Monday, 2016-09-26

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openstackgerritHanxi Liu proposed openstack/ceilometer: Fix the link pages of plugin doc  https://review.openstack.org/37593200:22
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openstackgerritShengping Zhang proposed openstack/gnocchi: remove the pandas module in test test_carbonara.py  https://review.openstack.org/37537302:54
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openstackgerritCao Xuan Hoang proposed openstack/ceilometer: Using assertIsNone() instead of assertIs(None)  https://review.openstack.org/37609703:23
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: test/debug  https://review.openstack.org/37623107:06
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: test/debug  https://review.openstack.org/37623107:09
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: tox: shorter envdir name for upgrade target  https://review.openstack.org/37624707:34
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add autoscaling scenario in tempest tests  https://review.openstack.org/30450007:42
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silehtlast cython breaks cradox ...07:51
openstackgerritliusheng proposed openstack/ceilometer: Clean the deprecated non-metric related code  https://review.openstack.org/34583707:51
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Add oslo.i18n support  https://review.openstack.org/36892008:07
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openstackgerritNam Nguyen Hoai proposed openstack/ceilometer: Using assertIsNone() instead of assertIs(None)  https://review.openstack.org/37628608:20
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add autoscaling scenario in tempest tests  https://review.openstack.org/30450008:45
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openstackgerritHanxi Liu proposed openstack/gnocchi: Delete TODO as get_engine has been added to enginefacade  https://review.openstack.org/37639110:54
openstackgerritHanxi Liu proposed openstack/gnocchi: Delete TODO as get_engine has been added to enginefacade  https://review.openstack.org/37639110:54
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mewaldhi everyone, I am currently trying to gather information about ceilometer's scalability. There are many rumors out there about ceilometer scaling badly etc etc. Wanted to hear first-hand information. That's why I am here :) Any information is very much appreciated13:37
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/gnocchi: remove the pandas module in test test_carbonara.py  https://review.openstack.org/37537313:42
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gordcmewald: if someone said here, it scaled, wouldn't that be hearsay as well? :P13:47
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gordcmewald: you can only really verify it yourself. my only advice is that:13:47
gordc1) don't use ceilometer storage13:48
gordcuse gnocchi or some timeseries storage13:48
gordc2) ceilometer (and openstack in general) is heavily reliant on rabbitmq. so you should probably understand that when delpoying.13:49
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gongyshjulian1, hi15:07
gongyshcdent, hi15:08
gongyshhttps://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh#L25315:10
gongyshwho knows if the gnocchi supports record events?15:11
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silehtgongysh, it doesn't 'record' them, it can just use some of them to track when resource are deleted15:36
yarkotgordc, jd__ - what would you think of a multi-node developer deployment as a repo item?  That is, a configuration with a lot of by-convention deployment defaults, as appropriate for development triage, or most (key) performance testing, minimally configurable (so as to get, say, 80-90% of the configs one would want).   Does this make sense?   Would you be inclined towards such a proposal?  I don't have much deployment experience, so happy15:40
yarkot for any comments.  It seems like this would be (very?) useful.  Would it?15:40
gordcyarkot: like adding docs on how to configure the services?15:42
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yarkotgordc - that (which we started w/ stevelle a while ago), but more:  I would actually like something like (?) an OSA config, with some common variations, so someone could just clone, read docs, make a minimal set of config changes, and "push the button" to make it happen.   I've got my vision on performance testing as "usual" part of development15:44
gongyshsileht, hi, but the gnocchi client doesn't have that method at all.15:46
yarkotDoes this kind of thing (say a 3-node setup; a 7-node setup as a couple of defaults) even make developer sense to you?15:46
yarkotgordc^15:46
silehtgongysh, Ceilometer uses event to set the ended-at column of an Gnocchi resource15:46
gordcyarkot: sort of?lol i like the idea of having multiple node setup guide.15:46
silehtgongysh, it doesn't record the raw event15:47
gordci don't know how the "clone, read docs, push button" workflow works though to be honest15:47
yarkotI'm thinking if performance checks are to ever become standard part of commit process (for example) there should be some "by convention" defaults that we could even have automatically run (eventually)15:47
gordcyarkot: do you mean we'd be adding puppet scripts into the repo or something?15:47
gongyshsileht, but the gnocchi client has that method https://github.com/openstack/python-gnocchiclient/blob/master/gnocchiclient/v1/client.py15:48
yarkotgordc - first step is:  is this interesting path to go:  check performance on pull requests;15:48
gordci'd be happy to have some sort of performance check against gnocchi. i don't know how stable performance stuff is in gate but i think it'd be good.15:48
silehtgongysh, you don't get me, we DON'T record event in Gnocchi15:49
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gordcyarkot: i think we had some rally tests to test GET requests... but that may be agaist ceilometer and not gnocchi.15:49
yarkotgordc - second: can we by convention agree on some default deployment tool;  e.g. ansible (OSA) - there seem to be so many to choose from, we'd have to be willing to pick by convention15:49
gongyshsileht, I want to get you. but https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/dispatcher/gnocchi.py#L52015:50
silehtgongysh, as I already said, we use event to set the ended_at column of a Gnocchi resource...15:50
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gordcyarkot: i don't know enough about deployment tools to help you there.15:51
yarkotgordc - ok:  let me draft up what documentation would be (what's best way to get eyes on that earlier rather than later), and try to include some ansible/OSA config15:51
gordci thought about running as puppet PTL but that was mainly to anger EmilienM15:51
silehtgongysh, for example when a instance is deleted, ceilometer catch the event and set in Gnocchi the ended_at column of this instance15:51
yarkot;-)15:51
gordcyarkot: i should probably ask, but what's OSA? openstack ansible?15:51
gongyshsileht, ok, but the gnocchi seemingly have no resource_update method at all. self._gnocchi.update_resource(resource_type,15:51
gongysh                                                      resource['id'],15:51
gongysh                                                      {'ended_at': ended_at})15:51
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yarkotgordc - yes, openstack ansible15:52
gongyshsileht, it should be _gnocchi.resource.update(xx)15:52
EmilienMgongysh: lol15:52
EmilienMerr, gordc ^15:53
gordcyarkot: kk, yeah, i mean if that's what you are most comfortable with i wouldn't suggest you do something else.15:53
EmilienMyou know rabbitmq, that's good enough15:53
yarkotand (to keep simple - not puppet)  possibly paver for small "by convention" config variations, prior to pushing a button.15:53
gordcEmilienM: did i win PTL?15:53
EmilienMgordc: yes!15:53
gordcEmilienM: yay!15:53
silehtgongysh, yes that looks like a bug when we migrate the code from request to Gnocchi client, you can open one in Launchpad and fix it since you seem have already done many investigation15:54
gordcyarkot: do you want this all these in another repo?15:54
gordcor something to add into exisitng repo?15:54
silehtgongysh, this code part looks not enought tested15:55
yarkotI was thinking a developer-stack repo .... an ansible set of default developer configurations (need more? do it manually; these are just the major useful ones);  maybe paver to flip configs between a few of the "by convention" standards.15:55
gongyshsileht, when I set CEILOMETER_BACKEND=gnocchi, the devstack failed15:55
gongyshsileht, 016-09-26 15:04:49.368 | ++/opt/stack/ceilometer/devstack/plugin.sh:init_ceilometer:366  /usr/local/bin/ceilometer-upgrade --skip-metering-database --skip-event-database15:56
gongysh2016-09-26 15:04:50.998 | 2016-09-26 15:04:50.997 16370 WARNING oslo_reports.guru_meditation_report [-] Guru meditation now registers SIGUSR1 and SIGUSR2 by default for backward compatibility. SIGUSR1 will no longer be registered in a future release, so please use SIGUSR2 to generate reports.15:56
gongysh2016-09-26 15:04:50.998 | 2016-09-26 15:04:50.998 16370 INFO ceilometer.cmd.storage [-] Skipping metering database upgrade15:56
gongysh2016-09-26 15:04:50.998 | 2016-09-26 15:04:50.998 16370 INFO ceilometer.cmd.storage [-] Skipping event database upgrade15:56
gordcyarkot: kk. i like the idea. will help get people started.15:56
gongysh2016-09-26 15:04:50.999 | 2016-09-26 15:04:50.999 16370 DEBUG ceilometer.cmd.storage [-] Upgrading Gnocchi resource types upgrade /opt/stack/ceilometer/ceilometer/cmd/storage.py:5915:56
gongysh2016-09-26 15:04:51.183 | 2016-09-26 15:04:51.177 16370 CRITICAL ceilometer [-] ConnectFailure: Unable to establish connection to http://192.168.23.33:8041/v1/resource_type/ceph_account15:56
silehtgongysh, please use paste.openstack.org ...15:56
yarkotgordc - I'm "fresh eyes" so checking if this makes sense to you, jd__... If so, I'll try to lay out for eyes however you suggest, see where we can get it.15:56
gongyshsileht, sorry15:56
silehtgongysh, you should looke in Gnocchi loks why it doesn't start15:57
gongyshsileht, it is at http://paste.openstack.org/show/582974/15:57
yarkotgordc - exactly; maybe help triage non trivial stuff;  maybe help automated performance / load testing scenarios (e.g. your talk:  You could point people to a config repo, with your config parameters:  "Reproduce in your environment, tell me what you saw" --- like that)15:57
silehtlkso/logs15:58
silehtgongysh, the devstack works for us, we run devstack with Gnocchi in Gate: http://logs.openstack.org/00/304500/13/check/gate-telemetry-dsvm-integration-ceilometer-ubuntu-xenial/f8d4dce/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2016-09-26_13_57_13_30215:59
gordcyarkot: sure. sounds like a good idea to get this information published/centralised. i don't know how useful we are for configuring dependencies like ceph/redis/zk/etc... but we can definitely help explain what all the options/configs are15:59
yarkotgordc - ok, I'm going to pursue this. see if I can get something useful in few weeks, commit in ~ month.  I'm "fresh meat" so may ask for a _lot_ of help...16:01
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gordcyarkot: kk. i'll just give a warning. there's very few dev resources in our community. and some of us may be on holiday before/after summit. but i'll definitely try to help out16:02
gordcthanks for looking at this.16:02
yarkotsure;  thanks.  I'm going to try to get something in docs ~2 weeks;  commit (with "reasonable defaults" config, even if for starters is just working example) the day before Barcelona.   Do you think (from reviewer end) that's doable?16:04
yarkotgordc  s/commit/merge  (from null => first dev-multi node ~commit ;-) )16:06
automagicallyyarkot: You may also want to have a look at https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_gnocchi and perhaps contribute there16:09
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gordcyarkot: maybe? i don't like making false promises16:12
gordcautomagically: thanks for bringing up link. i knew there was some ansible repo floaitng around16:12
gordcautomagically: yarkot: you think that's a better target?16:13
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automagicallyI’m biased as I’m part of the OpenStack-Ansible community. That said, if you are looking to get automation around gnocchi installs, we’ve already got some decent stuff16:14
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yarkotgordc - not looking for promises, rather sanity check (and what would get in the way) --- that's all...16:14
yarkotautomagically - thanks;  I'll have a look.16:14
gordcautomagically: yeah, well if we already have base and a community, doesn't really make sense to start fresh. let's start there16:15
yarkotagree;  thanks - will look / digest;16:17
stevelleand gordc yes the rally stuff I saw was against ceilometer. We started to add the gnocchi client to Rally and got one commit merged but it was rather hard getting progress from there.16:24
gordcstevelle: :( maybe it's something we can look at in next cycle.16:26
stevelleI think during newton rally was looking to iterate on what they had, they might be more open to introducing gnocchi work during ocata16:27
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openstackgerritianeta hutchinson proposed openstack/ceilometer: Alters rst markup to comply with OpenStack rst guidelines.  https://review.openstack.org/37693417:17
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openstackgerritboden proposed openstack/aodh: Replace retrying with tenacity  https://review.openstack.org/36760017:32
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openstackgerritJonte Watford proposed openstack/ceilometer: Bad Link: stevedore  https://review.openstack.org/37700318:21
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openstackgerritJonte Watford proposed openstack/ceilometer: Broken Link: setuptools entry point  https://review.openstack.org/37703919:02
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openstackgerritianeta hutchinson proposed openstack/ceilometer: Alters rst markup to comply with OpenStack rst guidelines.  https://review.openstack.org/37693419:12
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