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openstackgerrit | Joe Cruz proposed a change to openstack/trove: host response attribute should prefer 'host' instead of 'hostId' https://review.openstack.org/55684 | 17:21 |
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esmute | robertmyers: What is the status on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51234/? | 18:42 |
esmute | our horizon plugin is failing due to not having the latest trove client | 18:42 |
robertmyers | esmute: It is ready to merge.. the problem is with the global requirements file | 18:43 |
robertmyers | seems to be a chicken and egg issue, they can't update horizon without global requirements change and global requirements cant update since horizon fails | 18:44 |
robertmyers | sooo not sure what to do | 18:44 |
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esmute | robertmyers: global-requirement is failing because update to it breaks horizon backward compatibility dependency | 18:49 |
esmute | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52137/ | 18:49 |
esmute | David Lyle suggested to disable tempest temporary. Do you know how to do that? | 18:49 |
robertmyers | esmute: no, I'm not a core member of any team | 18:50 |
robertmyers | esmute: seems the global requirements team will need to just accept the change | 18:51 |
robertmyers | either by disabling the gate or just +2'in it | 18:52 |
esmute | Let me bring this over to openstack-dev and see who can help | 18:52 |
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dmakogon | cp16net, ping | 20:41 |
cp16net | dmakogon: pong | 20:41 |
dmakogon | cp16net, i'm about conf. groups | 20:41 |
cp16net | so am i | 20:41 |
dmakogon | cp16net, i really don't want to make GA dumb | 20:41 |
cp16net | it should be | 20:42 |
cp16net | talking about the overrides? | 20:42 |
dmakogon | we need to make GA able to change config by not overriding in totally | 20:42 |
cp16net | so its only writing a file | 20:42 |
dmakogon | have you read AWS Parameters Group Dev. Guide ? | 20:43 |
cp16net | next to the default template configuration | 20:43 |
cp16net | nope | 20:43 |
dmakogon | cp16net, and it's working only with mysql | 20:43 |
dmakogon | please, if you mind read it | 20:43 |
cp16net | yup | 20:43 |
cp16net | why? | 20:43 |
cp16net | what are you trying to point out | 20:43 |
dmakogon | cp16net, because their concept is ideal and works for each db | 20:44 |
dmakogon | cp16net, writing mysql-specific hardcode is not so good idea at all | 20:45 |
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dmakogon | why not just make a service which would take parameters in dict form and then validate them and then push them(not all config) on GA side, then GA would update config | 20:46 |
dmakogon | in git terms: merging | 20:47 |
dmakogon | your solution would bring inconsisten configuration | 20:47 |
dmakogon | do not relay on current trove code, make this mehanism flexible | 20:48 |
dmakogon | and not mysql-specific | 20:48 |
cp16net | so the guest takes a dict now and applies them | 20:51 |
cp16net | how is that any different | 20:51 |
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dmakogon | cp16net, i saw next, dict is written to overrides.cnf | 20:57 |
dmakogon | cp16net, only mysql can work with such concept | 20:57 |
dmakogon | cp16net, with 2 configs | 20:57 |
dmakogon | cp16net, i do know that not cassandra, mongo, postgres, hbase, hive, avro, oracledb, memcached cannot be started with 2 confs | 20:58 |
cp16net | so you are telling me that no other applications can take in overrides from the original configuraiton? | 20:59 |
cp16net | i dont believe that | 20:59 |
dmakogon | yes | 20:59 |
dmakogon | cp16net, you can google | 20:59 |
dmakogon | cp16net, i do a bit research on that question | 20:59 |
cp16net | if that is the case then other dbs can have different strategies for deploying configuraitons | 21:00 |
cp16net | sounds like that will be something that comes out of this | 21:00 |
cp16net | right now we cant predict the future | 21:00 |
cp16net | until it arrives. | 21:00 |
dmakogon | and we cannot work with everything like with mysql | 21:01 |
dmakogon | current trove conf parameters concept is raw (incomplete) | 21:02 |
dmakogon | why not just borrow the idea of parameters group from stable production solution ? | 21:04 |
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dmakogon | Amazon RDBS is the best candidate | 21:04 |
cp16net | rather its pretty much the only candidate.. | 21:05 |
dmakogon | if you read guestagent summit etherpad, there was mantion murano agent - and i could tell you that their agent is like a god on VM | 21:05 |
cp16net | i dont think that we should try to copy what they have done | 21:06 |
dmakogon | cp16net, not at all, there is qumu logic, i suppose | 21:06 |
dmakogon | cp16net, no i didn't say | 21:06 |
datsun180b | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Icehouse/Etherpads#Trove fyi | 21:06 |
datsun180b | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TroveGuestAgents more specifically | 21:06 |
dmakogon | datsun180b, i read that | 21:07 |
dmakogon | several times | 21:07 |
datsun180b | and so should everyone else | 21:07 |
dmakogon | so, my idea to follow Amazon and make GA a bit smarter and do not bring another inconsistent state into trove | 21:08 |
datsun180b | now that's just inflammatory | 21:08 |
dmakogon | datsun180b, why do you think so ? | 21:09 |
dmakogon | we have Craig, who did patchset, we have me and you to discuss ? | 21:09 |
datsun180b | yeah i'm not really keen on discussing design in general, and especially not while Air Force One is in the air | 21:10 |
dmakogon | cp16net, i think that you are very close to consistent state of database configuration, then we would do improvements and tunings | 21:11 |
dmakogon | robertmyers, are you here ? | 21:11 |
cp16net | dmakogon: i'm all for making changes once this is in | 21:12 |
dmakogon | does anyone administrates mysql server ? | 21:13 |
dmakogon | cp16net, i would like to see bugless workflow with all kind of databases (i understand that it depends on manager implementation) | 21:14 |
dmakogon | cp16net, but it should be | 21:14 |
dmakogon | cp16net, merging conf at instance with outcome parameters is the only consistent way, there is no alternative | 21:15 |
dmakogon | * easier alternative | 21:15 |
datsun180b | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/panacea | 21:16 |
dmakogon | datsun180b, yeah =) | 21:17 |
cp16net | i've worked to make this a pluggable as possible right now | 21:19 |
cp16net | for other dbs | 21:19 |
cp16net | without having the support for the other dbs yet | 21:19 |
cp16net | this is really close to having the ability of dealing with different db confs | 21:20 |
dmakogon | cp16net, yes, this is really close, but not "almost complete" | 21:21 |
cp16net | further more... i think one of the features we are trying to address here is the abbilty to dynamically set the variables | 21:21 |
cp16net | other dbs might not even support such an ide | 21:21 |
dmakogon | cp16net, seems like another dependent on current review | 21:21 |
cp16net | i'd like to hear what the other core guys think | 21:23 |
cp16net | i guess we will hear next week | 21:23 |
dmakogon | cp16net, yeah, i rally hope | 21:24 |
dmakogon | *really | 21:24 |
cp16net | i think this is a discussion that could really be on the ML | 21:24 |
dmakogon | yes, this is what i was going to do | 21:24 |
cp16net | so that its easier to go back and hear each side | 21:24 |
dmakogon | do not forget, we have logging)) | 21:25 |
cp16net | i think there are gems to be discussed on each side | 21:25 |
cp16net | sure.. but its harder for some one to read this... there | 21:25 |
openstackgerrit | Craig Vyvial proposed a change to openstack/trove: adding configuration group support https://review.openstack.org/53168 | 21:26 |
dmakogon | ok, i suppose i'm done for now, going to sleep | 21:26 |
dmakogon | bye 2 all | 21:30 |
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