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| openstackgerrit | zhongshengping proposed openstack/panko master: Fix the port for Panko API in devstack https://review.openstack.org/471980 | 01:12 |
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| flwang | gordc: ping | 13:09 |
| gordc | flwang: hey, whatsup? | 13:11 |
| flwang | i got an interesting requirement about ceiloemter. | 13:11 |
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| gordc | ok. you going to implement it? ;) | 13:13 |
| flwang | if i want to 'forward' the data collected by ceilometer to another place(e.g. a queue), like to gnocchi, 'dispatcher' or 'publisher' which one is the correct direction? | 13:13 |
| flwang | gordc: lol | 13:13 |
| gordc | flwang: publisher. the dispatcher stuff is collector-related which is deprecated. | 13:14 |
| flwang | i was thinking it should be publisher | 13:14 |
| gordc | yep :) | 13:14 |
| flwang | and if i want to 'forward' it to another rabbitmq, then i can just reuse the existing https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/publisher/messaging.py right? | 13:15 |
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| gordc | flwang: yep. assuming it works for you. | 13:17 |
| flwang | gordc: awesome, thanks, i will take another look and may bug you later ;) | 13:20 |
| gordc | flwang: kk | 13:22 |
| flwang | gordc: as you said, the dispatcher way is deprecated, but why i still can see https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/dispatcher/gnocchi.py ? | 13:26 |
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| flwang | jd_: ^ | 13:40 |
| gordc | flwang: sorry, didn't notice. there's a gnocchi publisher endpoint which masks the fact it's a dispatcher. | 13:42 |
| gordc | but yes, ideally, we don't need that masking to avoid the additional overhead. | 13:43 |
| flwang | so does that mean i can also write a 'messaging dispatcher' to forward the data to another RabbitMQ? | 13:44 |
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| gordc | well you can... i'm not your boss :P | 13:46 |
| gordc | i don't advise you to since it's extra overhead and it's taking a deprecated path | 13:47 |
| lhx_ | flwang, I'm sure there is not need :) | 13:47 |
| lhx_ | it's a waste of time if so | 13:47 |
| flwang | gordc: lhx_: got, thanks a lot | 13:48 |
| flwang | another question is | 13:48 |
| lhx_ | go on plz | 13:48 |
| flwang | can i use two publisher in the same time in pipeline.yaml so that i can send data to gnocchi and another RabbitMQ? | 13:48 |
| lhx_ | of course | 13:49 |
| gordc | jd_: you close the launchpad for gnocchi? | 13:49 |
| flwang | see https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/pipeline/data/pipeline.yaml#L38 | 13:49 |
| jd_ | gordc: yes why? | 13:50 |
| gordc | flwang: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/install/dbreco.html#moving-from-ceilometer-to-gnocchi | 13:50 |
| flwang | i'm not too sure if I replace it with 'notifier://xxxxxxx', then does ceilometer still have a way to send data to gnocchi ? | 13:50 |
| gordc | jd_: our issues in gnocchixyz linked to the bugs in launchpad. | 13:50 |
| flwang | gordc: fantastic | 13:50 |
| jd_ | gordc: and? | 13:51 |
| gordc | jd_: oh wait. you can access them directly. | 13:51 |
| jd_ | yes | 13:51 |
| jd_ | :) | 13:51 |
| gordc | catintheroof: do you know if https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnocchi/+bug/1516741 is the same as https://github.com/gnocchixyz/gnocchi/issues/87 | 13:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1516741 in Gnocchi "Get metric measures of more than one resource (no aggregation)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to fengchaoyang (fengchaoyang) | 13:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/panko master: Fix panko api port https://review.openstack.org/472339 | 16:39 |
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| sergio__ | jd_: we are needing this feature asap https://github.com/gnocchixyz/gnocchi/issues/9 | 16:41 |
| sergio__ | jd_: can we have an estimate to know when can be implemented? | 16:42 |
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| sergio__ | jd_: now we are using generic to to make queries cross resource type but it only works using generic metadata fields and we have important common metadata to filter and grouping | 16:45 |
| jd_ | sergio__: :( | 16:49 |
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| jd_ | sergio__: I don't have a good answer, we're only 3 and we're so busy with other parts unfortunately :( | 16:59 |
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| sergio__ | jd__: it would be very important for us to have an estimate so we can take decisions. This feature is locking lots of important features for us. | 17:02 |
| jd_ | sergio__: all I can say is that nobody is working on it – it's free software, nobody's controlling anybody :) | 17:04 |
| sergio__ | jd_: do you think we can develop this feature maybe with some guidance of you? | 17:15 |
| leitan | jd_: is possible to commit this kind of feature that sergio__ is talking about, to stable 3.1, and "up"portit to master later ? o the change should be applied directly to master and backuport it to stable 3.1 | 17:18 |
| jd_ | sergio__: that'd be great | 17:19 |
| jd_ | leitan: master, then you can backport it if you want, but upstream we won't | 17:19 |
| leitan | jd_: great | 17:20 |
| leitan | jd_: any pinpoints on how to start this ? cause we are gonna get dirty | 17:21 |
| jd_ | leitan: spit your ideas or questions in the bug tracker and as soon as you got something send a PR for review | 17:23 |
| vkmc | ceilometer's endpoint is not being registered on keystone on latest devstack deployment, is somebody else being able to reproduce this' | 17:26 |
| leitan | jd_: roger that, will do | 17:27 |
| gordc | vkmc: makes sense. ceilometer itself doesn't have an api | 17:29 |
| vkmc | gordc, all right, should I be using gnocchi instead? | 17:29 |
| gordc | vkmc: if you want to store metric data, then yes. | 17:30 |
| vkmc | gordc, all right | 17:30 |
| leitan | panko for events, gnocchi for metrics :) | 17:30 |
| vkmc | gordc, so I assume this should be abandoned https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464269/1 | 17:30 |
| gordc | vkmc: that is still valid. ceilometer still has a role | 17:32 |
| gordc | it handles pipeline/normalisation/etc... so if you know the ELK stash, consider ceilometer similar to logstash (except very openstack specific and less featureful) | 17:33 |
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| gordc | s/stash/stack | 17:33 |
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| vkmc | ok... so, what I want is to collect data from notifications being triggered on certain events in manila | 17:36 |
| vkmc | and be able to use that data for different purposes | 17:37 |
| vkmc | I'm triggering those notifications but now I'm not sure how to collect them now from using one of the telemetry projects | 17:37 |
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| gordc | vkmc: so manila sends notifications? the patch you linked is just polling manila api for statistics. | 17:39 |
| vkmc | gordc, it does | 17:39 |
| vkmc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466586 | 17:39 |
| gordc | which is valid, but is different from events. | 17:39 |
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| vkmc | which pieces am I missing now? | 17:39 |
| gordc | vkmc: add events definition here if you want to capture events: https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/pipeline/data/event_definitions.yaml | 17:40 |
| vkmc | perfect | 17:41 |
| gordc | if there's numerical data you want to create as meters, add them here: https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/data/meters.d/meters.yaml | 17:41 |
| vkmc | ok | 17:42 |
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| vkmc | and then... panko or gnocchi to retrieve that captured data? | 17:43 |
| gordc | vkmc: right | 17:44 |
| marcoarildo | Hy guys, How to differentiate internal network traffic vs external traffic of a VM ? | 17:45 |
| vkmc | gordc, thanks :) | 17:48 |
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| jd_ | marcoarildo: ask Neutron | 18:39 |
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| marcoarildo | jd_: tks | 18:58 |
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| EmilienM | jd_: stop working | 20:49 |
| jd_ | i'm fixing stuff | 20:49 |
| EmilienM | ok, keep working | 20:50 |
| jd_ | :-) | 20:51 |
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