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| ganso | mrunge: hi! Is there any page I can check the current status of the project? THe wiki at the channel topic is a bit outdated (last meeting took place in 2019 from what I could find), the most up-to-date info I was able to find was this etherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/telemetry-train-roadmap | 20:14 |
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| mrunge | ganso, hi, what do you want to know? | 20:51 |
| mrunge | maybe it's easier that way? | 20:51 |
| mrunge | at the moment, I am not aware of a status overview. maybe lxkong or dtruong have it. Usually, a status update is given at summits, the last happened last year | 20:53 |
| ganso | mrunge: are there meetings that I can participate to be involved with the direction of telemetry? I see that some key points were raised about adding back Ceilometer API, MongoDB, switch to Monasca, etc, where could I follow those decisions and also contribute to what is being or has been decided? In Gerrit I don't see storyboard links or Launchpad links on the changes, in Storyboard I don't see any Victoria set of tasks that I could follow or | 20:54 |
| ganso | pick up to work (as the general direction seems unclear at the moment, as the info there is stale) | 20:54 |
| ganso | mrunge: yup, the last status I found is from december on the mailing list. But development tracking seems to end there | 20:55 |
| mrunge | I have no insight into company policies or companies joining or leaving. | 20:55 |
| mrunge | you are speaking of ceilometer? | 20:56 |
| mrunge | or also gnocchi? | 20:56 |
| mrunge | clients? | 20:56 |
| mrunge | aodh? | 20:56 |
| mrunge | panko? | 20:56 |
| ganso | telemetry in general. I don' | 20:57 |
| mrunge | since we are getting near to next release, I would suggest to test it and to file bugs | 20:57 |
| ganso | I was using gnocchi, but I see it is unmaintained, so I tracked down ceilometer and that ^ is what I found | 20:57 |
| mrunge | honestly, that'd be a great help | 20:57 |
| ganso | yup, but it is unclear to me how I can get involved as all source of info seems stale and there are no meetings or active bug trackers to keep track of the work or the direction the team is taking | 20:59 |
| ganso | since I was using gnocchi, I was initially looking for info on how to replace it. So I found Ceilometer API and MongoDB are on the roadmap, even though a lot of people diverge on this (from the mailing list) | 21:00 |
| mrunge | I agree, it would be a good idea to get together and come up with a plan for next development cycle | 21:00 |
| mrunge | right | 21:00 |
| mrunge | it is still to discuss how to proceed with ceilometer api, mongodb etc. | 21:02 |
| mrunge | personally (not speaking for the project), I see ceilometer as a collecting agent | 21:02 |
| mrunge | I'd use something else for a time-series database (such as gnocchi) | 21:03 |
| mrunge | etc. | 21:03 |
| mrunge | there is still work to do on how to do autoscaling, if you want to get rid of gnocchi | 21:03 |
| mrunge | or step forward and support gnocchi | 21:04 |
| ganso | mrunge: so it is up to the deployers to come up with something to consume the data ceilometer collects. What you are saying is that storing/handling the data collected is not part of the OpenStack telemetry scope? | 21:04 |
| mrunge | openstack telemetry consists of several losely coupled projects | 21:05 |
| mrunge | and you can pick the components you like to use | 21:05 |
| mrunge | that is a nice way to put it | 21:05 |
| mrunge | looking at the "support" status, that's a different story | 21:06 |
| ganso | right, I'd choose the pieces that are supported and maintained though, but figuring that out has been a challenge of its own, as it seems the only piece that is consistently supported is the data collection through ceilometer | 21:07 |
| mrunge | yes, that's true | 21:08 |
| ganso | I still need to explore how integration with cloudkitty, prometheus and monasca would work. Those have been suggested by a mailing list | 21:08 |
| mrunge | okay, what do you want to achieve? | 21:09 |
| mrunge | or what do you want to collect for what reason? | 21:09 |
| mrunge | depending on your needs, you may be fine with just ceilometer in it's original (and now restored) state | 21:11 |
| mrunge | ceilometer had its own database to store metrics and events. that was split out to own components gnocchi and panko for speed reasons and also because they were easier to handle that way | 21:12 |
| mrunge | in the past more active cycle, it was decided to bring that back | 21:12 |
| mrunge | ganso, for large deployments or fast sample rates, I'd move as much as possible from the monitored infrastructure | 21:15 |
| mrunge | there is e.g STF, https://infrawatch.github.io/documentation/ | 21:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/telemetry-tempest-plugin master: [goal] Migrate telemetry-tempest-plugin jobs to focal https://review.opendev.org/744059 | 21:21 |
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