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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/panko master: add ceilometer publisher https://review.openstack.org/431593 | 04:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/ceilometer master: Revert "verify gnocchi connection before processing" https://review.openstack.org/436863 | 10:24 |
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| sileht | jd_, #1666072 is a joke, does tripleo know how apache works ... | 11:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi master: ceph: Allow to configure timeout https://review.openstack.org/436896 | 12:02 |
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| jd_ | sileht: :-) | 13:28 |
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| EmilienM | sileht, jd_, well, we're happy if you can teach us | 13:40 |
| sileht | EmilienM, it seems you are the guy that fix the issue, so I have nothing to teach to you :) | 13:41 |
| EmilienM | sileht: was the fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/436650/ correct? | 13:42 |
| gordc | make it 10000 | 13:43 |
| sileht | EmilienM, apache and low memory is a bit hard :p | 13:43 |
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| EmilienM | sileht: right, but we are restricted by CI resources | 13:44 |
| EmilienM | we're not deploying gnocchi/ceilo on production servers in our CI | 13:44 |
| EmilienM | we're using what nodepool gives to us | 13:44 |
| sileht | EmilienM, I know :( | 13:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/panko master: Fix releasenotes https://review.openstack.org/436759 | 14:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer master: chill out on the number of items in toc https://review.openstack.org/436703 | 16:58 |
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| MVenesio | Hi Guys, i'm having some issues with the ceilometer agent notification consuming and publishing in a rabbitmq configured with SSL, the error 'm getting is from oslo_messaging.notify.dispatcher "SSL routines:SSL3_WRITE_PENDING:bad write retry", do you know any idea about what can be wrong ? | 19:43 |
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| gordc | MVenesio: i've never seen it. you can open a bug and post your full error. | 19:53 |
| MVenesio | gordc: of course, i can do it | 19:55 |
| MVenesio | gordc: just checking if it's a common error since it's the first time we're using rabbitmq with tls | 19:56 |
| gordc | one of the packaging, deployment teams might know. | 19:57 |
| gordc | if pradk was here, he might know. | 19:57 |
| MVenesio | gordc: i'll create the bug and wait for him | 19:58 |
| MVenesio | thanks | 19:58 |
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| jmlowe | I need a hint, what does this mean "No gnocchi definition for event type: identity.role_assignment.created" | 20:26 |
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| gordc | jmlowe: you can ignore it. gnocchi understands only a subset of events so if ceilometer builds something it doesn't know, it'll ignore it (with that debug message) | 20:34 |
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| gordc | in gnocchi_resources.yaml you'll see some events like: https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/6ecdd6ea1e0ebd5da676e3910ceda624e7263841/ceilometer/dispatcher/data/gnocchi_resources.yaml#L128 | 20:35 |
| jmlowe | ack, just did the upgrade to newton, is the event database stuff still in ceilometer? | 20:35 |
| jmlowe | it sure seems like it's trying to store stuff directly in the db | 20:35 |
| gordc | in newton, yes. or you can use panko | 20:35 |
| jmlowe | whew, I'm not convinced I have a working pako | 20:35 |
| gordc | it depends what dispatcher or publisher you have enabled. | 20:36 |
| jmlowe | ok, so things are probably working then | 20:36 |
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| jmlowe | yep, I'm seeing increasing max(generated) in the ceilometer events table | 20:44 |
| jmlowe | on to other things broken in the newton upgrade | 20:44 |
| gordc | jmlowe: :) | 20:44 |
| gordc | see you in 2 months | 20:45 |
| jmlowe | lol | 20:45 |
| jmlowe | I'm fixing my gnocchi backlog with hardware, have some intel p3700 ssd's ordered | 20:45 |
| jmlowe | finally figured out that my problem is leveldb compaction takes longer than the heartbeat timeout for the osd and compaction is single threaded | 20:46 |
| jmlowe | with bluestore it uses rocksdb and compaction can happen in the background | 20:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer master: remove collector instructions https://review.openstack.org/436709 | 20:47 |
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| gordc | jmlowe: this related to the timeout issue you had before? | 20:47 |
| jmlowe | so I either need to make compaction happen faster by getting a lot more iops or use the experimental bluestore or both | 20:48 |
| gordc | jmlowe: i've been meaning to try newer ceph to test out rocksdb... but then i realised, it's probably going to be a lot of work | 20:48 |
| jmlowe | yes, omap uses this leveldb so when I delete a bunch of keys having processed metrics all activity on the osd halts until compaction completes | 20:49 |
| gordc | i think akrzos was testing against 10K VM... not sure how the benchmark system is configured. | 20:49 |
| jmlowe | I think it's my ~8M metric backlog that is the killer | 20:50 |
| gordc | jmlowe: :( ... hopefully get around to fixing that omap stuff once i get over headache of fixing docs | 20:50 |
| gordc | yeah, i never validated against 8M backlog. thanks for being guinea pig | 20:51 |
| jmlowe | like I said, fixing with hardware, estimating at least 3 orders of magnitude more iops, also isolating away from my vm storage so I won't care that much if the osd flaps | 20:51 |
| jmlowe | it's my own damn fault, didn't notice it growing | 20:51 |
| akrzos | jmlowe: I use this to monitor for backlog growth https://github.com/akrzos/gnocchi-status-collectd | 20:51 |
| * akrzos still trying to get to 10k vms | 20:52 | |
| jmlowe | most I've ever spun up at a go is 1k | 20:52 |
| jmlowe | that put us at about 1.2k running | 20:52 |
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| hogepodge | Hi, is there any time tomorrow or Friday morning to meet and talk about the interop/defcore guidelines for the coming year? We were hoping to get an advisory program approved for Ceilometer for the 2017.08 guideline release | 21:08 |
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| gordc | hogepodge: jd_ lives in France if you need ptl. most devs are in europe/asian. and there's me on EST. | 21:12 |
| gordc | you have a link to provide some context? | 21:12 |
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| therve | gordc, Hi! | 21:13 |
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| gordc | therve: hey, whatsup? | 21:14 |
| therve | gordc, How much do you care about py3? :) | 21:14 |
| therve | There is an issue with tooz/ceilo that we're seing in our builds | 21:15 |
| therve | gordc, http://logs.openstack.org/70/435870/1/check/gate-heat-dsvm-functional-orig-mysql-lbaasv2-py35-ubuntu-xenial-nv/f1a955e/logs/screen-ceilometer-acentral.txt.gz#_2017-02-20_07_44_21_163 | 21:15 |
| hogepodge | gordc: here's kind of a goofy introduction. https://www.slideshare.net/markvoelker/interopwg-intro-vertical-programs-jan-2017 | 21:15 |
| hogepodge | gordc: the most relevant parts start on slide 17. tl;dr we're expanding the OpenStack Powered trademark program to include what we are calling add-ons | 21:16 |
| gordc | therve: :/ i imagine we should fix that | 21:16 |
| therve | That'd be cool | 21:16 |
| therve | I'm not sure where, though | 21:16 |
| hogepodge | So if your cloud provides extra functionality, like Ceilometer, you could call it OpenStack Powered Platform with Telemetry (for example) | 21:16 |
| gordc | therve: i can take a look. i might need to defer to jd_ | 21:17 |
| gordc | therve: is there a bug? | 21:17 |
| hogepodge | So we want to get a guideline put together that would express what interoperability for telemetry looks like, and use that guideline to allow users to test clouds for the required capabilities. | 21:17 |
| therve | Not yet no | 21:17 |
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| gordc | hogepodge: i uh... don't really understand 'interoperability for telemetry'... is this something to validate API? | 21:21 |
| hogepodge | gordc: yes | 21:21 |
| therve | gordc, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1667117 | 21:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1667117 in Ceilometer "Coordination doesn't work on python3" [Undecided,New] | 21:22 |
| gordc | hogepodge: ok. i sort of understand?lol i should tell you that ceilometer itself doesn't have an api. | 21:22 |
| gordc | just the consuming projects: gnocchi, aodh, panko. | 21:22 |
| gordc | therve: cool cool. will try to see if i can get it fixed in next few. | 21:23 |
| therve | Thanks. I'll see in the issue might be in tooz | 21:23 |
| hogepodge | ah, i see, deprecated for other projects. I have not kept up... | 21:23 |
| gordc | right. | 21:23 |
| hogepodge | hmm | 21:24 |
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| hogepodge | gordc: thanks, now I feel a both sheepish and want to know more! :-D | 21:32 |
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| gordc | hogepodge: short story, the ceilometer api was not scalable. 1) because the api model was really verbose and 2) because it was too many different models in one single api/storage service | 21:36 |
| gordc | hogepodge: we split the each model into it's own service since they were all discrete services. | 21:36 |
| gordc | hogepodge: an in case of metering api, we made a new, efficient model which was gnocchi. | 21:37 |
| hogepodge | gordc: so do you think a better target for a program like ours would be gnocchi? | 21:37 |
| gordc | yeah, that's probably the most used api endpoint of the 3 we created. | 21:38 |
| hogepodge | Or, if it's just not a good fit at all, that's also something which is good for us to know. We just see growing adoption of ceilometer and want to surface it in the marketplace if possible | 21:39 |
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| gordc | gnocchi would probably be the best target. i'm not entirely sure what requirements interop wg / defcore has. | 21:40 |
| gordc | gnocchi api is stable (maybe expanding sometimes) but we have varying levels of anti-establishment in our group.lol | 21:41 |
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| hogepodge | :-D | 21:41 |
| hogepodge | that's one of the reasons I love open source | 21:42 |
| gordc | i'll leave description as that but i really have no idea what we need to do on our end. if it helps with adoption, that's cool | 21:42 |
| gordc | we track mailing list pretty actively, if timing doesn't work. | 21:43 |
| gordc | therve: weird, that encoding bit was in tooz for a while. we'll probably need to fix it in ceilometer. | 21:49 |
| therve | gordc, Yeah looks like it | 21:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/ceilometer master: Use bytes for coordination member https://review.openstack.org/437163 | 21:50 |
| therve | gordc, ^^^ | 21:50 |
| gordc | therve: in theory that failing code does not need to be there. the only reason it's there is because for some unknown reason, ceilometer sometimes failed to join group | 21:51 |
| therve | Hum | 21:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer master: add jitter to notification agent https://review.openstack.org/437180 | 22:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer master: add jitter to notification agent https://review.openstack.org/437180 | 23:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer master: Remove unused override https://review.openstack.org/437045 | 23:21 |
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