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| openstackgerrit | zhangdaolong proposed openstack/ceilometer master: Fix can not find VMwareAPISession when import oslo_vmware https://review.openstack.org/475983 | 00:31 |
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| korean101 | anyone knows this ERRORs? (ERROR ceilometer.dispatcher.gnocchi [-] Resource ec9daaf0-501b-433a-a465-152e85ab5c88 does not exist (HTTP 404)) | 08:53 |
| korean101 | i use Newton and Ocata releases | 08:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Lingyong Xu proposed openstack/aodh master: Enable some off-by-default checks https://review.openstack.org/476426 | 09:09 |
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| cristicalin | do I still need to deploy the ceilometer-api if I want to use gnocchi as the timeseries database ? | 12:44 |
| cristicalin | the docs say it will respond with a 410 if gnocchi is configured | 12:45 |
| cristicalin | so in this case which components do i still need to deploy from ceilometer ? | 12:45 |
| cristicalin | I'm doing this with mitaka | 12:45 |
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| gordc | cristicalin: you don't need to deploy ceilometer-api if you're using gnocchi. unless you want event storage. | 12:54 |
| cristicalin | gordc, no, I only need the samples part | 12:55 |
| cristicalin | isn't event storage done by panko these days ? | 12:55 |
| gordc | you will probably want to backport the ceilometer+gnocchi dispatcher code from newer code though if you're using mitaka | 12:55 |
| gordc | cristicalin: yes, but panko didn't official get release until newton | 12:56 |
| cristicalin | ok, I'll keep that in mind for the ocata shift | 12:56 |
| gordc | so you can use event storage in ceilometer in mitaka | 12:56 |
| cristicalin | we'll probably skip newton | 12:56 |
| gordc | cristicalin: makes sense | 12:56 |
| cristicalin | thanks | 12:56 |
| gordc | np | 12:57 |
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| cristicalin | gordc, do I need any ceilometer-dbsync in mitaka when running with gnocchi ? | 13:02 |
| cristicalin | as far as I can tell that one is only reserved for mysql/pg/es/mongo scenarii | 13:03 |
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| gordc | cristicalin: you're correct | 13:07 |
| gordc | no need for ceilometer-upgrade/dbsync | 13:08 |
| cristicalin | I get a lot of these: | 13:10 |
| cristicalin | 2017-06-22 13:10:12.018 14 WARNING ceilometer.coordination [req-101ba2f5-c609-4f8a-a699-acf038e332b1 - - - - -] Cannot extract tasks because agent failed to join group properly. Rejoining group. | 13:10 |
| cristicalin | 2017-06-22 13:10:12.020 14 INFO ceilometer.coordination [req-101ba2f5-c609-4f8a-a699-acf038e332b1 - - - - -] Joined partitioning group ceilometer.notification | 13:10 |
| cristicalin | any idea what it's complaining about ? | 13:11 |
| cristicalin | I use a twemproxy instance in front of 2 memcaches for coordination | 13:11 |
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| gordc | which log is that from? you have workload_partitioning enabled for some service | 13:11 |
| cristicalin | yes, I do | 13:12 |
| cristicalin | i's the agent-notification log | 13:12 |
| gordc | does the log keep throwing the warning or does it become an error at some point? | 13:13 |
| gordc | i do recall in previous builds there was some connection/racing issues if you had workload_partitionnig enabled and set multiple workers | 13:13 |
| gordc | but it should resolve itself | 13:14 |
| cristicalin | nope, doesn't throw an error | 13:14 |
| cristicalin | just these warnings | 13:14 |
| gordc | cristicalin: i'm guessing you don' thave debug on? | 13:15 |
| gordc | i think it should throw an error if it actually fails. | 13:16 |
| cristicalin | yes, I do | 13:16 |
| cristicalin | this is a staging build | 13:16 |
| gordc | cristicalin: do you see https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/stable/mitaka/ceilometer/coordination.py#L195 | 13:16 |
| gordc | something that says "my subset" | 13:16 |
| cristicalin | yes | 13:16 |
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| gordc | ok, as long as the list isn't empty, it's ok. | 13:16 |
| cristicalin | 2017-06-22 13:16:31.767 13 DEBUG ceilometer.coordination [req-28b7dd49-c223-4235-b884-e786d7e15e46 - - - - -] Members of group: ['b928918c-08c5-451e-bac1-aa4bbfcb5acc', 'e1ef82a6-02af-4f15-a40f-1320b2630c70', 'e9328785-1cec-43e5-9839-409089633ce3', '08d7588a-64ea-4934-90dc-624c79226f2f', '768a6cc2-f180-444f-bc97-77f50bc43c6e'], Me: 9c144019-32de-46eb-8d2f-ad0d2367fdc4 extract_my_subset /opt/ceilometer/lib/python2 | 13:16 |
| cristicalin | 2017-06-22 13:16:31.768 13 WARNING ceilometer.coordination [req-28b7dd49-c223-4235-b884-e786d7e15e46 - - - - -] Cannot extract tasks because agent failed to join group properly. Rejoining group. | 13:17 |
| cristicalin | 2017-06-22 13:16:31.770 13 INFO ceilometer.coordination [req-28b7dd49-c223-4235-b884-e786d7e15e46 - - - - -] Joined partitioning group ceilometer.notification | 13:17 |
| gordc | or you can just verify that all the pipeline queues have a consumer | 13:17 |
| gordc | we fixed this properly in ocata i believe so it doesn't do the retries | 13:17 |
| gordc | it retries because when we start multiple workers in older builds, it gets sort of racy when trying to register to coordination service. | 13:18 |
| cristicalin | maybe its my temproxy+memcache setup for coordination though | 13:19 |
| cristicalin | have you tested workload partitioning with memcache ? | 13:19 |
| cristicalin | to docs only speak about redis | 13:19 |
| cristicalin | as a coordinator | 13:19 |
| gordc | i've only used redis. and i don't operate a real cloud (handful of nodes). | 13:19 |
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| cristicalin | ok, going to deploy a redis cluster then | 13:23 |
| cristicalin | indeed group membership looks kind of wakky | 13:25 |
| cristicalin | I have 4 instances of the service with 1 worker each | 13:25 |
| cristicalin | there are 4 members in the group but the local member id is not in there | 13:25 |
| cristicalin | so yeah, probably memcache does not cut it | 13:26 |
| gordc | cristicalin: probably both. the group membership stuff was kind of hacky previously as well. | 13:33 |
| cristicalin | is the ocata patch backportable to mitaka ? | 13:33 |
| cristicalin | the one you memtioned fixes this hacky part | 13:34 |
| gordc | cristicalin: um.. there was two patches. one is kind of big and requires a fairly recent tooz release. | 13:35 |
| cristicalin | can you point me to the gerrit for them ? | 13:35 |
| gordc | the other fixed issue which relates to multiple workers in single service instance. so not really your scenario | 13:35 |
| gordc | cristicalin: the easiest 'fix' might be to try a more recent tooz to see if it handles concurrent member joins better. | 13:36 |
| cristicalin | like how recent ? | 13:37 |
| cristicalin | I have 1.34 | 13:37 |
| gordc | cristicalin: no idea. i'm not sure if there was a patch in tooz that directly addresssed this. | 13:37 |
| gordc | cristicalin: https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/commit/2726419a11fd3206c2dc75f1aa4639a42e0546b5 is the big patch | 13:37 |
| cristicalin | so head tooz is 1.57.2 ... so mine is quite the antique | 13:38 |
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| gordc | cristicalin: lesser change. https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/commit/9fcd66ec66657c4b597096a946635956c2b493f5 | 13:40 |
| cristicalin | can I do without workload partitioning ? | 13:40 |
| gordc | cristicalin: if you don't have transformers in your pipeline.yaml | 13:41 |
| cristicalin | I'm using the default pipeline.yaml which calculates some rates but I don't do anything with those rate parameters so I guess I could discard them | 13:43 |
| gordc | then in theory, you don't need it partitioning | 13:45 |
| cristicalin | on second thought , cpu_util might be used by some users of heat | 13:46 |
| cristicalin | but I'll explore the redis option first and the second patch is trivial to backport so maybe that provides enough to have a working version | 13:47 |
| gordc | ususally the issue is when you have multiple services/workers register at the same time. | 13:48 |
| cristicalin | ok, new error | 13:52 |
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| cristicalin | NoMatches: No 'ceilometer.publisher' driver found, looking for 'gnocchi' | 13:52 |
| gordc | cristicalin: i assume you're using ocata instructions? | 13:53 |
| cristicalin | i think so | 13:53 |
| gordc | cristicalin: you'll need to backport that if you want to run gnocchi as a publisher (i think) | 13:53 |
| cristicalin | what's on the developer site | 13:53 |
| gordc | yeah. | 13:53 |
| gordc | or something close to ocata | 13:53 |
| cristicalin | so gnocchi wasn't supported as a publisher in mitaka ? | 13:54 |
| gordc | i'm not sure when. | 13:54 |
| gordc | you can follow https://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/telemetry/ocata/install-base-rdo.html | 13:54 |
| gordc | which still references dispatcher (even though you don't need to) | 13:54 |
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| cristicalin | any chance this might work with the rest of the cloud being at mitaka level ? | 13:55 |
| gordc | you'll need https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/commit/f843b7882fb806cf564c5b3106f601815a48c93b if you want to drop collector service and use publisher directly | 13:55 |
| cristicalin | like have ceilometer ocata + aodh ocata running on top of a mitaka cloud ? | 13:55 |
| gordc | i think we only tested mitaka against gnocchiv2... which imo is not a pleasant experience | 13:56 |
| gordc | gnocchiv3/v4 are signficantly more useable. and the ceilometer+gnocchi integration is a bit more streamlined in newer builds to reduce number of http requests. | 13:56 |
| cristicalin | yeah, I've just built a gnocchi v4 with ceph backend | 13:56 |
| cristicalin | so I would need to talk to that | 13:57 |
| cristicalin | ok, lets see if I can get it to play nice with ocata | 13:57 |
| gordc | you should be able to just grab the gnocchi stuff here https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/tree/master/ceilometer/dispatcher to make mitaka useable with gnocchiv4 | 13:57 |
| gordc | also, this https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/gnocchi_client.py | 13:58 |
| gordc | and this https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/tree/master/ceilometer/dispatcher/data | 13:58 |
| cristicalin | hmm, that's a big chunk of code | 13:59 |
| gordc | yeah... i'm not sure how nubeliu did it... i imagine they just swapped the newer code over. | 14:00 |
| cristicalin | any chance that was supported in newton ? | 14:01 |
| gordc | possibly? but you're skipping newton anyways no? :P | 14:04 |
| cristicalin | yeah, its just that the ocata upgrade is not yet planned | 14:05 |
| gordc | the dispatcher code is in theory the last piece of code in ceilometer before it hands off to something else so in theory it should be less issues. | 14:05 |
| gordc | i added in theory a lot because i've never verified this.lol | 14:06 |
| cristicalin | OK, i'll dig into that backporting | 14:07 |
| gordc | kk | 14:07 |
| cristicalin | maybe I can get it to work on top of mitaka without moving everything else with it | 14:07 |
| cristicalin | was the collector able to publish to gnocchi in mitaka ? | 14:11 |
| cristicalin | maybe I can narrow down the piece of code to backport | 14:12 |
| gordc | the collector by default will be what pushes to storage (until master) | 14:13 |
| gordc | i think in eitehr newton or ocata, you can just use notification agent to push to minimise rabbitmq load. | 14:14 |
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| cristicalin | gordc, with the collector I got it to speak to gnocchi | 14:36 |
| cristicalin | but now it complains that there is no specific resource_type | 14:36 |
| gordc | cristicalin: awesome | 14:36 |
| cristicalin | is there any prepping that I need to do to make gnocchi know about these resource types ? | 14:36 |
| gordc | you'll need to run ceilometer-upgrade --skip-metering-database | 14:36 |
| cristicalin | erm, there is no ceilometer-upgrade in mitaka | 14:37 |
| gordc | it will build ceilomter resourece_types in gnocchi for you | 14:37 |
| gordc | oh... what'd you end up backporting? | 14:37 |
| cristicalin | nothing | 14:38 |
| cristicalin | I have mitaka ceilometer speaking to gnocchi v4.0 | 14:38 |
| cristicalin | maybe I need to get that ceilometer-upgrade tool backported | 14:38 |
| cristicalin | but the rest seems to work ... at least to the point that it talks to gnocchi over http :) | 14:38 |
| gordc | word? i feel like you're probably going to hit something further along... *shrugs* | 14:39 |
| gordc | i don't know if gnocchiv4 can still create ceilometer resources. | 14:39 |
| gordc | you can try running https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1344380 | 14:40 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1344380 in openstack-tripleo-heat-templates "Run gnocchi-upgrade with '--create-legacy-resource-types' during deployment" [Urgent,Closed: errata] - Assigned to pkilambi | 14:40 |
| cristicalin | really ? wasn't gnocchi borne to serve ceilometer ? I know now it's split from openstack but really ? | 14:40 |
| gordc | cristicalin: we expect the producer to create resources. gnocchi is just the consumer. | 14:41 |
| cristicalin | ok, so ceilometer should be the one creating the resources, that I understand | 14:41 |
| cristicalin | I just need to get it to create them | 14:41 |
| cristicalin | there was a gnocchi_resources.yaml file in mitaka | 14:42 |
| gordc | if the legacy thing doesn't work, you'll need to backport ceilometer-upgrade and this https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/gnocchi_client.py#L42-L100 | 14:42 |
| cristicalin | so I just need to find out how to use it to create the resources | 14:42 |
| gordc | or you can manually build them yourself. | 14:42 |
| cristicalin | I would go with the manual one-off tool | 14:42 |
| gordc | have a look at http://gnocchi.xyz/rest.html#resource-types | 14:43 |
| gordc | or if you want to use python client, the code upgrade code is https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/gnocchi_client.py#L150-L174 | 14:44 |
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| akrzos | gordc and jd,how many tasks/metrics does a metric processor decide to do each wake up? (or does it now continous process then go onto a processing delay until new measures show up?) | 14:54 |
| akrzos | (gnocchi v4) ^^ | 14:54 |
| akrzos | I'm running Gnocchi v4 right now and it's looking nicer than Gnocchi v3.1 with the mutli-sack and scheduler no longer there | 14:54 |
| gordc | akrzos: each worker is assigned a set of buckets and every metricd_processing_delay seconds it will scan through the sacks to see if there's work. | 14:56 |
| gordc | ideally, it shouldn't have to scan and should be able to detect that some other way but that's what it is for now. | 14:56 |
| akrzos | so more workers than sacks would be basiclly useless? | 14:56 |
| gordc | akrzos: there is some overlap by default. so a given sack (by default) is handled by 3 workers | 14:57 |
| gordc | but yes, in general, you shouldn't have more workers than sacks | 14:59 |
| gordc | you should have significantly more sacks than workers in practice (i imagine) | 14:59 |
| akrzos | so if there is overlap is it a race who picks up all the work out of a sack? | 14:59 |
| gordc | akrzos: yep, one of the workers will lock the entire sack and it alone will work on it | 15:00 |
| gordc | akrzos: https://github.com/gnocchixyz/gnocchi/blob/c78fc744385ef1304a3bc766f094112642effc41/gnocchi/opts.py#L137-L143 that's the option regarding worker overlap | 15:01 |
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| cristicalin | gordc, quick and dirty but works like a charm | 15:19 |
| cristicalin | http://paste.openstack.org/show/613408/ - if anybody else needs it | 15:20 |
| gordc | cristicalin: nice. | 15:27 |
| cristicalin | thanks for all the great help! | 15:32 |
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| gordc | not a problem. | 15:39 |
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| pradk | hey gordc ..any idea why i would get this when gnocchi api http://paste.openstack.org/show/613414/ .. recently started showing up, so wonder if something changed in gnocchi | 16:40 |
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| gordc | pradk: never seen that personally. something not timing out prooperly? | 16:46 |
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| pradk | gordc, yea not sure.. first time i'm seeing this as well | 17:21 |
| pradk | gordc, here is the full wsgi error log http://chunk.io/f/628e71b749d04fc8b0205cb8700d6a72 | 17:22 |
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| gordc | pradk: but it works sometimse? | 17:41 |
| pradk | well i just ran into it today | 17:42 |
| gordc | in that error log, does it actually accept requests at some points or it's just 40mins of constant errors? | 17:43 |
| pradk | gordc, in the error log its basically what i pasted .. in access log i see some 200's | 17:46 |
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| gordc | word? yeah i have no idea. | 18:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer master: expect oslo.messaging messages https://review.openstack.org/476664 | 19:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer master: post_test_hook: stop sourcing gnocchi/devstack/settings https://review.openstack.org/476123 | 20:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer master: stop converting to old message format https://review.openstack.org/476715 | 21:39 |
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