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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer master: support gnocchi timeout https://review.openstack.org/437466 | 04:16 |
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| sileht | jd_, morning, I have sent the swift driver :) | 08:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | qin.jiang proposed openstack/ceilometer stable/mitaka: Fix the problem of pep8 https://review.openstack.org/437832 | 08:24 |
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| jd_ | sileht: I saw that I'll review it today :) | 09:00 |
| jd_ | sileht: good job anyway! | 09:00 |
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| jd_ | sileht: you sure it's better to have this build_ring.sh rather than doing that in Python? it seems straigh forward to execute this command and "safer", but i'm good with that sh script too – just asking | 09:39 |
| sileht | jd_, the cwd to tempdir :p | 09:40 |
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| jd_ | sileht: os.chdir? :p | 09:40 |
| sileht | jd_, but I was too lazy yesterday | 09:40 |
| sileht | jd_, I have just copy all scripts/conf I have done during my testing | 09:40 |
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| jd_ | i am not sure you can say that considering the patches u just sent lol | 09:41 |
| jd_ | when I'm lazy I just do nothing at all :p | 09:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer master: add missing instance meta https://review.openstack.org/435109 | 10:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer master: add missing instance meta https://review.openstack.org/435109 | 10:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer master: add missing instance meta https://review.openstack.org/435109 | 10:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer master: add missing instance meta https://review.openstack.org/435109 | 11:15 |
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| sileht | jd_, Can you merge and release pifpaf after your lunch ? | 11:48 |
| jd_ | sileht: i think so | 11:49 |
| sileht | jd_, I have even built the ring in python ! | 11:49 |
| sileht | without chdir ! | 11:49 |
| jd_ | clap clap clap :) | 11:50 |
| sileht | thx to haypo for the sitecustomize.py hack | 11:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/ceilometer master: Remove smoke tag for TelemetryNotificationAPITest https://review.openstack.org/437890 | 13:07 |
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| sileht | jd, can you take a look too: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435109/13 | 13:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi master: tests: functional with tox+pifpaf https://review.openstack.org/428651 | 13:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer master: add missing instance meta https://review.openstack.org/435109 | 14:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer master: support gnocchi timeout https://review.openstack.org/437466 | 14:07 |
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| catintheroof | jd_: hi! can i shoot an ... definition question ? ;) | 14:21 |
| jd_ | catintheroof: sure | 14:22 |
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| catintheroof | jd_: i have a 500 vms cloud working on mitaka | 14:24 |
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| catintheroof | jd_: i will deploy gnocchi to collect metrics | 14:24 |
| catintheroof | jd_: but i need to make a decision and i was hopingyou can help me | 14:24 |
| catintheroof | jd_: i need to choose between deploying CEPH as gnocchi backend OR i have a big filer to use as NFS shared between gnocchis and use FILE as gnocchi backend | 14:26 |
| catintheroof | jd_: can you help me make a decision ? | 14:26 |
| jd_ | if you deploy Gnocchi to collect metrics, that will not work… but if you deploy it to _store_ metrics, it might ;) | 14:26 |
| jd_ | catintheroof: go with Ceph, definitely | 14:26 |
| catintheroof | jd_: jajajjajajaj | 14:27 |
| catintheroof | jd_: can i know your reasons ? please ? | 14:27 |
| jd_ | sure | 14:27 |
| jd_ | first it's more scalable, as you can easily node to spread the I/O where your NAS will be a SPOF with a lot of contention potentially | 14:28 |
| jd_ | second, gnocchi write will be faster since it can append data as it receive them rather than rewrite them | 14:28 |
| jd_ | third, you'll be able to shrink/grow more easily | 14:28 |
| jd_ | and that's all I'd say | 14:28 |
| catintheroof | jd_: and if instead of gnocchi being on-premises with NFS, gnocchi stands on AWS with EFS shared among gnocchis, "file" backend considerations against CEPH are the same ? | 14:30 |
| jd_ | catintheroof: yes | 14:32 |
| jd_ | catintheroof: if you go with AWS it's likely better to try S3 | 14:32 |
| jd_ | might be better than EBS | 14:32 |
| catintheroof | jd_: or maybe my question would be ... is CEPH the best gnocchi backend ? | 14:32 |
| jd_ | catintheroof: yes and it's written right there http://gnocchi.xyz/master/architecture.html#available-storage-back-ends ;) | 14:35 |
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| catintheroof | jd_: nice! quick more questions, does the collectD agent integrated with gnocchi, works on windows also ? | 14:57 |
| jd_ | catintheroof: yes | 14:58 |
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| catintheroof | jd_: nice, thx | 15:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer master: Trivial: remove extra spaces https://review.openstack.org/437223 | 15:40 |
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| sileht | gordc, why we have volume.backup.size in gnocchi_resources.yaml ? | 15:45 |
| sileht | gordc, in meters.yaml we have just backup.size | 15:46 |
| sileht | gordc, or what the difference between the backup.size (notification) and volume.backup.size (polling) ? | 15:47 |
| gordc | sileht: ... uh... i don't know. :) | 15:49 |
| sileht | gordc, you added them :) | 15:49 |
| gordc | i'll take a quick look | 15:49 |
| gordc | oh.lol | 15:49 |
| sileht | we have the same kind of thing for snapshot.size and volume.snapshot.size | 15:50 |
| gordc | sileht: yeah, i think i just copied that format | 15:51 |
| gordc | the snapshot.* meters seem to be historical. | 15:53 |
| gordc | the polling one with 'volume.*' is new. tbh, i think volume.* is better but we'd need to develop process to rename notification ones. | 15:53 |
| sileht | oki | 15:54 |
| gordc | or we can build both names and disable one in pipeline? | 15:56 |
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| sileht | I don't know the best way, but we need a path to deprecated/rename metrics | 16:02 |
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| gordc | sileht: we should probably change the polling names though. since the original notification names are without volume prefix | 16:05 |
| sileht | gordc, we release them already :( | 16:07 |
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| sileht | gordc, I have to go, let's think about that with a fresh mind after the weekend :) | 16:07 |
| catintheroof | gordc: hi! im trying agent central and notifications agents coordinated and partitioned on mitaka, and im getting this on agent-notification.log http://pastebin.com/HmLmzLTR | 16:09 |
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| gordc | sileht: kk | 16:09 |
| catintheroof | gordc: im config is as follow on both ceiometer.conf http://pastebin.com/cRhdH40N | 16:10 |
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| catintheroof | gordc: is that normal? on the logs ? | 16:11 |
| gordc | catintheroof: i don't think you need that many workers but regardless i think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437180/ might help | 16:12 |
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| gordc | you can try to backport that if you want. | 16:12 |
| gordc | catintheroof: i don't know if it's normal. as long as you have a consumer on all the pipeline queues, you are good. | 16:12 |
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| catintheroof | gordc: well, notification agents consume all messages and put the processed messages on metering.sample | 16:13 |
| catintheroof | gordc: so i think its working | 16:13 |
| gordc | catintheroof: you should be checking ceilometer-pipe* queues | 16:15 |
| catintheroof | gordc: i will | 16:17 |
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| catintheroof | gordc: if i dont want to use partitioned notifications but i do want to use them coordinated, is that supported ? | 16:46 |
| catintheroof | gordc: or if i dont use partitioning, goordination is no use ? | 16:46 |
| gordc | they are the same thing essentially. it won't work if they don't know about each other in some regard. | 16:48 |
| catintheroof | gordc: ok, one more ... could it be that in this partitioned and coordinated mode, i see a greater amount of messages on metering.sample that not using partitioned mode ? | 16:54 |
| catintheroof | gordc: are messages posted differently in this mode to be processed by the collector ? | 16:55 |
| gordc | catintheroof: nope. if it's working properly, it should be exactly same amount of messages to metering.sample | 16:56 |
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| Pneumatic_ | gordc: Hi, I added that stuff to local.conf, did an unstack.sh and stack.sh again, but I don't see anything running for ceilometer. Where should I be looking for errors/logs? | 18:16 |
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| gordc | Pneumatic_: you can see the log in /opt/stack/logs/stack.sh.log, if there's no errors there, you shoudl be good | 18:34 |
| gordc | so you see no ceilometer in screen? | 18:34 |
| Pneumatic_ | Nope... and I can't find stack.sh.log in /opt/stack/logs, | 18:35 |
| Pneumatic_ | I'm developing under stable/ocata, and at least one place I see ominous warnings that the ceilometer API is deprecated, but I think ceilometer is still around , right? | 18:38 |
| gordc | Pneumatic_: weird. you should have a log from running stack.sh | 18:41 |
| Pneumatic_ | I'm saving one of my own right now. | 18:42 |
| gordc | Pneumatic_: ceiloemter api is deprecated yes. but there are other services such as polling agent and notificiation agent which send the data to gnocchi rather than ceilometer-api | 18:42 |
| Pneumatic_ | Yep... I'm trying to write a dispatcher/notification module to send data to our in-house time-series DB. | 18:43 |
| gordc | Pneumatic_: you'll need to create a publisher since collector is deprecated and we push from notification agent straight to whereever | 18:45 |
| gordc | https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/tree/master/ceilometer/publisher | 18:46 |
| gordc | i'm not really sure how to help you get ceilometer started... that paste i sent should've insatlled/launched ceilometer | 18:46 |
| gordc | lack logs doesn't help | 18:46 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer master: support gnocchi timeout https://review.openstack.org/437466 | 18:49 |
| Pneumatic_ | Thanks for the pointer to publishers. | 18:51 |
| Pneumatic_ | gordc: stack.sh errors out with this error: http://paste.openstack.org/show/600417/ | 18:51 |
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| gordc | Pneumatic_: that's because unstack doesn't properly cleanup any vm you may have started. you'll need to manually remove the volume group | 18:53 |
| gordc | or restart your machine and stack again | 18:53 |
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| Pneumatic_ | never started a VM... never got that far, but I'll reboot and see what VGs remain. | 18:55 |
| akrzos | gordc: if i wanted to read more into the ceilometer architecture, is there better docs than what is just posted for the dev docs? | 18:58 |
| gordc | akrzos: that's the best we got for now. in process of doing a braindump to docs currently | 19:01 |
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| gordc | akrzos: or you can ask one of us, (i'm stepping out to lunch now though) | 19:01 |
| akrzos | ok cool | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/ceilometer master: Use bytes for coordination member https://review.openstack.org/437163 | 19:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer master: Remove smoke tag for TelemetryNotificationAPITest https://review.openstack.org/437890 | 19:06 |
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| joadavis | Pneumatic_: one example I know of for using publishers - github.com/openstack/monasca-ceilometer | 19:49 |
| Pneumatic_ | Thanks joadavis | 19:49 |
| joadavis | Take it for what you can. That repo isn't keeping up with all the Ceilometer Ocata changes (yet). | 19:51 |
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