hub_cap | :o | 00:00 |
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radez | --region regionOne | 00:00 |
radez | Token aquired! Saving to /root/.apitoken... | 00:00 |
radez | that was it... | 00:00 |
radez | thx for the tip off amcrn | 00:00 |
amcrn | np | 00:00 |
radez | hub_cap: I'll be in touch soon I hope, finishing leanrning enough to pass off that i can test the package for submission to fedora | 00:00 |
amcrn | one could argue if there's only a single region, it should pick that (despite it not exactly matching RegionOne)... | 00:01 |
hub_cap | hoooooooooooooray | 00:01 |
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hub_cap | cant wait to have pkgs | 00:01 |
radez | amcrn: yea our installer for some reason thinks it needs to set the region in a different case... kinda nutty | 00:01 |
radez | so we have to make adjustments :( | 00:01 |
radez | hub_cap: amcrn: one more question if I could... what's the difference betweek trove-api and trove-server? | 00:02 |
radez | I see files in bin/ for both of them | 00:02 |
amcrn | trove-taskmanager? | 00:02 |
radez | but it doesn't appear I should run them at the same time | 00:03 |
hub_cap | trove-server is for tests only | 00:03 |
hub_cap | dont pkg it | 00:03 |
amcrn | ah, <i>that</i> trove-server | 00:03 |
hub_cap | ya dude | 00:03 |
hub_cap | ... | 00:03 |
radez | http://fpaste.org/45959/14498271/ | 00:03 |
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radez | ah, gotcha | 00:04 |
radez | I'll yank it out | 00:04 |
radez | and use api instead :) | 00:04 |
amcrn | hub_cap: i've got a searing headache, gimme a break :P | 00:04 |
hub_cap | nononono i was lamenting | 00:04 |
amcrn | haha i know | 00:04 |
hub_cap | rolling my eyes w u | 00:04 |
hub_cap | ok now im rolling them at u | 00:04 |
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amcrn | well deserved rolling on my part | 00:04 |
hub_cap | (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | 00:05 |
radez | kk, so -api -taskmanager and -guestagent should be running correct? | 00:05 |
hub_cap | guestagent should be running only _in_ a vm | 00:05 |
hub_cap | we really need to split the guest into its own pkg | 00:06 |
hub_cap | api and tmgr run the infrastructure | 00:06 |
hub_cap | each vm runs a guestagent | 00:06 |
hub_cap | and -cli is not used anymore, we can remove it | 00:06 |
hub_cap | as well as mgmt-cli | 00:06 |
hub_cap | now its just trove | 00:06 |
hub_cap | and thats the troveclient binary | 00:06 |
radez | hub_cap: yes, it is | 00:07 |
radez | the guest is in it's own pkg | 00:07 |
hub_cap | it is? great! | 00:08 |
radez | hub_cap: is it just trove in the 2013.2 stuff or in 2014.1 | 00:08 |
hub_cap | thatll make our life easier | 00:08 |
hub_cap | well... | 00:08 |
hub_cap | we just released it, id like to see it in 2013.2 too | 00:08 |
radez | hub_cap: yea I put taskmgr and guest agent into their own pkg | 00:08 |
hub_cap | if that ship hasnt sailed | 00:08 |
radez | and there's allso a common pkg that all of them dep on | 00:08 |
hub_cap | coo | 00:09 |
radez | kk, I've been using -2013.2-1.a57 | 00:09 |
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hub_cap | sweet | 00:09 |
radez | to package and test on a havana host | 00:09 |
radez | but it still has -cli in it | 00:09 |
radez | is there a new branch I should build from that's havana and doesn't have -cli in it? | 00:10 |
radez | on a side note... hub_cap will you be at HK? would love to meet you and some of the trove team | 00:10 |
hub_cap | radez: yes all of core will be ther | 00:10 |
hub_cap | same here | 00:11 |
radez | very cool, I'll have to stop by some of the design sessions | 00:11 |
hub_cap | plz do | 00:11 |
hub_cap | amcrn: was gonna go | 00:12 |
hub_cap | but apparently he has a saying | 00:12 |
hub_cap | bro's b4 hk's | 00:12 |
radez | lol | 00:12 |
hub_cap | hes a best man at his buds wedding i think | 00:12 |
radez | amcrn: good choice... | 00:13 |
hub_cap | pssh | 00:13 |
radez | so is there a particular commit/branch something that I should be building from? | 00:13 |
hub_cap | we have a h2 | 00:14 |
hub_cap | rc2 | 00:14 |
hub_cap | https://github.com/openstack/trove/tree/2013.2.rc2 | 00:14 |
radez | perfect | 00:14 |
hub_cap | thats what we will make our 2013.2 | 00:14 |
radez | I'll build from that to finalize what I submit to fedora | 00:15 |
radez | 094121 | 00:15 |
radez | oops, sry | 00:15 |
hub_cap | huuuh | 00:15 |
hub_cap | is that a gpg key or something | 00:15 |
radez | otp | 00:15 |
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radez | I have a yubi key on my laptop that I hit sometimes | 00:15 |
hub_cap | :) | 00:16 |
hub_cap | ok i must go now, gotta get redy for 10th anniversary dinner | 00:16 |
hub_cap | thx radez for doing great things w our pkgs | 00:17 |
radez | hub_cap: congrats, pleasure to help you guys out | 00:17 |
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hub_cap | GD bart strike | 06:53 |
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dmakogon_home | hub_cap: still up ?))) | 07:04 |
hub_cap | heh | 07:05 |
hub_cap | not working | 07:05 |
hub_cap | just goofing off till my son goes to sleep | 07:05 |
hub_cap | he woke up | 07:05 |
dmakogon_home | ah | 07:05 |
hub_cap | ls | 07:05 |
hub_cap | hahah | 07:05 |
hub_cap | shit | 07:05 |
dmakogon_home | could we talk about delivery of GA ? | 07:06 |
hub_cap | hahah no ;) | 07:06 |
dmakogon_home | doh | 07:06 |
hub_cap | u can talk but i will likely not answer | 07:06 |
dmakogon_home | beer ? | 07:06 |
hub_cap | yes | 07:06 |
hub_cap | a lot | 07:06 |
hub_cap | beer | 07:06 |
hub_cap | whiskye | 07:06 |
hub_cap | sake | 07:06 |
hub_cap | and more beer | 07:06 |
dmakogon_home | drunk ? | 07:06 |
hub_cap | i hold my liquor well | 07:06 |
hub_cap | but ive had a good bit | 07:07 |
hub_cap | i ate raw chicken too | 07:07 |
hub_cap | i had one of the best dinners ive ever had | 07:07 |
amytron | hub_cap: smh | 07:07 |
hub_cap | amytron: !! :) | 07:07 |
amytron | oh yea, happy anniversary | 07:07 |
amytron | :) | 07:07 |
hub_cap | thx! | 07:07 |
hub_cap | i had 2x raw chicken dishes | 07:07 |
hub_cap | and some other thigns im not even sure what they were | 07:07 |
dmakogon_home | do not forget about eating fruits))) | 07:08 |
dmakogon_home | health food | 07:08 |
hub_cap | dmakogon_home heh i had a apple and a banana today! | 07:08 |
hub_cap | and http://www.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/yamazaki-18-year-old-whisky/ | 07:08 |
hub_cap | ^ ^ health food | 07:08 |
hub_cap | but srsly dmakogon_home, id like to get a few peoples opinion on delivery of the guest agent | 07:09 |
hub_cap | my requirements are that it gets new code every time a instance is provisioned | 07:10 |
dmakogon_home | hub_cap: have you ever traveld to Aspen ? | 07:10 |
hub_cap | so that if you are editing it, you can just provision a new instance | 07:10 |
hub_cap | dmakogon_home: nope, but ive been to lucerne ;) | 07:10 |
dmakogon_home | do like winter sports ? | 07:11 |
dmakogon_home | amytron: hi, Amy, nice ti see(read) you | 07:11 |
hub_cap | i watch teh winder olympics :) | 07:11 |
hub_cap | amytron: no its not ;) | 07:11 |
hub_cap | its 2am your time | 07:12 |
hub_cap | u should be dreaming of your condo | 07:12 |
dmakogon_home | mine is 10AM | 07:12 |
amytron | :) | 07:12 |
amytron | im so excited about it!! | 07:12 |
hub_cap | dmakogon_home yup... going to HK will be so crazy | 07:12 |
amytron | they accepted my offer | 07:12 |
hub_cap | WHAT?!???!!? GRATZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ | 07:12 |
hub_cap | now u feel like a realty pimp | 07:12 |
dmakogon_home | lol | 07:12 |
dmakogon_home | hub_cap: http://pics.rofl.to/media/data/pic-a76ab1b653129845c3a9e81744d1272a-full.jpg | 07:14 |
hub_cap | OMG | 07:14 |
hub_cap | hahahaaha | 07:14 |
hub_cap | dmakogon_home: http://www.flickr.com/photos/courtenay/507398596/lightbox/ | 07:14 |
dmakogon_home | hub_cap: swag | 07:15 |
hub_cap | thats me | 07:15 |
hub_cap | amytron: http://www.flickr.com/photos/courtenay/507398616/in/photostream/lightbox/ | 07:15 |
dmakogon_home | i know | 07:15 |
hub_cap | look at how young i look | 07:15 |
hub_cap | that was like 6 yrs ago almost now | 07:15 |
hub_cap | dmakogon_home hell ya dude | 07:16 |
amytron | whoa. i was about to say.. zander is so big now! | 07:16 |
hub_cap | HAHAAH | 07:17 |
hub_cap | hes gonna be a pretty boy | 07:17 |
hub_cap | not like my gross beardo butt | 07:18 |
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hub_cap | amytron: https://scontent-a-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/994356_605383812834060_1058636062_n.jpg | 07:18 |
amytron | omg | 07:19 |
hub_cap | :D | 07:19 |
amytron | i dont think he's yours | 07:19 |
amytron | :) | 07:19 |
hub_cap | i know!!!! | 07:19 |
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hub_cap | https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1378493_601414659897642_1903261816_n.jpg | 07:19 |
hub_cap | https://scontent-a-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/559245_593081514064290_1733649650_n.jpg | 07:20 |
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hub_cap | HOOOOOOORAY | 07:31 |
hub_cap | i was staying up for one reason | 07:31 |
hub_cap | http://www.mercurynews.com/bart/ci_24281879/bart-negotiations-continue-but-tensions-escalate-strike-deadline | 07:31 |
hub_cap | bart strike averted | 07:31 |
hub_cap | dmakogon_home: think of some ways you can imagine the guest being installed. my only requirement is that if you are developing locally, you can edit the code, prov a new instance, and have the new code be in the new instance | 07:32 |
dmakogon_home | hub_cap: seems like automated package building | 07:33 |
dmakogon_home | hub_cap: post-setup-configuration hooks | 07:34 |
hub_cap | yes possibly but i dont want to have to build a package every time i spin up an instance | 07:34 |
hub_cap | its not going ot be an easy solution | 07:34 |
hub_cap | and frankly, a _real_ solution might be different from teh development solution | 07:34 |
hub_cap | but ill leave it to you to think of creative soltuions | 07:36 |
dmakogon_home | hub_cap: i mean, after trove gets installed one of the hooks will build deb/rpm and push it to some repo | 07:36 |
hub_cap | yes but if i want to edit a line of code in the guest | 07:36 |
hub_cap | do i want to do a bunch of "build/package/push to some repo" to test it | 07:36 |
dmakogon_home | you are suppose to rum this hook again | 07:36 |
hub_cap | that slows development time though | 07:36 |
dmakogon_home | *run | 07:37 |
hub_cap | thats why the existing system just rsync's the trove/ directory in | 07:37 |
dmakogon_home | than OpenShift-Git style | 07:37 |
hub_cap | edit code, provision new instance, new code is in the instance | 07:37 |
hub_cap | yes possibly dmakogon_home | 07:37 |
hub_cap | but then you have to be running a git server locally | 07:37 |
dmakogon_home | somehow i like it | 07:37 |
dmakogon_home | no | 07:37 |
dmakogon_home | it doesn't works that way | 07:38 |
dmakogon_home | you current repo is pushed via ssh to instance | 07:38 |
hub_cap | but git+ssh: | 07:38 |
dmakogon_home | yes | 07:38 |
hub_cap | might just work | 07:38 |
amytron | hi dmakogon_home :) | 07:38 |
dmakogon_home | amytron:hi) | 07:38 |
hub_cap | amytron: latest. response. evar. | 07:38 |
amytron | going to bed guys … have a good one | 07:38 |
amytron | i know | 07:38 |
hub_cap | cu | 07:38 |
amytron | i just realized i was being rude | 07:38 |
amytron | my bad | 07:38 |
hub_cap | gl w/ the house contract | 07:38 |
dmakogon_home | hub_cap: slowmotion | 07:38 |
hub_cap | hahahha dmakogon_home | 07:38 |
hub_cap | maybe she had whiskey | 07:39 |
amytron | vodka | 07:39 |
amytron | :) | 07:39 |
dmakogon_home | hub_cap: not even once | 07:39 |
hub_cap | nice | 07:39 |
amytron | peace out | 07:39 |
hub_cap | l8 | 07:39 |
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hub_cap | dmakogon_home: im about ot sleep too, but think of a solution that involves git+ssh | 07:39 |
dmakogon_home | hub_cap: ne 2 | 07:39 |
hub_cap | thats the best solution | 07:39 |
dmakogon_home | *me 2 | 07:39 |
dmakogon_home | last thought | 07:39 |
hub_cap | yes | 07:40 |
dmakogon_home | don't leave | 07:40 |
hub_cap | whats up | 07:40 |
hub_cap | im here | 07:40 |
dmakogon_home | Agent as a Service | 07:40 |
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dmakogon_home | savanna would need it, we need it | 07:40 |
dmakogon_home | someone else would need it | 07:40 |
hub_cap | yes we have spoken already about moving the guest to its own repo | 07:41 |
hub_cap | its on teh list of things to do | 07:41 |
hub_cap | so that its separate | 07:41 |
hub_cap | is that what u mean? | 07:41 |
dmakogon_home | almost, but not | 07:41 |
hub_cap | all of core agrees its best | 07:41 |
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dmakogon_home | OS service that would deliver agent on VM | 07:42 |
dmakogon_home | and than create heat resource for it | 07:42 |
hub_cap | ahh ic | 07:42 |
dmakogon_home | and each service that needs it | 07:42 |
dmakogon_home | would just use specific managent api impl and deliver it as parameter | 07:43 |
hub_cap | sure i think we could get there eventualy | 07:44 |
dmakogon_home | i suppose this agent would have RPC (standard) interface | 07:44 |
hub_cap | its a good idea i tink | 07:44 |
dmakogon_home | Mirantis has Murano service | 07:44 |
dmakogon_home | it also delivers agent that could do anything on VM | 07:45 |
dmakogon_home | i would speak with those guys, possibly today, and i would ask them what they think about such concept | 07:45 |
hub_cap | ++ | 07:46 |
hub_cap | do that while we are sleeping | 07:46 |
dmakogon_home | also, we need to design framework in oslo for agents impl | 07:46 |
hub_cap | yup | 07:48 |
hub_cap | ok i relly must to go to sleep | 07:48 |
hub_cap | really* | 07:48 |
hub_cap | or else i wont be able to wake up tomrrow :) | 07:49 |
hub_cap | talk to murano and savanna | 07:49 |
hub_cap | see if they like the idea of a consolidated guest | 07:49 |
hub_cap | i like the idea | 07:49 |
hub_cap | cu | 07:49 |
dmakogon_home | cu 2 | 07:49 |
ikhudoshyn_ | Den, u seem haven't sleep too)) | 07:51 |
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dmakogon_home | ikhudoshyn_, nope | 08:01 |
dmakogon_home | ikhudoshyn_ i'm onmy way to office, could be late | 08:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Denis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Update for mysql execs https://review.openstack.org/51200 | 12:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Illia Khudoshyn proposed a change to openstack/trove: Initial support for single instance MongoDB support https://review.openstack.org/50597 | 13:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Illia Khudoshyn proposed a change to openstack/trove: Initial support for single instance MongoDB support https://review.openstack.org/50597 | 15:04 |
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datsun180b | So what do I need to do to get eyeballs on my Conductor work | 15:08 |
datsun180b | I think I need one more devstack +2 so that gets merged, at least | 15:09 |
datsun180b | My review in trove won't pass real tests until the devstack review is merged, though. | 15:10 |
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kevinconway | datsun180b: i put a review into devstack this morning. i should expect it to merged soon right? | 15:23 |
datsun180b | barf | 15:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Ed Cranford proposed a change to openstack/trove: Implements trove-conductor. https://review.openstack.org/45116 | 15:24 |
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datsun180b | hub_cap: finally changed that commit title for you btw | 15:26 |
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dmakogon_home | what's up ? | 16:32 |
SnowDust | hello dmakogon | 16:35 |
SnowDust | free ? | 16:35 |
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dmakogon_home | maybe yes | 16:45 |
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dmakogon_home | SnowDust: come back and fight ! | 17:06 |
SnowDust | hello demakogon_home | 17:06 |
SnowDust | hello yogesh | 17:06 |
dmakogon_home | SnowDust: nick misspell | 17:07 |
dmakogon_home | SnowDust: just copy it)) | 17:07 |
SnowDust | dmakogon_home i see | 17:07 |
SnowDust | pep8 aah !!! | 17:07 |
dmakogon_home | hub_cap: here ? | 17:07 |
dmakogon_home | lol | 17:07 |
dmakogon_home | yup | 17:07 |
SnowDust | yogeshmehra: u thr ? | 17:08 |
dmakogon_home | so, for development process i'm wondering to use git + ssh | 17:08 |
dmakogon_home | but (!!!) only for development reasons, not in production (dep/rpm) | 17:09 |
dmakogon_home | adv's of git+ssh in development: avoiding pushing tar or external git repo by dint of cloud-init | 17:10 |
SnowDust | but still we have a single repo ... | 17:10 |
dmakogon_home | yes | 17:10 |
SnowDust | we need to split . .the agent and the server .. | 17:10 |
dmakogon_home | i know that *cores like the idea to sepparate it | 17:10 |
yogeshmehra | hey guys | 17:10 |
SnowDust | yeah .. idea of core is best | 17:10 |
dmakogon_home | yogeshmehra: hi ! | 17:10 |
SnowDust | but .. int-tests will take the wrath ! | 17:11 |
yogeshmehra | dmakogon_home: hello...need to get the idea | 17:11 |
dmakogon_home | but, as you know, this is not so easy to split it | 17:11 |
dmakogon_home | guestagent is like venom for spider-man | 17:11 |
dmakogon_home | yogeshmehra: what the idea ? | 17:12 |
yogeshmehra | basic question: why split... | 17:12 |
SnowDust | dmakogon_home .. could not take ur analogy .. it sucks ;) | 17:12 |
dmakogon_home | SnowDust: oh, sir, ok)) | 17:12 |
SnowDust | but .. understand .. its a tie for a salesman ! | 17:12 |
dmakogon_home | SnowDust: how about duel ?))) | 17:13 |
yogeshmehra | lol | 17:13 |
yogeshmehra | its a bang for the big-bang... :-) | 17:13 |
dmakogon_home | yogeshmehra: i dont understood you, what the idea you need to get ? | 17:14 |
yogeshmehra | why do we need to separate... | 17:14 |
yogeshmehra | the idea of separation? | 17:14 |
dmakogon_home | delivery process | 17:14 |
yogeshmehra | is there a bp/gist where i can get some background | 17:14 |
SnowDust | rt nw its just concept .. | 17:15 |
dmakogon_home | nobody wants to pull whole trove repo because of GA | 17:15 |
SnowDust | dmakogon is proposing .. how to get trove .. in heat templates | 17:15 |
dmakogon_home | i'll make a BP | 17:15 |
dmakogon_home | i'm still walking around with this idea | 17:15 |
SnowDust | hmm .. | 17:16 |
yogeshmehra | yeah, plz prepare a bp (ur style is good).. | 17:16 |
SnowDust | i meant .. how to have the agent code while the box is made .. | 17:16 |
yogeshmehra | will be great help for mere mortals.. :-) | 17:16 |
dmakogon_home | we, hub_cap and i, like the idea of git+ssh for development process | 17:17 |
SnowDust | rt now its a lot of extra things we pull using the single git repo | 17:17 |
dmakogon_home | yes, definitely | 17:17 |
SnowDust | thats where .. is dmakogon's proposal for a split | 17:18 |
dmakogon_home | any other thought of guestagent delivery will me acceptable | 17:19 |
yogeshmehra | yeah and the guestagent gets cloned than rsync from host...` | 17:19 |
dmakogon_home | i like OpenShift style of code delivery(please google in don't know what is it) | 17:19 |
yogeshmehra | ok | 17:20 |
dmakogon_home | OpenShift is pure SaaS | 17:20 |
dmakogon_home | they use git+ssh to push users application code to prepared VM | 17:21 |
yogeshmehra | push??? | 17:21 |
dmakogon_home | but, users code is user responsibility | 17:21 |
yogeshmehra | is the idea not to have the GA pull what it needs | 17:21 |
dmakogon_home | no | 17:22 |
dmakogon_home | the idea to push custom GA code(for now whole trove repo) to instance with it already spinned | 17:22 |
SnowDust | push into vm .. he means .. | 17:23 |
dmakogon_home | yes | 17:23 |
dmakogon_home | sorry for being not to clear | 17:23 |
yogeshmehra | i would love ur bp on this | 17:23 |
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dmakogon_home | https://www.openshift.com/products/architecture | 17:27 |
datsun180b | you mean something like a selfupdate command? | 17:27 |
dmakogon_home | okay, yogesh, i'd do that by monday. | 17:27 |
dmakogon_home | datsun180b: what do you mean under "selfupdate" ? | 17:28 |
yogeshmehra | thanks much... | 17:28 |
datsun180b | as in, tell a guest agent to shut down, update itself and restart | 17:28 |
datsun180b | it's that 'update itself' that gets fun | 17:28 |
dmakogon_home | datsun180b: there is no selfupdate on already spinned VM | 17:29 |
datsun180b | then that would be one application of a separate ga repo | 17:29 |
dmakogon_home | the main approach to push fresh code into new VM | 17:29 |
SnowDust | self update is just possible when its a binary .. over *.deb / *.rpm | 17:29 |
datsun180b | i follow you here | 17:29 |
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dmakogon_home | here small workflow of it | 17:30 |
dmakogon_home | 1. nova.server.create(...) | 17:31 |
dmakogon_home | 2. Git push current trove repo | 17:31 |
dmakogon_home | again, we using it only for development | 17:31 |
dmakogon_home | 3.Launching GA | 17:33 |
datsun180b | oh you're trying to avoid needing to spin a new instance to make small changes to the guest agent | 17:33 |
dmakogon_home | https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/taskmanager/models.py#L176-L179 | 17:33 |
dmakogon_home | we could test new guestagent code only at new compute server | 17:34 |
datsun180b | i get you, i've done it before but involved rsyncing the new binaries to the right place on the hosts's file system | 17:35 |
dmakogon_home | datsum180b: do we understood each other ? | 17:35 |
dmakogon_home | yes | 17:35 |
datsun180b | if i understand you then you don't like having to make a new instance to test changes you just made to the GA code | 17:35 |
dmakogon_home | no | 17:36 |
dmakogon_home | ))) | 17:36 |
dmakogon_home | vise versa | 17:36 |
dmakogon_home | new code = new instance | 17:36 |
dmakogon_home | just as you said rsync | 17:37 |
datsun180b | you want to make changes to the code on the instance and have those changes reflected outside the instance? | 17:37 |
dmakogon_home | but more intellectual by using git | 17:37 |
dmakogon_home | no =(( | 17:37 |
dmakogon_home | i'm making changes on server-side | 17:37 |
dmakogon_home | than i use git+ssh to push new code to whole new instance | 17:38 |
datsun180b | so i had you the first time | 17:38 |
dmakogon_home | that provising now | 17:38 |
dmakogon_home | i'm very glad that we finally understood each other)))) | 17:38 |
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dmakogon_home | datsun180b: so what are you thought of it ? | 17:39 |
dmakogon_home | any complains ? | 17:39 |
datsun180b | maybe i'm not certain that i understand you yet | 17:39 |
yogeshmehra | dmakogon_home: no complaints but i am pushing myself hard to understand the gain.. | 17:39 |
dmakogon_home | i could show you where it would happen in code | 17:40 |
datsun180b | so far my only complaint is categorically classifying git+ssh as "more intellectual" than rsync | 17:40 |
hub_cap | hello crusty crew | 17:40 |
datsun180b | but that's neither here nor there | 17:40 |
dmakogon_home | git allows us to do branching | 17:40 |
dmakogon_home | but, yes you are right | 17:40 |
datsun180b | let's not get caught up in the how before we figure out the why | 17:40 |
dmakogon_home | push almost the same as rsync | 17:41 |
hub_cap | i have not looked up to see what yer talking about but ++ datsun180b | 17:41 |
datsun180b | hub_cap: gist is something along the lines of syncing new GA code to a living instance if i'm following this right | 17:41 |
dmakogon_home | hub_cap: git+ssh for guestagent code for development reasons | 17:41 |
yogeshmehra | dmakogon_home: can u mention the 'gain' in the bp/gist | 17:42 |
dmakogon_home | yogeshmehra: i would try | 17:43 |
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hub_cap | yes we talked about git+ssh for development | 17:43 |
hub_cap | i think its a good idea to copy from local machine for the dev environment | 17:43 |
dmakogon_home | hub_cap: few hours ago))) | 17:43 |
datsun180b | wait if i'm reading this right then you want the prepare call to possibly also fetch the guest agent code? | 17:43 |
hub_cap | and git+ssh gets it done | 17:43 |
hub_cap | i think the heat template will need to fetch the code datsun180b | 17:43 |
hub_cap | and turn it on | 17:44 |
datsun180b | makes sense | 17:44 |
dmakogon_home | yes, hub_cap right | 17:44 |
datsun180b | it's not a trove instance until it has our ga on it and the ga is allowed to nest | 17:44 |
hub_cap | the guest gets turnt up | 17:44 |
hub_cap | datsun180b: i prefer turnt up to nest | 17:44 |
datsun180b | turnt up | 17:44 |
datsun180b | that sounds like a malt beverage only available at gas stations | 17:45 |
dmakogon_home | hub_cap: could we do git+ssh not in heat templates ? | 17:45 |
hub_cap | turnt up: drunk, wasted or otherwise impaired | 17:45 |
hub_cap | dmakogon_home: ya the vm init can do that too | 17:46 |
hub_cap | right now the vm init rsync's it | 17:46 |
datsun180b | BOOM! rsync'd | 17:46 |
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dmakogon_home | i'm wondering to do that when server is already active | 17:46 |
hub_cap | imsplitbit: knows what turnt up means | 17:46 |
hub_cap | dmakogon_home first boot | 17:46 |
dmakogon_home | why not after ? | 17:47 |
hub_cap | datsun180b: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu-rmxjIGbo | 17:48 |
datsun180b | those aren't even words | 17:48 |
dmakogon_home | hub_cap: i'd like to have functionality that opens ssh session and pushes code | 17:48 |
hub_cap | dmakogon_home: it just has to happen some time int he beginning, it doesnt matter when | 17:48 |
hub_cap | datsun180b: so turnt up so turnt up so turnt up | 17:48 |
datsun180b | doesn't ssh to the instance go against the whole point of a db-only machine | 17:49 |
dmakogon_home | yes, i'm suggesting to do that after heat/nova would return server with active status | 17:49 |
dmakogon_home | datsun180b: the point is to use it only while development | 17:49 |
dmakogon_home | idatsun180b: at staging/production - deb/rpm | 17:50 |
datsun180b | how about i just quit interrupting you for a while | 17:50 |
dmakogon_home | i know the deffinition of DBaaS and i would never let ssh'ing to the VM in production | 17:51 |
openstackgerrit | Tim Simpson proposed a change to openstack/trove: Fixes trove-api daemon fake mode functionality. https://review.openstack.org/51262 | 17:51 |
dmakogon_home | datsun180b: oh, all ok, please stay | 17:51 |
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dmakogon_home | hub_cap: what would you say for it ? | 17:52 |
dmakogon_home | if development: git+ssh | 17:52 |
dmakogon_home | if production: deb/rpm | 17:52 |
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SnowDust | if we will maintain a *.deb / *.rpm in production | 17:53 |
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SnowDust | why not start building them from today ? | 17:53 |
dmakogon_home | SnowDust: we weill | 17:53 |
dmakogon_home | *will | 17:53 |
SnowDust | and have the same thing from day 1 | 17:53 |
SnowDust | that helps testing the production path .. and less distraction | 17:54 |
SnowDust | and even validates the binaries .. | 17:54 |
dmakogon_home | SnowDust: only one complain - storage for them, CI, | 17:54 |
dmakogon_home | and fast devepopment | 17:54 |
dmakogon_home | we would need to build new deb/rpm for each repo update | 17:55 |
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dmakogon_home | so, this is huge pain in ass, for now | 17:55 |
SnowDust | if we can do int test for each patchset .. | 17:55 |
SnowDust | i think the building *.deb / *.rpm .. be the first step of it .. | 17:55 |
dmakogon_home | int tests doesn't stores nothing | 17:56 |
SnowDust | which will be few secs .. | 17:56 |
dmakogon_home | few secs ?))))) | 17:56 |
dmakogon_home | CI + testing = how about 1 hour or more ? | 17:56 |
SnowDust | rpm build will take time ? | 17:56 |
dmakogon_home | this is not so easy | 17:56 |
dmakogon_home | yes | 17:56 |
SnowDust | no no .. not CI .. that was my point .. the binary creation .. will be 0.X percent of the whole CI process for each patchset | 17:57 |
dmakogon_home | best practicies telling us, that we should build deb/rmp for each of dependecies | 17:57 |
dmakogon_home | i don't like this idea | 17:57 |
SnowDust | so .. thats .. roughly the tox run .. for first time :) | 17:58 |
dmakogon_home | from this point it is not enough to have only packaging system | 17:58 |
SnowDust | when it downloads the deps | 17:58 |
dmakogon_home | we need full cycle | 17:58 |
dmakogon_home | tox downloading *.eggs | 17:59 |
dmakogon_home | but we need deb of each python package which placed it requirements.txt | 17:59 |
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dmakogon_home | SnowDust: we could argue all day/night, but or complains to each other costs nothing)) | 18:00 |
SnowDust | no argument .. dmakogon_home .. but curious to learn | 18:00 |
dmakogon_home | so, i'm agree with you, if not git+ssh, than dep/rpm | 18:00 |
dmakogon_home | with deb/rpm it would be easy | 18:01 |
dmakogon_home | we could place package name in heat template | 18:01 |
dmakogon_home | or in user data perform wget than dpkg -i/yum install | 18:01 |
dmakogon_home | that's the easy way | 18:02 |
dmakogon_home | but as developer i dont want to wait while somewhere my code would be packaged and it would take time | 18:02 |
dmakogon_home | for us time costs a lot | 18:02 |
dmakogon_home | we could even measure our time in customer units | 18:03 |
dmakogon_home | customer = money | 18:03 |
dmakogon_home | it's business, nothing personal))) | 18:03 |
SnowDust | yeah | 18:04 |
dmakogon_home | so, i'm goint to grab some food, i'm starving | 18:04 |
SnowDust | true observation | 18:04 |
SnowDust | ok u eat .. :D .. thats pretty normal ... to be u .. | 18:04 |
hub_cap | hey i just came back | 18:04 |
dmakogon_home | SnowDust: i'm really glad that we are able to understand each other))) | 18:04 |
dmakogon_home | it means a lot | 18:05 |
SnowDust | wc | 18:05 |
hub_cap | wrt tests | 18:05 |
dmakogon_home | hub_cap: tests for what ? | 18:06 |
hub_cap | each test set (not int-tests, but the ones ill be starting in tempest) will be run in parallel | 18:06 |
hub_cap | i saw yall talking about it above | 18:06 |
hub_cap | i just wanted to lvl set | 18:06 |
dmakogon_home | hub_cap: could you share your progress with tempest, i know few guys(QA), they could help you | 18:07 |
hub_cap | 0 progress right now | 18:08 |
hub_cap | but its the highest priority for me | 18:08 |
hub_cap | if i need help i will ask you to ask them dmakogon_home | 18:08 |
hub_cap | SlickNik: also wants to help | 18:08 |
hub_cap | ill try to break up the tasks, but likely ill build the framework | 18:08 |
hub_cap | and let others actually write all the tests | 18:08 |
hub_cap | so thats when your qa guys can help | 18:08 |
dmakogon_home | yes, thanks))) | 18:08 |
dmakogon_home | i'll vote for you))) | 18:09 |
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hub_cap | horray! | 18:09 |
dmakogon_home | so, i will summurize our conversation about delivery: git+ssh with custom code, deb/rpm CI for trove since now | 18:10 |
dmakogon_home | any thought are appriciable | 18:11 |
hub_cap | ++ dmakogon_home, plz blueprint so we can see | 18:13 |
dmakogon_home | okey, as i said, i'll do that by Monday | 18:14 |
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SnowDust | +++ dmakogon_home | 18:21 |
hub_cap | lunchtime cu in a while | 18:22 |
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robertmyers | vipul: SlickNik: if you have time please look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50971 | 18:43 |
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SlickNik | will take a look today, robertmyers, Thanks! | 18:44 |
openstackgerrit | Ed Cranford proposed a change to openstack/trove: Quote and escape pagination markers https://review.openstack.org/51269 | 18:46 |
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datsun180b | that should help | 18:47 |
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dmakogon_home | guess who's back ? | 19:23 |
hub_cap | ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ koala bear ? | 19:24 |
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hub_cap | lifeless: around? | 20:01 |
amcrn | hub_cap: fyi, your new client has one small backwards incompatible change, but it's not a big deal | 20:02 |
amcrn | the previous client used to be able to flavor-list w/o trove in the service-catalog, because it would rely on the compute service-type | 20:02 |
amcrn | but the new client wires the service-type as 'database' for every call, even do_flavor_list | 20:02 |
hub_cap | like it only called compute? | 20:02 |
lifeless | hub_cap: o/ | 20:03 |
hub_cap | and bypassed troves flavor-list call? | 20:03 |
hub_cap | lifeless: im a moron, disregard | 20:03 |
amcrn | the new client requires trove be in the service-catalog for every call, even calls that don't need to talk to trove at all (e.g. flavor-list) | 20:03 |
hub_cap | i was just gonna ask u about the image elements to download fedora | 20:03 |
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lifeless | hub_cap: \o/ | 20:03 |
hub_cap | but thats just in dib..... | 20:03 |
amcrn | old client didn't | 20:03 |
hub_cap | flavor-list is a trove call tho amcrn | 20:03 |
amcrn | the old one went straight to nova when trove was absent :) | 20:04 |
hub_cap | oooh so it, if failing trove, went right to nova? | 20:04 |
amcrn | correct | 20:04 |
amcrn | again, the new behavior is more "correct", but just an fyi | 20:04 |
amcrn | it caught me while i was trying to do a flavor-list on a new devstack install (w/o trove) | 20:05 |
hub_cap | amcrn: duly noted.. that old behavior sounds liek a kludge lol | 20:05 |
amcrn | word | 20:05 |
hub_cap | its possible somoen will file a bug hah | 20:05 |
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dmakogon_home | again here | 20:26 |
dmakogon_home | is there anything that we could discuss ? | 20:27 |
kevinconway | dmakogon_home: we can talk about the weather | 20:29 |
dmakogon_home | oh, the weather is good | 20:29 |
dmakogon_home | i've took 42 km ride on bicycle | 20:30 |
hub_cap | today? | 20:30 |
kevinconway | his whole life | 20:30 |
hub_cap | LOL | 20:30 |
dmakogon_home | nope, only today | 20:31 |
dmakogon_home | odometer shows 1047km from the day it was installed | 20:32 |
dmakogon_home | i've installed it in june | 20:33 |
dmakogon_home | hub_cap: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45723/ | 20:34 |
kevinconway | i used to walk 25k and run1.5k every day… now i am getting fat from sitting down | 20:34 |
dmakogon_home | hub_cap: probably this one too https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50620/ | 20:34 |
dmakogon_home | kevinconway: try to do workouts | 20:35 |
dmakogon_home | gym | 20:35 |
dmakogon_home | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50944/ | 20:35 |
dmakogon_home | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50686/ | 20:36 |
kevinconway | i do, but there is not enough time to do more | 20:36 |
dmakogon_home | last one important | 20:36 |
dmakogon_home | 9-12h per week in guy would be enough | 20:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Andrey Shestakov proposed a change to openstack/python-troveclient: Support service types https://review.openstack.org/47936 | 21:10 |
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ashestakov | hub_cap: vipul SlickNik https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47936 | 21:49 |
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