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openstackgerrit | Hanxi Liu proposed openstack/ceilometer: Fix the link pages of plugin doc https://review.openstack.org/375932 | 00:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Shengping Zhang proposed openstack/gnocchi: remove the pandas module in test test_carbonara.py https://review.openstack.org/375373 | 02:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Cao Xuan Hoang proposed openstack/ceilometer: Using assertIsNone() instead of assertIs(None) https://review.openstack.org/376097 | 03:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: test/debug https://review.openstack.org/376231 | 07:06 |
openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: test/debug https://review.openstack.org/376231 | 07:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: tox: shorter envdir name for upgrade target https://review.openstack.org/376247 | 07:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add autoscaling scenario in tempest tests https://review.openstack.org/304500 | 07:42 |
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sileht | last cython breaks cradox ... | 07:51 |
openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed openstack/ceilometer: Clean the deprecated non-metric related code https://review.openstack.org/345837 | 07:51 |
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openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Add oslo.i18n support https://review.openstack.org/368920 | 08:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Nam Nguyen Hoai proposed openstack/ceilometer: Using assertIsNone() instead of assertIs(None) https://review.openstack.org/376286 | 08:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add autoscaling scenario in tempest tests https://review.openstack.org/304500 | 08:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Hanxi Liu proposed openstack/gnocchi: Delete TODO as get_engine has been added to enginefacade https://review.openstack.org/376391 | 10:54 |
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mewald | hi everyone, I am currently trying to gather information about ceilometer's scalability. There are many rumors out there about ceilometer scaling badly etc etc. Wanted to hear first-hand information. That's why I am here :) Any information is very much appreciated | 13:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gnocchi: remove the pandas module in test test_carbonara.py https://review.openstack.org/375373 | 13:42 |
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gordc | mewald: if someone said here, it scaled, wouldn't that be hearsay as well? :P | 13:47 |
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gordc | mewald: you can only really verify it yourself. my only advice is that: | 13:47 |
gordc | 1) don't use ceilometer storage | 13:48 |
gordc | use gnocchi or some timeseries storage | 13:48 |
gordc | 2) ceilometer (and openstack in general) is heavily reliant on rabbitmq. so you should probably understand that when delpoying. | 13:49 |
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gongysh | julian1, hi | 15:07 |
gongysh | cdent, hi | 15:08 |
gongysh | https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh#L253 | 15:10 |
gongysh | who knows if the gnocchi supports record events? | 15:11 |
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sileht | gongysh, it doesn't 'record' them, it can just use some of them to track when resource are deleted | 15:36 |
yarkot | gordc, jd__ - what would you think of a multi-node developer deployment as a repo item? That is, a configuration with a lot of by-convention deployment defaults, as appropriate for development triage, or most (key) performance testing, minimally configurable (so as to get, say, 80-90% of the configs one would want). Does this make sense? Would you be inclined towards such a proposal? I don't have much deployment experience, so happy | 15:40 |
yarkot | for any comments. It seems like this would be (very?) useful. Would it? | 15:40 |
gordc | yarkot: like adding docs on how to configure the services? | 15:42 |
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yarkot | gordc - that (which we started w/ stevelle a while ago), but more: I would actually like something like (?) an OSA config, with some common variations, so someone could just clone, read docs, make a minimal set of config changes, and "push the button" to make it happen. I've got my vision on performance testing as "usual" part of development | 15:44 |
gongysh | sileht, hi, but the gnocchi client doesn't have that method at all. | 15:46 |
yarkot | Does this kind of thing (say a 3-node setup; a 7-node setup as a couple of defaults) even make developer sense to you? | 15:46 |
yarkot | gordc^ | 15:46 |
sileht | gongysh, Ceilometer uses event to set the ended-at column of an Gnocchi resource | 15:46 |
gordc | yarkot: sort of?lol i like the idea of having multiple node setup guide. | 15:46 |
sileht | gongysh, it doesn't record the raw event | 15:47 |
gordc | i don't know how the "clone, read docs, push button" workflow works though to be honest | 15:47 |
yarkot | I'm thinking if performance checks are to ever become standard part of commit process (for example) there should be some "by convention" defaults that we could even have automatically run (eventually) | 15:47 |
gordc | yarkot: do you mean we'd be adding puppet scripts into the repo or something? | 15:47 |
gongysh | sileht, but the gnocchi client has that method https://github.com/openstack/python-gnocchiclient/blob/master/gnocchiclient/v1/client.py | 15:48 |
yarkot | gordc - first step is: is this interesting path to go: check performance on pull requests; | 15:48 |
gordc | i'd be happy to have some sort of performance check against gnocchi. i don't know how stable performance stuff is in gate but i think it'd be good. | 15:48 |
sileht | gongysh, you don't get me, we DON'T record event in Gnocchi | 15:49 |
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gordc | yarkot: i think we had some rally tests to test GET requests... but that may be agaist ceilometer and not gnocchi. | 15:49 |
yarkot | gordc - second: can we by convention agree on some default deployment tool; e.g. ansible (OSA) - there seem to be so many to choose from, we'd have to be willing to pick by convention | 15:49 |
gongysh | sileht, I want to get you. but https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/dispatcher/gnocchi.py#L520 | 15:50 |
sileht | gongysh, as I already said, we use event to set the ended_at column of a Gnocchi resource... | 15:50 |
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gordc | yarkot: i don't know enough about deployment tools to help you there. | 15:51 |
yarkot | gordc - ok: let me draft up what documentation would be (what's best way to get eyes on that earlier rather than later), and try to include some ansible/OSA config | 15:51 |
gordc | i thought about running as puppet PTL but that was mainly to anger EmilienM | 15:51 |
sileht | gongysh, for example when a instance is deleted, ceilometer catch the event and set in Gnocchi the ended_at column of this instance | 15:51 |
yarkot | ;-) | 15:51 |
gordc | yarkot: i should probably ask, but what's OSA? openstack ansible? | 15:51 |
gongysh | sileht, ok, but the gnocchi seemingly have no resource_update method at all. self._gnocchi.update_resource(resource_type, | 15:51 |
gongysh | resource['id'], | 15:51 |
gongysh | {'ended_at': ended_at}) | 15:51 |
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yarkot | gordc - yes, openstack ansible | 15:52 |
gongysh | sileht, it should be _gnocchi.resource.update(xx) | 15:52 |
EmilienM | gongysh: lol | 15:52 |
EmilienM | err, gordc ^ | 15:53 |
gordc | yarkot: kk, yeah, i mean if that's what you are most comfortable with i wouldn't suggest you do something else. | 15:53 |
EmilienM | you know rabbitmq, that's good enough | 15:53 |
yarkot | and (to keep simple - not puppet) possibly paver for small "by convention" config variations, prior to pushing a button. | 15:53 |
gordc | EmilienM: did i win PTL? | 15:53 |
EmilienM | gordc: yes! | 15:53 |
gordc | EmilienM: yay! | 15:53 |
sileht | gongysh, yes that looks like a bug when we migrate the code from request to Gnocchi client, you can open one in Launchpad and fix it since you seem have already done many investigation | 15:54 |
gordc | yarkot: do you want this all these in another repo? | 15:54 |
gordc | or something to add into exisitng repo? | 15:54 |
sileht | gongysh, this code part looks not enought tested | 15:55 |
yarkot | I was thinking a developer-stack repo .... an ansible set of default developer configurations (need more? do it manually; these are just the major useful ones); maybe paver to flip configs between a few of the "by convention" standards. | 15:55 |
gongysh | sileht, when I set CEILOMETER_BACKEND=gnocchi, the devstack failed | 15:55 |
gongysh | sileht, 016-09-26 15:04:49.368 | ++/opt/stack/ceilometer/devstack/plugin.sh:init_ceilometer:366 /usr/local/bin/ceilometer-upgrade --skip-metering-database --skip-event-database | 15:56 |
gongysh | 2016-09-26 15:04:50.998 | 2016-09-26 15:04:50.997 16370 WARNING oslo_reports.guru_meditation_report [-] Guru meditation now registers SIGUSR1 and SIGUSR2 by default for backward compatibility. SIGUSR1 will no longer be registered in a future release, so please use SIGUSR2 to generate reports. | 15:56 |
gongysh | 2016-09-26 15:04:50.998 | 2016-09-26 15:04:50.998 16370 INFO ceilometer.cmd.storage [-] Skipping metering database upgrade | 15:56 |
gongysh | 2016-09-26 15:04:50.998 | 2016-09-26 15:04:50.998 16370 INFO ceilometer.cmd.storage [-] Skipping event database upgrade | 15:56 |
gordc | yarkot: kk. i like the idea. will help get people started. | 15:56 |
gongysh | 2016-09-26 15:04:50.999 | 2016-09-26 15:04:50.999 16370 DEBUG ceilometer.cmd.storage [-] Upgrading Gnocchi resource types upgrade /opt/stack/ceilometer/ceilometer/cmd/storage.py:59 | 15:56 |
gongysh | 2016-09-26 15:04:51.183 | 2016-09-26 15:04:51.177 16370 CRITICAL ceilometer [-] ConnectFailure: Unable to establish connection to http://192.168.23.33:8041/v1/resource_type/ceph_account | 15:56 |
sileht | gongysh, please use paste.openstack.org ... | 15:56 |
yarkot | gordc - I'm "fresh eyes" so checking if this makes sense to you, jd__... If so, I'll try to lay out for eyes however you suggest, see where we can get it. | 15:56 |
gongysh | sileht, sorry | 15:56 |
sileht | gongysh, you should looke in Gnocchi loks why it doesn't start | 15:57 |
gongysh | sileht, it is at http://paste.openstack.org/show/582974/ | 15:57 |
yarkot | gordc - exactly; maybe help triage non trivial stuff; maybe help automated performance / load testing scenarios (e.g. your talk: You could point people to a config repo, with your config parameters: "Reproduce in your environment, tell me what you saw" --- like that) | 15:57 |
sileht | lkso/logs | 15:58 |
sileht | gongysh, the devstack works for us, we run devstack with Gnocchi in Gate: http://logs.openstack.org/00/304500/13/check/gate-telemetry-dsvm-integration-ceilometer-ubuntu-xenial/f8d4dce/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2016-09-26_13_57_13_302 | 15:59 |
gordc | yarkot: sure. sounds like a good idea to get this information published/centralised. i don't know how useful we are for configuring dependencies like ceph/redis/zk/etc... but we can definitely help explain what all the options/configs are | 15:59 |
yarkot | gordc - ok, I'm going to pursue this. see if I can get something useful in few weeks, commit in ~ month. I'm "fresh meat" so may ask for a _lot_ of help... | 16:01 |
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gordc | yarkot: kk. i'll just give a warning. there's very few dev resources in our community. and some of us may be on holiday before/after summit. but i'll definitely try to help out | 16:02 |
gordc | thanks for looking at this. | 16:02 |
yarkot | sure; thanks. I'm going to try to get something in docs ~2 weeks; commit (with "reasonable defaults" config, even if for starters is just working example) the day before Barcelona. Do you think (from reviewer end) that's doable? | 16:04 |
yarkot | gordc s/commit/merge (from null => first dev-multi node ~commit ;-) ) | 16:06 |
automagically | yarkot: You may also want to have a look at https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_gnocchi and perhaps contribute there | 16:09 |
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gordc | yarkot: maybe? i don't like making false promises | 16:12 |
gordc | automagically: thanks for bringing up link. i knew there was some ansible repo floaitng around | 16:12 |
gordc | automagically: yarkot: you think that's a better target? | 16:13 |
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automagically | I’m biased as I’m part of the OpenStack-Ansible community. That said, if you are looking to get automation around gnocchi installs, we’ve already got some decent stuff | 16:14 |
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yarkot | gordc - not looking for promises, rather sanity check (and what would get in the way) --- that's all... | 16:14 |
yarkot | automagically - thanks; I'll have a look. | 16:14 |
gordc | automagically: yeah, well if we already have base and a community, doesn't really make sense to start fresh. let's start there | 16:15 |
yarkot | agree; thanks - will look / digest; | 16:17 |
stevelle | and gordc yes the rally stuff I saw was against ceilometer. We started to add the gnocchi client to Rally and got one commit merged but it was rather hard getting progress from there. | 16:24 |
gordc | stevelle: :( maybe it's something we can look at in next cycle. | 16:26 |
stevelle | I think during newton rally was looking to iterate on what they had, they might be more open to introducing gnocchi work during ocata | 16:27 |
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openstackgerrit | ianeta hutchinson proposed openstack/ceilometer: Alters rst markup to comply with OpenStack rst guidelines. https://review.openstack.org/376934 | 17:17 |
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openstackgerrit | boden proposed openstack/aodh: Replace retrying with tenacity https://review.openstack.org/367600 | 17:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Jonte Watford proposed openstack/ceilometer: Bad Link: stevedore https://review.openstack.org/377003 | 18:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Jonte Watford proposed openstack/ceilometer: Broken Link: setuptools entry point https://review.openstack.org/377039 | 19:02 |
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openstackgerrit | ianeta hutchinson proposed openstack/ceilometer: Alters rst markup to comply with OpenStack rst guidelines. https://review.openstack.org/376934 | 19:12 |
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