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| gokhan | good morning telemetry folks, I am testing telemetry projects, I see that on installation guide, it creates ceilometer service entity. for example ubuntu installation guide: https://docs.openstack.org/ceilometer/latest/install/install-base-ubuntu.html | 06:08 |
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| gokhan | but on devstack I can not see ceilometer service entity. | 06:08 |
| gokhan | is it needed ? I am not sure may be ceilometer service entity is being used somewhere I don't see. | 06:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/aodh master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/521722 | 07:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/524499 | 07:21 |
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| jd_ | gokhan: no I think it's a left over | 08:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/ceilometer master: doc: remove useless Ceilometer service creation https://review.openstack.org/524518 | 08:51 |
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| therve | Hola | 09:15 |
| therve | jd_, New "futures" releases in breaking gnocchi on python3 | 09:16 |
| therve | Can you tweak requirements.txt to not install it? | 09:16 |
| jd_ | therve: hi | 09:16 |
| jd_ | therve: do you have more details? | 09:16 |
| therve | jd_, http://logs.openstack.org/82/489682/1/gate/heat-functional-convg-mysql-lbaasv2-py35/d105fa6/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2017-12-01_07_57_34_685 | 09:16 |
| ramishra | jd_: http://logs.openstack.org/82/489682/1/gate/heat-functional-convg-mysql-lbaasv2-py35/d105fa6/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2017-12-01_07_57_34_685 | 09:16 |
| ramishra | oh I did the same;) | 09:17 |
| therve | futures decided to break on py3 because haha screw users | 09:17 |
| therve | Something like ;python_version=='2.7' on the line should do the trick | 09:18 |
| jd_ | yeah that's what I was thinking therve | 09:18 |
| jd_ | I'll send a patch | 09:18 |
| therve | Thanks! | 09:18 |
| jd_ | https://github.com/gnocchixyz/gnocchi/pull/526 | 09:19 |
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| BlackDex | Hello there. My mongodb is 450G large. It seems this is due to the ceilometer database. How can i clean/shrink the size? I have run the ceilometer-expirer already. The ttl was set to -1, i have changed it to 2 weeks, and run the expirer tool after that. | 09:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/aodh master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/521722 | 09:50 |
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| BlackDex | win 30 | 10:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/524499 | 10:43 |
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| gordc | jd_: in case you have an opinion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1735577 | 13:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1735577 in Ceilometer "stable/ocata doesn't support gnocchiclient>=4" [Undecided,New] | 13:45 |
| jd_ | gordc: cap | 13:49 |
| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: gerrit has been restarted to get it back to its normal speed. | 13:52 | |
| gordc | jd_: didn't think you'd say cap. glad to see we in same boat. :) | 13:53 |
| jd_ | it's easy and good enough | 13:53 |
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| jd_ | if anyone wants to support the later then (s)he'll fix it :) | 13:53 |
| * gordc looks at ocata-eol date | 13:54 | |
| gordc | guess we're capping it for good | 13:54 |
| gordc | although we did confirm even with 3.1.0+ocata, it works fine with gnocchi 4.1.1 | 13:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer stable/ocata: cap gnocchiclient https://review.openstack.org/524615 | 14:01 |
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| jd_ | gordc: good to be confirmed :) | 14:04 |
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| chandankumar | jd_: sileht hello | 14:54 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer stable/ocata: cap gnocchiclient https://review.openstack.org/524615 | 14:56 |
| chandankumar | jd_: sileht based on discussion with tempest team from yesterday qa meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-11-30-08.00.log.html#l-95, tempest is a test suite not a test runner, so gabbi tests is not going to be a part of tempest | 14:58 |
| chandankumar | jd_: sileht i was checking aodh and panko repos, for aodh there are few tests | 14:58 |
| chandankumar | and for panko, there is just tempest plugin with no tests | 14:58 |
| chandankumar | jd_: sileht can we delete the tempest plugin from aodh and panko? what you say? | 14:59 |
| jd_ | hi chandankumar | 14:59 |
| jd_ | "tempest is a test suite not a test runner" | 14:59 |
| jd_ | sigh | 14:59 |
| jd_ | chandankumar: we don't care about them but people like EmilienM do, so ask him | 15:00 |
| chandankumar | stestr/testr is used behind the scenes to run the tempest tests, stevedore discovers it using entry point | 15:00 |
| chandankumar | EmilienM: what you suggest on this? | 15:01 |
| jd_ | chandankumar: I think the thing is that TripleO (therefore EmilienM) know how to run tests with Tempest-that-is-not-a-test-runner but they don't know how to run them with e.g. Gabbi | 15:01 |
| sileht | such a joke ... | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | indeed, our CI tooling doesn't run Gabbi now | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | our CI tooling is an ansible role in tripleo-quickstart-extras | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | in tripleo, we're just interested by the autoscaling test | 15:02 |
| jd_ | chandankumar: so Tempest is just a lib therefore? are you going to remove the tempest CLI tool that launch the tests? | 15:02 |
| chandankumar | https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras/blob/master/roles/validate-tempest/templates/run-tempest.sh.j2 | 15:03 |
| sileht | I think QA team haven't got or even looks how we make the glue between tempest and gabbi ... | 15:03 |
| chandankumar | jd_: tempest is a test suite + framework | 15:03 |
| sileht | they talks about stuff they have looked at, awesome | 15:03 |
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| sileht | chandankumar, we wrote a tempest plugin that run a test that do autoscaling | 15:04 |
| sileht | this use gabbi (as library and not as executable) to run our scenario | 15:04 |
| chandankumar | https://github.com/openstack/panko/tree/master/panko/tests/tempest | 15:04 |
| sileht | s/have looked at/haven't looked at | 15:04 |
| chandankumar | sileht: the heat team is also using gabbi for running tests | 15:05 |
| chandankumar | sileht: there is a thread going for the same | 15:05 |
| sileht | chandankumar, yeah but they doesn't use our glue ? | 15:05 |
| sileht | chandankumar, can you explain the problem you're are trying to solve, instead of asking us to delete our tests ? | 15:06 |
| jd_ | that's a good point sileht | 15:07 |
| jd_ | what's the problem? :) | 15:07 |
| sileht | our tempest plugins just works ... and already run upstream, puppet-module, rdo-packing and tripleo, so ... | 15:08 |
| sileht | It takes me 2 years to have integration testing of telemetry projects, I don't think I will be OK to destroy that.. | 15:08 |
| chandankumar | sileht: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat_integrationtests/api/test_heat_api.py through this they load the tests and run it | 15:09 |
| sileht | It's not the same glue as us, but that may work too | 15:10 |
| chandankumar | sileht: i am trying to achieve the tempest plugin split goal work in order to solve the packaging and tests failure debugging issue through this goal | 15:11 |
| sileht | our tempest plugins is already packaged and run on scenario001 of rdo/tripleo on every telemetry/rdo/puppet/tripleo commit ? | 15:13 |
| sileht | what do we miss to do ? | 15:13 |
| chandankumar | sileht: https://www.rdoproject.org/blog/2017/01/writing-rpm-macros-for-openstack/ | 15:13 |
| sileht | chandankumar, ok, so you just need a seperate python package ? | 15:14 |
| chandankumar | sileht: yup, i need a seperate package which we store the tests | 15:15 |
| sileht | (and that doesn't require a separate repo, setuptools supports that in same git) | 15:15 |
| chandankumar | due to branchless nature of tempest, we wanted to keep the tests also branchless so we wanted to move a new repo as use setuptools to place the tests at proper place so that tmepest discovers and run ut | 15:16 |
| sileht | chandankumar, I suggest you to move ceilometer/tests/integration and ceilometer/tests/tempest in ceilometer_tempest and just add ceilometer_tempest in setup.cfg[packages] | 15:16 |
| chandankumar | sileht: but still we are keeping the tests in same repo na? | 15:18 |
| sileht | yes :) | 15:18 |
| chandankumar | sileht: but it does not solves the entrypoint issue as it created one egg-info file | 15:18 |
| chandankumar | sileht: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/congress/tree/congress_tempest_tests/tests/scenario/manager_congress.py#n81 | 15:19 |
| chandankumar | aodh tempest tests is also used by congress, if we move to a seperate repo, they can just a create a dependency and consume it | 15:19 |
| jd_ | chandankumar: I've the feeling they are several issue trying to be solved at the same time: branchless tests, tempest test shipping/discovery, etc… | 15:21 |
| chandankumar | jd_: yup, https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/queens/split-tempest-plugins.html#split-tempest-plugins-into-separate-repos-projects | 15:21 |
| jd_ | chandankumar: we basically are out of the Tempest business, we're just providing a glue for people to use Tempest as they used to | 15:21 |
| chandankumar | it explains the problem we are trying to solve | 15:21 |
| jd_ | chandankumar: most of the points here are about requirements, which telemetry projects are not a part of and have therefore none of the problem listed here | 15:22 |
| jd_ | chandankumar: especially because well, we don't use tempest neither | 15:22 |
| sileht | chandankumar, if you need different entry_points, yeah you can only split repos to fix the issue ... | 15:23 |
| jd_ | chandankumar: so I've the feeling that everyone took a twisted path to solve a problem that well, we never had in the first place here | 15:23 |
| jd_ | chandankumar: so I understand that when you have an hammer, everything looks like a nail, but, maybe we should not be hammered? :) | 15:24 |
| jd_ | chandankumar: to get back to sileht original point, is there any problem with the current Gabbi/Tempest wrapper that we provide? | 15:24 |
| chandankumar | jd_: i donot think there would be any problem with the wrapper | 15:25 |
| sileht | jd_, no this is not the point, the real issue is to have two egg_info, one with ceilometer, the other with only the tempest plugins, the glue and the gabbit scenario | 15:25 |
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| jd_ | sileht: or we teach projects to run Gabbi and we get out of this Tempest business? | 15:26 |
| chandankumar | does gabbit scenarios are different for different releases? or they are backward compatibles | 15:26 |
| sileht | jd_, it's just more thing to manage for us ... just to remove a macro in a rpm | 15:26 |
| jd_ | chandankumar: they are API tests so supposedly N works with N+1 | 15:26 |
| sileht | chandankumar, they are just API call, and haven't changed a lot, so they should work on all version | 15:26 |
| sileht | at least stable ones | 15:27 |
| jd_ | chandankumar: though I expect everybody right now to run tests from the branch they use anyway | 15:27 |
| cdent | I assume you’re aware of the “being branchless is really really really important” thing? | 15:28 |
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| sileht | cdent, except it's false, their tag version and downstream/rdo they backport fix them self | 15:29 |
| sileht | cdent, so branch are handled by rdo/downstream instead of upstream | 15:29 |
| jd_ | cdent: pffrrrrrttt? | 15:30 |
| cdent | I think, however, that’s really for interop and validation tests and I think those should be separate: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521602/ | 15:30 |
| cdent | yeah, I think there’s too many overlapping concerns in one place | 15:30 |
| cdent | it leads to such a mess | 15:30 |
| jd_ | cdent: my point earlier: [16:21:03] <jd_>chandankumar: I've the feeling they are several issue trying to be solved at the same time: branchless tests, tempest test shipping/discovery, etc… | 15:31 |
| cdent | yes! | 15:31 |
| jd_ | I think our best bet right now is to move out of Tempest entirely sileht | 15:32 |
| jd_ | it seems that providing a Tempest glue labels us as being Tempest users or test provided | 15:32 |
| jd_ | provider* | 15:32 |
| sileht | jd_, we can't it's really too important to not break ship pipeline | 15:32 |
| jd_ | and therefore brings chandankumar trying to make us branchless etc | 15:32 |
| jd_ | sileht: well we can keep the feature and build it with gabbi, no? | 15:33 |
| sileht | jd_, you can't ask tripleo/puppet folks and downstream QE to use a new tools just for us | 15:34 |
| chandankumar | if it is going to be branchless, they have tag based released , a particular tag will work for a release | 15:34 |
| cdent | what’s the blocker on using tempest containing gabbi tests? | 15:35 |
| cdent | is it the separate repo thing? | 15:35 |
| chandankumar | cdent: yup the seperate repo thing | 15:35 |
| chandankumar | gabbi glue with tempest will also work if we move a new repo | 15:36 |
| sileht | chandankumar, if we split the repo, how the process to not break CI of puppet/rdo/tripleo ? | 15:38 |
| chandankumar | sileht: puppet/rdo/tripleo based on packages, once we move a new repo new package will be created | 15:39 |
| sileht | chandankumar, it will replace the current one ? | 15:39 |
| sileht | and in theory that should just work | 15:39 |
| chandankumar | for RDO, we will rename it from queens release | 15:39 |
| chandankumar | sileht: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:add-zaqar-tempest-plugin+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 15:40 |
| chandankumar | sileht: https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/q/topic:add-zaqar-tempest-plugin | 15:40 |
| sileht | chandankumar, I see | 15:40 |
| chandankumar | till pike everything will be same | 15:40 |
| chandankumar | and from queens, we need to send patches to a new repo | 15:41 |
| chandankumar | sileht: on packaging side, i can take care of that without breaking anythinhg | 15:41 |
| sileht | cool | 15:42 |
| chandankumar | keystone, zaqar, watcher is already done, it has a long list of same things is done for rdo packaging | 15:42 |
| chandankumar | sileht: we can also do that https://github.com/rdo-packages/keystone-distgit/blob/rpm-master/openstack-keystone.spec#L116 | 15:43 |
| chandankumar | so that user does not affected | 15:43 |
| jd_ | we could also do nothing since we have no problem to solve | 15:44 |
| jd_ | just saying :) | 15:44 |
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| chandankumar | so i think we are now fine with tempest plugin split goal | 15:45 |
| chandankumar | ? | 15:45 |
| * chandankumar is too late, need to rush. | 15:47 | |
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| sileht | if that's really a so important thing... why not, I'm less afraid of the change, I still don't like to have new repos to maintain but I don't see another solutions for us | 15:47 |
| sileht | chandankumar, thx for your explaination | 15:47 |
| chandankumar | sileht: it is basically towards the community goal fulfillment | 15:48 |
| * sileht is still thinking, all these changes to just remove the rpm macro is a lot of work... | 15:48 | |
| chandankumar | sileht: jd_ thanks :-) i will put the review up soon | 15:48 |
| jd_ | what? Swift now supports Python 3? | 15:48 |
| sileht | chandankumar, what about putting all telemetry tempest stuff into the same repo ? | 15:50 |
| cdent | I was going to suggest that | 15:51 |
| chandankumar | sileht: that will also fine | 15:51 |
| chandankumar | sileht: ironic and ironic-inspector is going to merged to ironic tempest plugin | 15:51 |
| sileht | chandankumar, all share the same glue | 15:51 |
| chandankumar | sileht: might be neutron is also going to do the same | 15:51 |
| chandankumar | panko has no tempest tests | 15:52 |
| sileht | chandankumar, panko tests are in ceilometer tests | 15:52 |
| sileht | chandankumar, some of gnocchi and aodh are already in ceilometer tests | 15:52 |
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| sileht | chandankumar, since most of the tests in aodh/gnocchi/panko need Ceilometer to work | 15:53 |
| chandankumar | let me create a seperate repo in gh and do a testing and move with the plan? | 15:53 |
| chandankumar | repo with all the telemetry tests | 15:53 |
| sileht | chandankumar, that would be awesome and just one new repo instead of 4 perhaps more | 15:53 |
| sileht | chandankumar, for the glue, the latest version is the one in ceilometer | 15:54 |
| chandankumar | sure, i will start working on monday | 15:54 |
| sileht | chandankumar, the aodh/gnocchi clue is laggy behind with an older version | 15:55 |
| chandankumar | yup, | 15:56 |
| chandankumar | sileht: i am logging out, my mind is kinda stuck, will take a look on monday. | 15:57 |
| sileht | ack, thx | 15:57 |
| chandankumar | good night guys, see ya on monday. | 15:57 |
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