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| openstackgerrit | SlickNik proposed a change to openstack/trove: Turning off XML fake-mode tests https://review.openstack.org/70000 | 06:45 |
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| hub_cap | howdy all, we are getting a on air hangout set up now | 15:30 |
| hub_cap | we will post the link once its avail | 15:31 |
| hub_cap | u will be bored for the first few min, cuz we are just eating bagles :) | 15:31 |
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| cp16net | yummmmm | 15:42 |
| jimbobhickville | bored watching people eat bagels? never! | 15:42 |
| cp16net | crumbs are everywhere | 15:42 |
| iartarisi | so that's why no one is reviewing my change requests? :) | 15:44 |
| denis_makogon | yes, and you are not the only one | 15:45 |
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| konetzed | We now have a google+ and facebook page | 15:50 |
| konetzed | https://plus.google.com/communities/110741570187531033666?partnerid=gplp0 | 15:50 |
| konetzed | https://www.facebook.com/OpenstackTrove | 15:51 |
| SlickNik | And we're on hangout live! | 15:51 |
| konetzed | There are living streams going on from the trove meetup, hub_cap is broadcasting live now | 15:51 |
| imsplitbit | And we're in the room LIVE! | 15:51 |
| imsplitbit | somewhat | 15:51 |
| imsplitbit | some of us had a 2 hour drive in | 15:52 |
| SlickNik | #link https://plus.google.com/events/ce6eoqfq7fb0vl0qbpsh8lhn8sc?partnerid=gplp0 | 15:52 |
| konetzed | all archive links will be posted to each if you cant watch the live stream | 15:52 |
| konetzed | SlickNik: tnx, ya beat me too it :D | 15:52 |
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| SlickNik | Anytime konetzed! Thanks for setting it up! | 15:53 |
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| denis_makogon | i can't hear any sound at https://plus.google.com/events/ce6eoqfq7fb0vl0qbpsh8lhn8sc?partnerid=gplp0 | 15:58 |
| datsun180b | hub_cap: ^^ | 15:58 |
| konetzed | denis_makogon: lemme ping baz and see if we cant get that fixed | 15:59 |
| denis_makogon | konetzed, thanks | 15:59 |
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| konetzed | denis_makogon: hub_cap is looking at it now, we dont have the best equipment only using laptops today, maybe there is better gear we can use tomorrow | 16:01 |
| konetzed | denis_makogon: i hear sound now, how is it? | 16:01 |
| konetzed | i have trouble verifying since I am in the room | 16:01 |
| denis_makogon | yes | 16:01 |
| denis_makogon | i can hear it now | 16:02 |
| konetzed | ok, first time doing this, so we are learning :D | 16:02 |
| datsun180b | i made a g+ account just for this | 16:02 |
| konetzed | Yea hub_cap and I discussed it last night and thought it would be good to go social and get this to everyone | 16:04 |
| esp | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/DatabaseAsAService/configurationediting | 16:04 |
| konetzed | hub_cap: laptop fell off the wifi :( he doesnt know how to run a laptop | 16:04 |
| datsun180b | thanks, nm-applet! | 16:05 |
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| denis_makogon | hang is down | 16:05 |
| konetzed | denis_makogon: see my last post | 16:05 |
| datsun180b | host machine lost internet | 16:05 |
| konetzed | should be back now | 16:05 |
| denis_makogon | lol | 16:05 |
| datsun180b | because hub_cap can't into networkmanager without gnome | 16:05 |
| konetzed | we are getting an etherpad up also | 16:06 |
| cp16net | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-2014-meetup-configuration-groups | 16:07 |
| SlickNik | Thanks cp16net | 16:07 |
| datsun180b | protip: name yourself in etherpad or risk me renaming you from UNNAMED | 16:09 |
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| datsun180b | click the icon in the top right of the etherpad page | 16:10 |
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| denis_makogon | please turn the laptop ))) | 16:13 |
| cp16net | :) | 16:13 |
| konetzed | denis_makogon: should be updating the stream soon | 16:13 |
| denis_makogon | nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnice | 16:13 |
| konetzed | its about a 2min delay | 16:13 |
| datsun180b | two minutes? hard to peanut gallery from irc then | 16:14 |
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| cp16net | here is an overview of what we are chatting about https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-2014-meetup | 16:20 |
| cp16net | please feel free to add to it | 16:20 |
| konetzed | does the live stream pause for anyone else, the bw here is a lil wonky | 16:26 |
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| denis_makogon | Is it possible to make louder ? | 16:28 |
| konetzed | not really, we just have a laptop mic for today, I am trying to find a better one to use | 16:29 |
| konetzed | sorry | 16:29 |
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| denis_makogon | better to put the laptop on the table ? | 16:30 |
| konetzed | Let me ask hub_cap, its also the laptop we are using to display on the tv | 16:30 |
| konetzed | V1 of doing this, full of bugs :P | 16:31 |
| konetzed | ok we moved the laptop, see if this works better | 16:34 |
| jmontemayor | Now you just need a lazy susan :) | 16:35 |
| jmontemayor | but I can hear better, thanks | 16:35 |
| konetzed | denis_makogon: how is the stream now? | 16:35 |
| denis_makogon | fine | 16:36 |
| denis_makogon | thanks | 16:36 |
| konetzed | jmontemayor: ok thx, hopefully i can find some better mics for tomorrow, not sure if RS helpdesk can help me with that or not | 16:36 |
| datsun180b | don't forget about the delay, right now i can hear morris but i bet it's another minute before denis can | 16:36 |
| datsun180b | technology right | 16:36 |
| jmontemayor | i am sure they can, you could probably borrow those nice wireless mics | 16:36 |
| jmontemayor | let me see who I can find | 16:37 |
| konetzed | we need one that can plug in via a mini jack | 16:37 |
| konetzed | i just figure almost anything would work better then a laptop mic | 16:38 |
| datsun180b | 3.5mm? i think i have a stalk mic at home but i don't know how well it'll work in this room | 16:38 |
| konetzed | datsun180b: if you could bring it tomorrow we can find out | 16:38 |
| datsun180b | i can bring it in tomorrow if it'll help | 16:38 |
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| jmontemayor | konetzed you should be hearing from someone from austin shortly on a mic solution | 16:59 |
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| denis_makogon | sorry, i'm going to read-only | 17:05 |
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| denis_makogon | hey, guys, if you have free time it would be nice to review Capabilities design https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FDhenfF47UYdiqTr5dGHSG_Gk828yFuvew92I9qil5I/edit?usp=sharing | 17:11 |
| konetzed | denis_makogon: ill ping hub_cap about it but I think blueprints are this afternoon | 17:13 |
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| denis_makogon | konetzed, unfortunately i'll out, due to family reasons, so, would be nice if you'll leave some notes about that | 17:14 |
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| denis_makogon | what's up | 17:38 |
| konetzed | ok we are finally done with lunch | 17:38 |
| konetzed | im sure that was interesting to watch :P | 17:39 |
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| denis_makogon | i'm eating too | 17:39 |
| denis_makogon | =) | 17:39 |
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| konetzed | were are currently talking about https://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/session-videos/presentation/barbican-1-0-open-source-key-management-for-openstack | 17:46 |
| denis_makogon | konetzed, i heard that someone said "thanks, Denis" =) | 17:47 |
| denis_makogon | please, ask about symmetric key delivering (KDF based on HMAC, SHA-3) | 17:49 |
| cp16net | denis_makogon: hub_cap thanked you for bbq | 17:50 |
| denis_makogon | nooo, hang stucked | 17:50 |
| denis_makogon | nooooo | 17:51 |
| cp16net | denis_makogon: its broke? | 17:51 |
| denis_makogon | cp16net, stucked | 17:52 |
| konetzed | stream seeme to be pusing a lot for me, is it ok for you guys? | 17:53 |
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| glucas | I've lost the stream... | 17:58 |
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| konetzed | we are stil broadcasting it says but i cannot get the stream anymore, i am getting an error from google | 17:59 |
| glucas | yeah, I'm getting a "Please stand by, technical difficulties." | 18:00 |
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| konetzed | maybe we broke the googles | 18:01 |
| Geetha | its stuck for me too | 18:01 |
| konetzed | I will post info about Barbican in the google+ and fb pages | 18:01 |
| datsun180b | i had a bunch of trouble getting back onto wifi here | 18:01 |
| konetzed | later on today | 18:01 |
| konetzed | openstack-Barbican the guys hang out in | 18:02 |
| datsun180b | "a bag of footguns" | 18:04 |
| datsun180b | wonderful | 18:04 |
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| konetzed | well for everyone who cant get the stream it does look like we are still recording so hopefully it will show up on youtube archived | 18:06 |
| glucas | konetzed: cool, thx | 18:08 |
| datsun180b | that's reaperhulk and jraim on #openstack-barbican | 18:08 |
| Geetha | Thanks konetzed | 18:09 |
| jmontemayor | I guess google is out to lunch | 18:10 |
| datsun180b | i maintain it's wonky wifi | 18:10 |
| imsplitbit | I've had 0 wifi issues | 18:11 |
| imsplitbit | not that that is any indication of the robustness of the wifi here | 18:11 |
| jmontemayor | boo i had the hangout on the big screen | 18:11 |
| datsun180b | <imsplitbit> i use a mac nyah nyah nyah i don't have to configure anything and it all works | 18:11 |
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| imsplitbit | I haven't used a mac in 2 years | 18:11 |
| konetzed | i havent had a wifi issues | 18:11 |
| imsplitbit | theres no mac over here datsun180b | 18:12 |
| imsplitbit | I'm sitting between 2 macs :) | 18:12 |
| datsun180b | well hub_cap and i are both running similar systems, ubuntu and gnome and awesome and nmapplet | 18:12 |
| datsun180b | so our problems seem to be correlated | 18:13 |
| imsplitbit | I'm on ubuntu + gnome | 18:13 |
| imsplitbit | no wifi issues | 18:13 |
| datsun180b | yeah my applets live in a weird spot | 18:13 |
| imsplitbit | again I'm not saying your problems aren't valid | 18:13 |
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| datsun180b | after lunch it took me like ten minutes and two restarts for wifi to pick up again, it just kept spinning and not authing | 18:13 |
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| imsplitbit | I was just throwing out there that I am not having any problems so we could get some anecdotal evidence on whether or not there are wifi issues or if this is pebcak | 18:14 |
| jmontemayor | Maybe there is a 2 hour freeloader limit on hangouts | 18:14 |
| datsun180b | who knows, at least my problems are resolved | 18:14 |
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| denis_makogon | sad, i hope you'll make some notes on each topic | 18:29 |
| konetzed | I am trying to keep the google+ and fb pages updated with some notes | 18:29 |
| denis_makogon | thanks for that =) | 18:32 |
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| datsun180b | resolving our streaming, things may get rocky | 18:44 |
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| denis_makogon | datsun180b, ok, let me know when it gets up | 18:49 |
| datsun180b | going to try again in about ten minutes baz said | 18:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Denis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Cassandra backup/restore https://review.openstack.org/73365 | 19:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Denis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Fix inconsistent usage of mount_point https://review.openstack.org/74354 | 19:01 |
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| konetzed | https://plus.google.com/events/cpd9158q1i2av1hm80j0qmgjsgk | 19:18 |
| konetzed | new live stream | 19:18 |
| hub_cap | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgFVKeQLzV3FdFFfbTg3M2UzSVdyeWN6dEdxS1I5Y1E&usp=sharing | 19:18 |
| glucas | yay, it works | 19:23 |
| jmontemayor | can you face the group windows again | 19:24 |
| jmontemayor | ok i see baz's face | 19:25 |
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| denis_makogon | hub_cap, there are so missing columns, like Couchbase, CouchDB | 19:25 |
| denis_makogon | and some fields are, somehow incorrect, or redundant | 19:26 |
| datsun180b | jmontemayor: how's that view | 19:26 |
| jmontemayor | nice | 19:26 |
| jmontemayor | not sure how long the delay is | 19:27 |
| datsun180b | oh i guess he already moved it back | 19:27 |
| konetzed | everyone get into the new stream | 19:29 |
| konetzed | denis_makogon: I will ping Neha about that | 19:30 |
| konetzed | the Couchbase, CouchDB | 19:30 |
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| jmontemayor | link please | 19:37 |
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| juice | hub_cap -> https://gist.github.com/juicegit/7534842 | 19:38 |
| esp | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-2014-meetup-configuration-groups | 19:39 |
| jmontemayor | close | 19:41 |
| jmontemayor | its mute again | 19:41 |
| datsun180b | koko got vic to bring a fancy high quality mic from the office | 19:43 |
| glucas | no sound at the moment | 19:43 |
| datsun180b | they | 19:43 |
| datsun180b | they're fiddling with it | 19:43 |
| jmontemayor | fiddle moar please | 19:43 |
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| jmontemayor | works | 19:45 |
| jmontemayor | don't' touch | 19:45 |
| jmontemayor | can still hear baz | 19:47 |
| jmontemayor | :D | 19:47 |
| datsun180b | and is that a problem | 19:47 |
| cp16net | you can always hear him even with out a mic... :-P | 19:47 |
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| imsplitbit | people in china can hear baz | 19:48 |
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| konetzed | there how is the sound now? | 19:48 |
| glucas | sounds good | 19:51 |
| konetzed | i have heard from jmontemayor the video isnt great right now, i will try to move it around on the next break. There are lots of cables and stuff plugged in to the laptop now that would just make it hard to do during a session | 19:55 |
| konetzed | i figure getting quality audio is more important then looking at a bunch of ppl sitting there | 19:56 |
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| glucas | +1 | 19:57 |
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| SlickNik | Trove Blueprint template based on juice's gist: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TroveBlueprint | 20:00 |
| SlickNik | ^^ Thanks juice | 20:00 |
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| datsun180b | nice | 20:01 |
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| konetzed | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-2014-meetup | 20:23 |
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| datsun180b | guess it's just me getting kicked off wifi randomly | 20:25 |
| jmontemayor | Why not right after the trove meeting? | 20:25 |
| kevinconway | datsun180b: what's the etherpad for the PROCESS? | 20:25 |
| datsun180b | same as it's been | 20:25 |
| datsun180b | i didn't see a new one | 20:26 |
| konetzed | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-2014-meetup | 20:26 |
| konetzed | that one? | 20:26 |
| datsun180b | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-2014-meetup-configuration-groups | 20:26 |
| datsun180b | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-2014-meetup-process ? | 20:27 |
| datsun180b | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-2014-meetup is the cover sheet to all our etherpads | 20:31 |
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| jmontemayor | there is no adim stuff you have to use the django admin stuff to modify storyboard | 20:34 |
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| abramley | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/DocImpact | 21:24 |
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| denis_makogon_ | hey, hey, hey, guys, please vote https://www.openstack.org/vote-atlanta/Presentation/openstack-dbaas-trove-mysql-replication-overview | 21:32 |
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| konetzed | wish we had a better cam for the stream so you guys following along could read the stuff Ann is presenting | 21:58 |
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| konetzed | Trove meetup is over | 22:07 |
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| denis_makogon_ | hub_cap, https://www.openstack.org/vote-atlanta/Presentation/openstack-dbaas-trove-mysql-replication-overview =) | 22:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Adds support for Datastore Version Specific Template https://review.openstack.org/74843 | 22:51 |
| SushilKM | help needed, can someone re-run https://rdjenkins.dyndns.org/job/Trove-Gate/2588 | 22:58 |
| SushilKM | Thank u | 22:58 |
| denis_makogon_ | https://review.openstack.org/74843 this patch refers to already existed blueprint | 22:59 |
| denis_makogon_ | again, SushilKM, please do better search before filing another blueprint | 22:59 |
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| SushilKM | oh am sorry abt that ... for re-blueprinting | 23:00 |
| SushilKM | can u help me with the link @denis_makogon | 23:00 |
| SushilKM | i think i got it | 23:01 |
| SushilKM | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/config-template-per-package | 23:01 |
| SushilKM | can u assign that to me Denis so that I can update my patchset to point to this your bp | 23:02 |
| denis_makogon_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/config-template-per-package-or-datastore-version | 23:02 |
| SushilKM | Thank u Denis, can u please assign that to me ... | 23:03 |
| SushilKM | cool thanks | 23:03 |
| denis_makogon_ | done | 23:03 |
| SushilKM | so, in bluprint we have something called superseeded | 23:03 |
| SushilKM | instead of duplicate | 23:03 |
| SushilKM | so shall I do that | 23:04 |
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| denis_makogon_ | yes | 23:05 |
| SushilKM | ok cool | 23:05 |
| denis_makogon_ | and you missing whole approach of the blueprint | 23:05 |
| SushilKM | thank u for re-running test too | 23:05 |
| denis_makogon_ | as we discussed long time ago, we need to provide config.template per version, not the heat template | 23:06 |
| SushilKM | but i want to do it for heat template too | 23:06 |
| denis_makogon_ | why ? | 23:06 |
| denis_makogon_ | reason ? | 23:07 |
| SushilKM | as i specified in my blueprint, if you are doing any installation/configuration steps in your heat template then u may need to update ur heat template for different versions | 23:07 |
| denis_makogon_ | what's the difference between heat template for mysql-5.5 and mysql-5.6 | 23:08 |
| denis_makogon_ | ? | 23:08 |
| SushilKM | there is none, since install+configure is done in imaging | 23:08 |
| SushilKM | i m saying if you are doing any installation/configuration and new version has some changes to that method | 23:08 |
| denis_makogon_ | heat template is common for whole datastore | 23:09 |
| denis_makogon_ | config.template should be done per datastore version | 23:09 |
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| SushilKM | the need for different config template arises because we may have new parameters in a newer version | 23:10 |
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| SushilKM | so similarly if ur db installation+configuration is multi-stepped unlike mysql has and there is a change in that method, u may need version-specific template | 23:11 |
| denis_makogon_ | version specific config.template | 23:11 |
| denis_makogon_ | provisioning has nothing common with launching database | 23:12 |
| denis_makogon_ | as i said wrong approach | 23:12 |
| SushilKM | its not a wrong approach | 23:13 |
| denis_makogon_ | please example | 23:13 |
| denis_makogon_ | how will differ mysql-5.5 and mysql-4.7 heat template ? | 23:14 |
| SushilKM | wait a min | 23:14 |
| SushilKM | i m not specific to mysql | 23:16 |
| denis_makogon_ | what's the difference between cassandra 2.0.1 and cassandra 2.0.5 heat template ? | 23:16 |
| SushilKM | with mysql what happens is ur all steps are combined into one which is "database software install" + "database software configuration" + "database creation" | 23:17 |
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| SushilKM | however, if we have a database following these in 3 different steps | 23:17 |
| SushilKM | and u r doing those using heat provisioning, u may need different heat templates to follow up a change in the process | 23:18 |
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| denis_makogon_ | how it will differ ?? | 23:18 |
| SushilKM | ok say for eg. for db creation a script is there | 23:18 |
| SushilKM | create_database -d database_name -h host_name | 23:19 |
| SushilKM | and tomorrow there comes a new version adding something to the list of arguments | 23:19 |
| SushilKM | that would create a difference in the process | 23:20 |
| denis_makogon_ | there would not be any difference in process | 23:20 |
| denis_makogon_ | at all | 23:20 |
| SushilKM | so do u disagree wid the example | 23:21 |
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| denis_makogon_ | please live generic words aside | 23:21 |
| denis_makogon_ | how will differ heat template for version 5.5 and 5.6 ??? | 23:22 |
| denis_makogon_ | certain difference | 23:22 |
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| denis_makogon_ | main approach: template/{datastore}/{version}/config.template | 23:23 |
| SushilKM | do not know y r u stuck too mysql since we now have trove available to support multiple datastores and anyone can use it to write custom code for any other datastores too | 23:23 |
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| denis_makogon_ | i'm talking about mysql, because trove fully supports only it | 23:24 |
| denis_makogon_ | nothing else | 23:24 |
| denis_makogon_ | again, how will differ heat template for version 5.5 and 5.6 ? | 23:24 |
| SushilKM | so do we want limit to how mysql, i disagree | 23:25 |
| SushilKM | how mysql works* | 23:25 |
| denis_makogon_ | mechanis is generic for all datastores, no matter if its mysql or redis | 23:26 |
| denis_makogon_ | _no_ difference | 23:26 |
| SushilKM | how does that go for oracle | 23:26 |
| SushilKM | now dont say me its not yet implemented with trove | 23:27 |
| denis_makogon_ | i'd like to stay with _real_ usecases, and yes, oracle is not in | 23:28 |
| SushilKM | but i m seeing it the more generic way | 23:28 |
| denis_makogon_ | so, i don't like to talk about future possible imaginary problems | 23:28 |
| SushilKM | not a problem | 23:28 |
| denis_makogon_ | SushilKM, again, how will differ heat template for version 5.5 and 5.6 ? | 23:29 |
| denis_makogon_ | could you please answer this question | 23:29 |
| SushilKM | i think i have written it many times its my words are not limited to mysql | 23:29 |
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| denis_makogon_ | please, SushilKM, give more precise information | 23:32 |
| denis_makogon_ | i asked one question, and, unfortunately i didn't recieved answer yet | 23:32 |
| SushilKM | denis_makogon I have given the explaination about what prompts the change for heat templates | 23:33 |
| denis_makogon_ | SushilKM, please repeat | 23:33 |
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| SushilKM | with mysql what happens is ur all steps are combined into one which is "database software install" + "database software configuration" + "database creation" | 23:35 |
| SushilKM | however, if we have a database following these in 3 different steps | 23:35 |
| SushilKM | and u r doing those using heat provisioning, u may need different heat templates to follow up a change in the process | 23:35 |
| SushilKM | for eg. for db creation a script is there | 23:35 |
| SushilKM | create_database -d database_name -h host_name | 23:35 |
| SushilKM | and tomorrow there comes a new version adding something to the list of arguments | 23:35 |
| SushilKM | that would create a difference in the process | 23:35 |
| denis_makogon_ | sorry, but this is not an argument for versioning heat template | 23:37 |
| denis_makogon_ | datastore version is not involved into stack provisioning | 23:38 |
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| ViswaV_ | Hello all… If there is a git/gerrit expert in our channel (still logged in here and not already at the trove meet up party at maggiemae's !)could you please answer my question. My question is about https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritWorkflow#Add_dependency | 23:52 |
| ViswaV_ | What happens when the dependency (the review on which my change is dependent on) gets eventually approved and merged into trunk/master? Is there anything I need to do other than the steps mentioned in that section? | 23:53 |
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| ViswaV | My idea was to specify my dependency, then periodically rebase my change on to any new patch sets submitted for that parent dependency and eventually submit my change as git review -R (avoid rebase of parent dependency and mine to master since I do not own the parent dependency). But once the parent dependency is merged into master…what then? Do I simply do a "git fetch origin master; git checkout my_topic_branch; git rebase -i " and then | 23:56 |
| ViswaV | this time around do git review (without -R) so that if any further rebase is required I would be notified of it and take care of it one final time? | 23:56 |
| ViswaV | I would ideally want to avoid all this dependency mess and wait until the parent dependencies get merged and base my work off of master directly…but some of the things I am dependent upon (owned by others) are in the review queue for such a long time, that I thought it would be better if I explored the workflow involving adding dependencies to in-flight (not merged in yet) reviews.. | 23:59 |
| ViswaV | Thanks for any help/pointers or admonishing not to do this :) | 23:59 |
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