the release liaison. It's the PTL. I will change my vote. | 22:32 |
| fungi | the end of the page mentions a ptl, a couple of core reviewers and some contributors, which granted all seem very outdated | 22:32 |
| fungi | the page history indicates it was last edited in 2021, fwiw | 22:33 |
| cardoe | You're coming to governance with outdated data is all I'm saying. | 22:34 |
| fungi | yeah, they should be keeping that stuff fresh if it's referenced in governance, i concur | 22:34 |
| fungi | if it were me, i'd strip any leadership references out of the wiki article and link to the relevant page on the governance site, but see also not touched for ~5.5 years | 22:38 |
| TheJulia | cardoe: your not grumpy, besides im all out of wet cats. | 22:43 |
| TheJulia | (Not that I ever would, I would wrap them them in a towel and provide appropriate scritches) | 22:44 |
| TheJulia | fungi: ++ | 22:44 |
| cardoe | fungi: that's exactly what my suggestion was | 22:45 |
| cardoe | I'm happy to action on leadership changes in the governance repo quickly. | 22:46 |
| TheJulia | I have long wondered if we should have a coordinated “scrub the wiki” | 22:53 |
| gouthamr | yeah a lot of the wiki links should be actual doc links :) would be in support of that change, cardoe | 22:56 |
| gouthamr | TheJulia: such a scrub could overwhelm the wiki 😅 | 22:56 |
| cardoe | One of the things we've talked about is having projects keep their paperwork up to date. This is one way we push them to do that. | 22:57 |
| gouthamr | in the desert, is that how cats keep cool? | 22:57 |
| cardoe | They're wanting us to update the governance repo, okay fine but get your paperwork in order. | 22:57 |
| cardoe | I'm not saying I'm the DMV... | 22:57 |
| TheJulia | That would be pure evil. | 22:57 |
| gouthamr | agreed, can come as a separate effort :) it’s one of the find-complain-fix cycles | 22:57 |
| cardoe | But take this form and fill it out in triplicate and come back next Tuesday 3 hours and 4 minutes after you first came. | 22:58 |
| TheJulia | lol | 22:58 |
| gouthamr | oh wait, I’ve a planned time off that day | 22:58 |
| TheJulia | Bye! | 22:58 |
| TheJulia | I’m waiting in line for a resturant to open…. So it’s time to call it in about 2 minutes | 22:59 |
| gouthamr | w00t, cheers 🍻 | 22:59 |
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