Friday, 2013-11-08

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openstackgerritJoe Cruz proposed a change to openstack/trove: host response attribute should prefer 'host' instead of 'hostId'  https://review.openstack.org/5568417:21
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esmuterobertmyers: What is the status on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51234/?18:42
esmuteour horizon plugin is failing due to not having the latest trove client18:42
robertmyersesmute: It is ready to merge.. the problem is with the global requirements file18:43
robertmyersseems to be a chicken and egg issue, they can't update horizon without global requirements change and global requirements cant update since horizon fails18:44
robertmyerssooo not sure what to do18:44
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esmuterobertmyers: global-requirement is failing because update to it breaks horizon backward compatibility dependency18:49
esmutehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/52137/18:49
esmuteDavid Lyle suggested to disable tempest temporary. Do you know how to do that?18:49
robertmyersesmute: no, I'm not a core member of any team18:50
robertmyersesmute: seems the global requirements team will need to just accept the change18:51
robertmyerseither by disabling the gate or just +2'in it18:52
esmuteLet me bring this over to openstack-dev and see who can help18:52
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dmakogoncp16net, ping20:41
cp16netdmakogon: pong20:41
dmakogoncp16net, i'm about conf. groups20:41
cp16netso am i20:41
dmakogoncp16net, i really don't want to make GA dumb20:41
cp16netit should be20:42
cp16nettalking about the overrides?20:42
dmakogonwe need to make GA able to change config by not overriding in totally20:42
cp16netso its only writing a file20:42
dmakogonhave you read AWS Parameters Group Dev. Guide ?20:43
cp16netnext to the default template configuration20:43
cp16netnope20:43
dmakogoncp16net, and it's working only with mysql20:43
dmakogonplease, if you mind read it20:43
cp16netyup20:43
cp16netwhy?20:43
cp16netwhat are you trying to point out20:43
dmakogoncp16net, because their concept is ideal and works for each db20:44
dmakogoncp16net, writing mysql-specific hardcode is not so good idea at all20:45
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dmakogonwhy not just make a service which would take parameters in dict form and then validate them and then push them(not all config) on GA side, then GA would update config20:46
dmakogonin git terms: merging20:47
dmakogonyour solution would bring inconsisten configuration20:47
dmakogondo not relay on current trove code, make this mehanism flexible20:48
dmakogonand not mysql-specific20:48
cp16netso the guest takes a dict now and applies them20:51
cp16nethow is that any different20:51
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dmakogoncp16net, i saw next, dict is written to overrides.cnf20:57
dmakogoncp16net, only mysql can work with such concept20:57
dmakogoncp16net, with 2 configs20:57
dmakogoncp16net, i do know that not cassandra, mongo, postgres, hbase, hive, avro, oracledb, memcached cannot be started with 2 confs20:58
cp16netso you are telling me that no other applications can take in overrides from the original configuraiton?20:59
cp16neti dont believe that20:59
dmakogonyes20:59
dmakogoncp16net, you can google20:59
dmakogoncp16net, i do a bit research on that question20:59
cp16netif that is the case then other dbs can have different strategies for deploying configuraitons21:00
cp16netsounds like that will be something that comes out of this21:00
cp16netright now we cant predict the future21:00
cp16netuntil it arrives.21:00
dmakogonand we cannot work with everything like with mysql21:01
dmakogoncurrent trove conf parameters concept is raw (incomplete)21:02
dmakogonwhy not just borrow the idea of parameters group from stable production solution ?21:04
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dmakogonAmazon RDBS is the best candidate21:04
cp16netrather its pretty much the only candidate..21:05
dmakogonif you read guestagent summit etherpad, there was mantion murano agent - and i could tell you that their agent is like a god on VM21:05
cp16neti dont think that we should try to copy what they have done21:06
dmakogoncp16net, not at all, there is qumu logic, i suppose21:06
dmakogoncp16net, no i didn't say21:06
datsun180bhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Icehouse/Etherpads#Trove fyi21:06
datsun180bhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TroveGuestAgents more specifically21:06
dmakogondatsun180b, i read that21:07
dmakogonseveral times21:07
datsun180band so should everyone else21:07
dmakogonso, my idea to follow Amazon and make GA a bit smarter and do not bring another inconsistent state into trove21:08
datsun180bnow that's just inflammatory21:08
dmakogondatsun180b, why do you think so ?21:09
dmakogonwe have Craig, who did patchset, we have me and you to discuss ?21:09
datsun180byeah i'm not really keen on discussing design in general, and especially not while Air Force One is in the air21:10
dmakogoncp16net, i think that you are very close to consistent state of database configuration, then we would do improvements and tunings21:11
dmakogonrobertmyers, are you here ?21:11
cp16netdmakogon: i'm all for making changes once this is in21:12
dmakogondoes anyone administrates mysql server ?21:13
dmakogoncp16net, i would like to see bugless workflow with all kind of databases (i understand that it depends on manager implementation)21:14
dmakogoncp16net, but it should be21:14
dmakogoncp16net, merging conf at instance with outcome parameters is the only consistent way, there is no alternative21:15
dmakogon* easier alternative21:15
datsun180bhttp://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/panacea21:16
dmakogondatsun180b, yeah =)21:17
cp16neti've worked to make this a pluggable as possible right now21:19
cp16netfor other dbs21:19
cp16netwithout having the support for the other dbs yet21:19
cp16netthis is really close to having the ability of dealing with different db confs21:20
dmakogoncp16net, yes, this is really close, but not "almost complete"21:21
cp16netfurther more... i think one of the features we are trying to address here is the abbilty to dynamically set the variables21:21
cp16netother dbs might not even support such an ide21:21
dmakogoncp16net, seems like another dependent on current review21:21
cp16neti'd like to hear what the other core guys think21:23
cp16neti guess we will hear next week21:23
dmakogoncp16net, yeah, i rally hope21:24
dmakogon*really21:24
cp16neti think this is a discussion that could really be on the ML21:24
dmakogonyes, this is what i was going to do21:24
cp16netso that its easier to go back and hear each side21:24
dmakogondo not forget, we have logging))21:25
cp16neti think there are gems to be discussed on each side21:25
cp16netsure.. but its harder for some one to read this... there21:25
openstackgerritCraig Vyvial proposed a change to openstack/trove: adding configuration group support  https://review.openstack.org/5316821:26
dmakogonok, i suppose i'm done for now, going to sleep21:26
dmakogonbye 2 all21:30
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