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| akrzos | I'm using the gnocchi client and finding some usability issues maybe someon can help me with | 14:04 |
| akrzos | first - showing archive-policy shows granulatiry in format (ex. points: 12, granularity: 0:05:00, timespan: 1:00:00) but retreving actual measures it is specified in a different format (ex. measures aggregation -m 08fb5027-af4c-4526-beaf-6085a81304bd --aggregation count --granularity 300 | 14:06 |
| akrzos | ) | 14:06 |
| akrzos | so instead of using --granularity 0:05:00 you use --granularity 300 | 14:07 |
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| sileht | akrzos, sexy format vs seconds :) | 14:07 |
| akrzos | sileht: yeah minor, but just happened to notice it | 14:08 |
| sileht | akrzos, does it raise a error ? ignore it ? | 14:09 |
| akrzos | granularity must be a float: invalid literal for float(): 0:05:00 (HTTP 400) | 14:10 |
| akrzos | maybe just display granularity in the archive-policy list as the float | 14:10 |
| sileht | akrzos, server side should allow all formats like other place in the API for consistency | 14:11 |
| akrzos | yeah i saw that elsewhere do you need me to open a bug? | 14:11 |
| sileht | akrzos, the client even it's documented we need float, just pass the value as-is to the server | 14:11 |
| sileht | akrzos, yes to ensure we do not miss it | 14:11 |
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| akrzos | sileht: ok i'm also trying to make sure i have the correct understanding of measures /metrics and aggregations | 14:15 |
| sileht | akrzos, can you give me the link once you open the bug ? | 14:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: All granularity input should be parsed as timespan https://review.openstack.org/410776 | 14:22 |
| akrzos | sileht: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnocchi/+bug/1649908 | 14:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649908 in Gnocchi "gnocchi client measures aggregation --granularity should support additional formats" [Undecided,New] | 14:23 |
| akrzos | sileht: i do have a few other questions regarding ceilometer/gnocchi that i couldn't find answers to in the documentation very immediately | 14:25 |
| akrzos | i'm trying to understand what exactly determines the timespan of a measure | 14:25 |
| akrzos | so gnocchi gets a measure form somewhere lets just say this measure is memory usage of an instance | 14:26 |
| akrzos | s/form/from/ | 14:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: All granularity input should be parsed as timespan https://review.openstack.org/410776 | 14:26 |
| akrzos | but lets say i want a very fine grained measurements so i want to know the memory usage over every second | 14:27 |
| akrzos | i assume i have to configure the correct achival policy (high in gnocchi) | 14:28 |
| akrzos | for the instance i care i about | 14:28 |
| akrzos | but how do i make sure ceilometer actually receives or polls on a 1s basis for that data | 14:28 |
| akrzos | obivously there is ceilometer polling (defaults to 600s) | 14:28 |
| sileht | akrzos, you have to customise that | 14:29 |
| akrzos | but some measures come off the notification bus | 14:29 |
| akrzos | so do i have to configure the service to supply ceilometer metrics at that rate then? | 14:29 |
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| sileht | akrzos, that depends of the type of the metric, but most of the case yes | 14:31 |
| akrzos | if that isn't configured | 14:31 |
| akrzos | and i just change the archival policy | 14:31 |
| sileht | if you want memory usage every seconds you have to poll libvirt with the ceilometer-compute-agent every seconds | 14:32 |
| akrzos | do i just get whatever "sample" is available replicated at the rate at which is is supplied to gnocchi? | 14:32 |
| akrzos | is is/it is | 14:32 |
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| akrzos | say i technically receive a measure every 5 minutes | 14:33 |
| sileht | akrzos, you will not get the missing timestamps with you will retreive the measures or aggregation | 14:33 |
| sileht | akrzos, we are working on a new feature to ask gnocchi to fill the hole with some values | 14:33 |
| akrzos | if there is more docs aside from gnocchi.xyz that i could read to understand better too that would be helpful | 14:35 |
| akrzos | so the pipeline.yaml interval only affects some of the metrics at the rate they can be provided correct? | 14:35 |
| akrzos | also i'd like to monitor the rate of measures coming in and being processed | 14:36 |
| akrzos | via collectd | 14:36 |
| akrzos | should i just poll gnocchi status? | 14:37 |
| akrzos | looks like just running gnocchi status consumes 3s of time or so | 14:37 |
| akrzos | so looking for a "faster" source of this data if possible | 14:37 |
| sileht | akrzos, for the pipeline, yes | 14:38 |
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| sileht | akrzos, gnocchi status for what ? | 14:38 |
| akrzos | according to the docs you should monitor if the measures is consistently building up | 14:39 |
| sileht | akrzos, oh yes | 14:39 |
| sileht | akrzos, don't do that too often :) | 14:40 |
| akrzos | http://gnocchi.xyz/running.html#how-to-monitor-gnocchi | 14:40 |
| sileht | akrzos, you should just check that the numbers don't grow over a long period | 14:41 |
| akrzos | what would be considered a "long period" | 14:41 |
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| gordc | akrzos: i think it's generated in the logs periodically | 14:41 |
| gordc | there's a metric_reporting_delay value | 14:41 |
| akrzos | oh i see it now | 14:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/python-gnocchiclient: Remove no more usefull help https://review.openstack.org/410787 | 14:42 |
| akrzos | so i've recently deployed ceph with my cloud and i wanted to understand the scalablity limits with gnocchi using ceph as the storage driver | 14:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/python-gnocchiclient: Remove no more usefull help https://review.openstack.org/410787 | 14:43 |
| akrzos | and one of the ideas/thoughts was to scale up resources and check if gnocchi was keeping up | 14:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: All granularity input should be parsed as timespan https://review.openstack.org/410776 | 14:44 |
| akrzos | ideally i'd like to graph this with all the other metrics i capture with collectd at a 10s interval | 14:44 |
| gordc | akrzos: i don't think capacity will be an issue. it will probably be IO that limits you. | 14:45 |
| akrzos | ok so i tried once already with 1k instances and the number of measures just continues to grow and grow | 14:46 |
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| akrzos | my disks are no where near at IO capacity | 14:46 |
| akrzos | so eomsthing else is bottlenecked, perhaps number of metricd workers | 14:46 |
| akrzos | they didn't appear to be pegged | 14:46 |
| akrzos | yes they were not even close to pegged out | 14:48 |
| gordc | probably. with 1K resources + 20metrics each, i had ~50 workers to have it maintain empty backlog | 14:48 |
| akrzos | api workers more likely | 14:48 |
| gordc | i had 32 api workers to push in data | 14:49 |
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| akrzos | so i had 6 api workers (in httpd) x 3 controllers (18 workers total), 6 metricd processing workers x 3 controllers (18 workers total) | 14:49 |
| gordc | akrzos: here's a brownbag i did http://www.slideshare.net/GordonChung/gnocchi-v3-brownbag | 14:50 |
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| akrzos | yeah i saw that, i test at an integrated level, those are benchmarks without authentication, etc correct? | 14:51 |
| gordc | if you're just wondering why your gnocchi status value is rising then that only relates to metricd workers | 14:51 |
| gordc | yeah, i disabled authentication | 14:51 |
| gordc | api workers is only a concern if you're pushing data in and it's timing out. | 14:52 |
| akrzos | so you would recommend checking the logs out more rather than polling gnocchi status | 14:52 |
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| gordc | either or. they do the same command. | 14:53 |
| gordc | regardless it's a very heavy operation | 14:53 |
| akrzos | would it be possibly to expose this data without "tailing a log file" or spawning a python process | 14:53 |
| akrzos | maybe gnocchi could record it's performance in itself | 14:53 |
| gordc | it is actually scanning through entire backlog storage and building a report on demand | 14:53 |
| gordc | i'm not entirely sure there's an easy solution for this given everything is distributed. | 14:54 |
| gordc | you can create a wishlist bug... not sure if it's high priority for any of the devs currently | 14:55 |
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| gordc | sileht: how are you testing your kafka patches in gate with the requirements stuff forcing cap? | 15:00 |
| sileht | gordc, I keep my secret ! | 15:00 |
| gordc | fine! i abandon everything! | 15:01 |
| sileht | gordc, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332105/17/tools/tox_install.sh | 15:01 |
| gordc | ah i see. clever. | 15:02 |
| sileht | gordc, I have abandoned my requirement patch for kombu to pass a message | 15:02 |
| gordc | sileht: yeah, it's super hard to do stuff in requirements. | 15:03 |
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| sileht | gordc, so many wall to step over to change 3 lines... | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: Revert "Add hypervisor inspector sanity check" https://review.openstack.org/410809 | 15:18 |
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| akrzos | got it i'll open an rfe if i see fit while running gnocchi status etc | 15:33 |
| akrzos | gordc: thanks for the help | 15:33 |
| akrzos | one other question, how many ceph objects should be created per gnocchi metric? | 15:33 |
| gordc | akrzos: depends on your archive policy | 15:34 |
| gordc | thre's one object per granularity+aggregation pair (so default policy has 24) | 15:34 |
| gordc | and then if your series is long enough, it gets split across multiple objects | 15:35 |
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| gordc | if number of obj or metricd performance is an issue. you can alternatively just capture a single granularity and then resample to other granularities on demand | 15:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: libvirt: rewrite the error handling https://review.openstack.org/398297 | 15:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: Don't poll nova with compute agent https://review.openstack.org/397654 | 15:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: tests: switch devstack/gate to libvirt_metadata https://review.openstack.org/398268 | 15:38 |
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| lhx_ | gordc, sileht, I will try to remove collector, but other preparations seems be accomplished? | 15:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: Introduce new storage groups for storage https://review.openstack.org/402320 | 15:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: storage: remove temporary incoming setup https://review.openstack.org/402321 | 15:47 |
| gordc | lhx_: maybe? sileht? | 15:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: metricd: move metricd options in metricd group https://review.openstack.org/402341 | 15:47 |
| sileht | lhx_, what are you think about ? | 15:47 |
| lhx_ | sileht, have you ever tested for direct publisher? | 15:48 |
| sileht | lhx_, some time ago locally | 15:48 |
| lhx_ | if it's work well, it's time to remove | 15:49 |
| sileht | lhx_, I think we could create/update a new integration jobs without collector to ensure we didn't miss something | 15:49 |
| lhx_ | it's work/it works | 15:49 |
| lhx_ | sileht, miss what? meter, or events? | 15:51 |
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| sileht | lhx_, I don't think we miss something, but adding gate tests to validate the architecture is always a good idea, at least to not break it in the future | 15:53 |
| sileht | lhx_, I'm ok to remove collector from the current job | 15:53 |
| sileht | I think we need to copy the devstack plugin method _ceilometer_configure_storage_backend that configure the pipeline instead of ceilometer.conf to use the direct publisher | 15:54 |
| sileht | and use it when collector is disabled instead of the storage one | 15:55 |
| lhx_ | sileht, sure, it still needs more tests. hum..., one patch can't resolve all, lol | 15:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: libvirt: rewrite the error handling https://review.openstack.org/398297 | 16:02 |
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