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openstackgerritCraig Vyvial proposed a change to openstack/trove-integration: datastore manager moved to datastore version  https://review.openstack.org/6328803:20
openstackgerritCraig Vyvial proposed a change to openstack/trove: move datastore manager to the datastore version  https://review.openstack.org/6328903:21
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openstackgerritAuston McReynolds proposed a change to openstack/python-troveclient: Correct database-create Name Help Text  https://review.openstack.org/6329403:38
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amcrncp16net: nice (on the datastore patch-sets). i'll review in a bit, about to drive home.04:14
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openstackgerritSushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Replaces location to be backed up during prepare  https://review.openstack.org/6239907:59
openstackgerritSushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Replaces value of MYSQL_BASE_DIR  https://review.openstack.org/6273107:59
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openstackgerritSushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Makes CONF.mount_point editable for deployment  https://review.openstack.org/6273111:21
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openstackgerritSushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Makes CONF.mount_point editable for deployment  https://review.openstack.org/6273111:41
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Initial support for single instance Cassandra Database  https://review.openstack.org/5188412:09
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SushilKM__hello robertmyers14:22
robertmyershello14:22
SushilKM__how r u14:22
robertmyersgood, just getting my morning coffee14:23
SushilKM__oh coool ... did i ping u too early14:23
robertmyersno, its fine, whats up?14:23
SushilKM__wanted a discussion on a short patch14:24
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SushilKM__on this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62399/14:24
SushilKM__discussed with hub_cap and he agreed with the change .....14:26
robertmyersThe restore is still using CONF.mount_pint?14:27
SushilKM__aah its not that backup14:28
SushilKM__what happens is when we run prepare command, the data initially is in /var/lib/mysql which is on / mount-point14:28
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robertmyersbackup does not care or need the mount point or data dir14:29
robertmyersmysql handles that14:29
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SushilKM__sir its not db backup14:30
robertmyersit *knows* where its data is14:30
SushilKM__wat we want is once prepare finishes its task this data should be on a separate disk /dev/vdb which eventually gets mounted on CONF.mount_point14:30
robertmyersrestore does need the data dir tho14:30
SushilKM__ok jst a sec14:30
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SushilKM__https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/guestagent/datastore/mysql/manager.py#L12114:31
SushilKM__this is the line which takes the backup of current data to a temporary mount_point14:31
SushilKM__https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/guestagent/volume.py#L38 defines this method14:32
SushilKM__which takes one argument that is the source which it needs to copy to /dev/vdb mounted on temporary mount_point14:33
SushilKM__did u see that14:33
robertmyersI see, that, I'm not following the purpose of this, all it seems you have done is make it not use CONF.mount_point at all14:35
SushilKM__yes14:35
SushilKM__i wud tell u the purpose14:35
SushilKM__suppose if conf.mount_point has some other value then /var/lib/mysql14:35
SushilKM__then which path does gets backed up14:36
robertmyersBut how would mysql know to look at your other path you set?14:37
SushilKM__yeah thats a different altogether and i was working on that tooo14:38
SushilKM__let me link u thr14:38
robertmyersI don't see the point to mount anything other than the default14:38
SushilKM__https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62731/14:38
robertmyersexcept for other datastores14:38
SushilKM__true14:39
SushilKM__since this path is specific to mysql it should be know to mysql only14:39
SushilKM__see this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62731/4/trove/guestagent/datastore/mysql/manager.py14:39
robertmyersSoo, this is basically adding a bunch of code to make the mount point configurable14:40
SushilKM__here i have managed all the problems14:40
robertmyerswhich does not add any value14:40
robertmyersand can only introduce new bugs14:40
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SushilKM__sorry, but how do new bugs come in14:40
robertmyerswe should just use the defaults everywhere14:40
SushilKM__but then we should have never had that parameter in cfg14:41
robertmyersthere is no need to have a config setting for mount point14:41
SushilKM__the CONF.mount_point14:41
robertmyersit should just do the default fo rthe datastore14:41
robertmyersother wise we add custom code like this, every line of cod eextra is a potential bug14:42
robertmyerssimplify it and then no bugs14:42
robertmyersyou get no choice, you have to use the defaults14:42
robertmyers:)14:42
SushilKM__i was working on the thought, that since its in cfg it shud be configurable14:42
SushilKM__which was not14:42
SushilKM__so, i worked on that14:43
robertmyerswell, I think we have enough config settings too, some could be removed :)14:43
SushilKM__but since u r saying that we shud not use mount_point as a configurable entity, this is a different bug then14:43
robertmyersI get that you are trying to fix it, but it is a very small use case14:44
robertmyersand no value to offer different mount points other than the default14:44
robertmyersI'm not sure why anyone would do it?14:44
denis_makogonrobertmyers, +1 to each point of view14:45
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SushilKM__so, the point I am derriving is that mount_point should be out of cfg14:45
robertmyersI think so14:45
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SushilKM__so denis_makogon, do u agree on this ...14:46
robertmyersand be defined on the datastore14:46
robertmyerspeople can write there own datastore impl too14:46
robertmyersor they can use simlinks to the default path14:47
denis_makogoni'm, agreed about mount point should be defined per datastore14:47
SushilKM__and removed from cfg14:47
denis_makogonbut we still need mount_point in conf files14:48
denis_makogonalso what we need is a dependency between datadir and moint point14:48
SushilKM__An entry in cfg should be configurable14:48
denis_makogonSushilKM__, mount is configurable14:48
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SushilKM__try changing the value CONF.mount_point and share the results14:49
denis_makogonSushilKM__, this is my word that i said to you14:49
robertmyersdenis_makogon: why do we need it in the config?14:49
robertmyersguest config?14:50
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denis_makogonrobertmyers, yes14:50
denis_makogonand only there14:50
SushilKM__i have tried and provided my findings in  my patchset reasoining14:50
robertmyerswhere all does the guest use it that it couldn't be derived from the datastore config?14:51
robertmyersmy.cnf for example?14:51
SushilKM__i believe an entry in cfg should be configurable, or if we want it to always have one value, we make it varibale with default value14:51
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denis_makogonrobertmyers, at prepare call datadir could be retrieved from config_contents15:02
robertmyerspossibly, but if you have a different prepare for each datastore it can just as easily be a constant on the manager class15:03
denis_makogonrobertmyers, one day i suggested datadir = {{CONF.mount_point}}15:04
denis_makogonrobertmyers, problem came when admin would change config.template15:04
SushilKM__making the mount_point/datadir configurable is always a potential bug in the current system15:05
robertmyersBut is it needed anywhere else that we can't use a constant?15:05
SushilKM__thr could be paths i guess, either we make it completely configurable or we make it non-configurable15:05
robertmyersdenis_makogon: I'm saying don't let people change it, and it is simple15:05
denis_makogonrobertmyers, restore ?15:06
robertmyersstill simple, if it is constants15:06
SushilKM__restore is also always needed to get at same location15:06
denis_makogonrobertmyers, maybe we would get problems with post configurations (Craigs patchsets)15:06
robertmyersdenis_makogon: restore is in prepare15:06
robertmyersso it should be able to use the same value15:07
denis_makogonrobertmyers, i agreed with constant, but only with strict dependency with mount_point15:07
denis_makogonwe could use even {{mount_point}}/.15:08
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denis_makogonit would be great if we would have only one value configurable and other one dependent on it15:09
robertmyersdenis_makogon: I'm not sure why they need to be in the config file tho?15:09
denis_makogonchange one, second would be changed automatically15:09
denis_makogonrobertmyers, we need only mount point in conf file15:09
denis_makogonand only15:09
robertmyersdenis_makogon: for what?15:10
robertmyersif mount_point == datadir == constant15:10
denis_makogonin this case - we don't need it15:11
robertmyersI don't see where it *needs* to be a setting in the config15:11
denis_makogoni think a went wrong way15:11
robertmyersone less thing to worry about when you set up trove15:11
denis_makogonif everyone agreed with mount_point == datadir - i would be glad15:12
robertmyersyour data is stored in the default location for datastore15:12
denis_makogonyes15:12
robertmyerslets get them too then15:12
robertmyerscause it makes it sooo much easier15:12
denis_makogonit this case volume must be mounted at the same location15:12
robertmyersdenis_makogon: yes15:12
denis_makogonrobertmyers, i agree with that15:13
robertmyerswhich is the only sane way to set it up too :)15:13
denis_makogonrobertmyers, SlickNik said about parent directory, etc15:13
denis_makogonwhen mount_point is parent, datadir is child dir15:14
robertmyerslike mount /var/lib?15:14
denis_makogonmaybe yes15:14
denis_makogonbut look weird15:14
denis_makogonso, we are going to retrieve mount point from config_contents, right ?15:15
robertmyersno, it could be a setting on the manager15:15
robertmyerseach manager would need it15:16
denis_makogonrobertmyers, taskmanager would parse it ?15:16
robertmyersno15:16
denis_makogonthen how ?15:16
robertmyerstaskmanager doesn't need the mount point only the guest right?15:16
denis_makogonyes15:17
robertmyersor am I missing something15:17
denis_makogononly guest needs it15:17
robertmyersso, the guest agent has different managers for different datastores each with a default data dir15:17
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robertmyersthe guest only needs to know which manager to run15:18
denis_makogonyes15:19
robertmyerswell, I have to run for a bit, maybe we should start a ML thread to see if people agree?15:19
denis_makogonbut since storage directory could be configured - we need to get it from config.template15:19
denis_makogoni agreed15:20
denis_makogonrobertmyers, would you start it ?15:20
robertmyerssure15:20
denis_makogonrobertmyers, nice15:20
SushilKM__great .....15:21
SushilKM__i would be luking ahead for this ML15:21
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datsun180bit's weird to see an email conversation happening while you're writing a response to it16:11
denis_makogonlife is life16:12
datsun180bnow i'm worried my response may be a tangent16:13
datsun180bwhatever, i pressed the button, now we all get to deal with it16:13
denis_makogon yup16:14
datsun180bshort is i'm okay with conductor handling root-history because that was the plan anyway16:14
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denis_makogondatsun180b, did you joined ML thread ?16:15
datsun180bthere's a first for everything16:15
datsun180bit better have used my gmail address and not my other one16:16
datsun180boh good16:16
denis_makogonwhat happened ?16:16
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datsun180boh i have several aliases and by default i don't prefer the gmail one16:17
datsun180bbut my gmail address is my openstack identity email16:17
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denis_makogondatsun180b, so, do you agreed with this patch ?16:28
denis_makogonhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/59410/516:28
datsun180bhadn't even looked at it16:32
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datsun180broot_initially_enabled what NOPE16:33
datsun180bwe don't want to give cameron the keys to the porsche from the start16:33
greghillI can't find any explicit tests for db migration.  is that not something we have automated tests for or am I just missing it?16:34
datsun180bgreghill: i think the test is the migrations work instead of dying16:35
greghillthat's crazy talk16:35
greghillis that something we might want to improve or would that be wasted effort?16:36
datsun180bi don't know how to type the "i dunno lol" emoticon without copy and paste16:37
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openstackgerritSushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Adds tenant_id to guest_info in heat code  https://review.openstack.org/6345416:44
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openstackgerritSushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Adds tenant_id to guest_info in heat code  https://review.openstack.org/6345416:47
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datsun180bdenis_makogon: hey if https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/extensions/mysql/models.py#L202 is here do we even need the report_root_enabled method?16:51
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greghillin the pre-datastore world, does instances.service_type == service_images.service_name?  In order to migrate properly, looks like I need to link to the image_id, so I wanted to verify that that was a correct assumption17:11
kevinconwayall assumptions are correct by default.17:11
greghillnot helpful! :P17:12
hub_capgreghill: everything kevinconway says is incorrect by default :)17:12
hub_capbut thats correct17:12
greghillthanks17:13
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jgriffithhub_cap: ping18:19
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openstackgerritSteve Leon proposed a change to openstack/trove: Adding number of VCPUs to flavor details  https://review.openstack.org/6274818:24
hub_capjgriffith: on phone, bb in a few18:32
hub_capbut go head18:32
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openstackgerritSteve Leon proposed a change to openstack/trove: Using base32 encoding to generate DNS records  https://review.openstack.org/6318618:35
openstackgerritRobert Myers proposed a change to openstack/trove: Adding Incremental Backups  https://review.openstack.org/5956818:42
openstackgerritRobert Myers proposed a change to openstack/python-troveclient: Adding support for incremental backups  https://review.openstack.org/6347918:43
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jgriffithhub_cap: no rush, when you get a minute, I wanna get smart on trove18:47
jgriffithhub_cap: working on setting it up in devstack and running some jobs18:47
jgriffithhub_cap: need some direction :)18:47
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esmutejgriffith: Take a look at the trove-integration. https://github.com/openstack/trove-integration18:53
jgriffithesmute: excellent, thanks!18:54
jgriffithesmute: I'll start there18:54
esmuteIt is a project with helper scripts that aid you to get a devstack runnign with trove18:54
jgriffithesmute: ok, so the redstack piece is "redward + devstack" basicly?18:57
esmute"trove + devstack" :-)18:57
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esmuteyes.. It has helper scripts that will help you install devstack and trove and integrate them together.18:58
esmuteyou can also use the redstack script to access trove (via the trove-client)18:58
jgriffithesmute: cool... I'll load it up after lunch and see how far I get18:59
jgriffithesmute: thanks for the tips18:59
esmutejgriffith: Follow the readme. It has useful information to get you started. https://github.com/openstack/trove-integration/blob/master/README.md19:00
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hub_caphey guys, its friday19:39
hub_capthats nickname change day19:39
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pub_tapcasual nick friday!19:41
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coffeeoh nice19:52
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coffeesomeone already has this nick...19:52
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lazy_lanei'm excited i am off for the next week19:53
lazy_lanei'm going to get some stuff done around the house19:53
pub_tapwow19:53
pub_tappeace. im off to find food. ill be back in a bit19:54
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openstackgerritGreg Hill proposed a change to openstack/trove: make datastore_version_id required  https://review.openstack.org/6352321:41
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