Wednesday, 2014-03-26

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dougshelley66i sent up this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82923/ and while it got a +1 from Jenkins, i see this:00:24
dougshelley66gate-python-troveclient-pypy FAILURE in 2m 28s (non-voting)00:24
dougshelley66is that bad?00:24
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/trove: Fixed unit test to not actually run backup command  https://review.openstack.org/8114200:38
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openstackgerritDan Nguyen proposed a change to openstack/trove: Added route for Admin API to support guest upgrade  https://review.openstack.org/8141001:23
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hub_capdougshelley66: i think they all fail02:29
hub_capso no, we dont conform to pypy yet iirc02:29
hub_capif the others pass, then you did something to bust it :)02:30
hub_capwait im thinking py3 i think02:30
dougshelley66hub_cap well i only changed one character in shell.py02:30
hub_caphahaha02:31
hub_caphttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/69999/02:31
hub_capthats another review02:31
hub_capand its failing pypy02:31
dougshelley66in my entire career as a developer i don't believe i've ever committed one character02:31
hub_capi woudlnt worry abou tit02:31
dougshelley66ok thx02:31
hub_capLOL dougshelley66 you havent had to deal w/ regex updates then heheh02:31
hub_capone character drastically changing a pattern haahhah02:32
dougshelley66right :)02:32
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* hub_cap loves regex :)02:32
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openstackgerritNikhil Manchanda proposed a change to openstack/trove: Remove mockito, and replace with mock  https://review.openstack.org/8288804:33
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove-integration: Addind dblog tests  https://review.openstack.org/7192006:11
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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/trove: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/8272106:15
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sc-rmI have been looking on the wiki and other places on the net with information about Trove, but could not find a place where it describes which DB's it already support, MariaDB/Galera is the most wanted for me :-D11:03
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denis_makogonsc-rm, ping11:04
denis_makogonsc-rm, trove now supports basic mysql-server-5.5, percona-5.511:04
denis_makogonsc-rm, is it enough for you /11:04
denis_makogon?11:04
sc-rmdenis_makogon: nope, unfortunately it’s not good enough11:06
sc-rm;-)11:06
denis_makogonsc-rm, what's your requirements ?11:06
sc-rmthat it does not run mysql, but mariadb11:06
sc-rmfor a start11:07
denis_makogonsc-rm, there's way to install mariadb11:07
denis_makogonsince trove could manage any kinds of mysql-based DB11:07
denis_makogonyou could mention mariadb package instead of the mysql-server11:08
denis_makogonsc-rm, here's the actual example https://github.com/openstack/trove-integration/blob/master/scripts/redstack#L279-L31511:09
sc-rmokay, I’ll have a look, but will Trove with mysql+percona scale replication among nodes as mariadb+galera do?11:14
sc-rmmy biggest concern is scaling in a master/master cluster11:15
denis_makogonsc-rm, i guess, it'll be possible in Juno-311:15
denis_makogonsc-rm, take a look at https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Trove/Blueprints/Trove-v1-MySQL-Replication11:15
denis_makogonsc-rm, i'd like to hear concerns about it11:15
sc-rmwe use master/master replication right now set up by hand, and works like a charm, so it’s our biggest need :-) But it sounds great it’s comming in Juno-311:18
denis_makogonsc-rm, what's your real use cases for the replication ?11:19
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sc-rmdenis_makogon: I’ll be back in 45 min, then you’ll get a usecase ;-)11:21
denis_makogonsc-rm, cool11:22
openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack/trove: Start using oslosphinx theme for docs  https://review.openstack.org/8304911:42
openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack/trove: Start using oslosphinx theme for docs  https://review.openstack.org/8304911:50
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sc-rmdenis_makogon: We have a hell lot of writes in a multiuser state, so to scale performance we need multimaster write11:56
denis_makogonsc-rm, does your deployment located inside one data center ?11:57
sc-rmdenis_makogon: right now everything is inside one data center, but later we need to have everything accessible from different datacenters, but the process of replicating between datacenters can be slower, so the need for fast replication there is not as important11:59
denis_makogonsc-rm, i see12:02
denis_makogonsc-rm, ok, i got it, you could see the actual use cases that should be implemented during the Juno release12:03
sc-rmdenis_makogon: I’m not sure what you mean? is some of what I just described in the Juno release?12:06
denis_makogonsc-rm, https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Trove/Blueprints/Trove-v1-MySQL-Replication#Use_Case_Requirements12:07
denis_makogonsc-rm, this is what should be12:07
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sc-rmdenis_makogon: ahe, point C is what is most interesting for us :-)12:10
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denis_makogonsc-rm, i thinks there's the possibility that stage A and C could be done in parallel12:12
denis_makogonsc-rm, i think it could discussed during design sessions at Atlanta12:12
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denis_makogonyeeeh, http://openstacksummitmay2014atlanta.sched.org/event/88ea50f1c8d83ebe5d8a4d11a2c36e42#.UzLMXNsVYam12:47
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sc-rmdenis_makogon: Sounds cool, I’ll keep an eye out for the changes comming in Trove13:02
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denis_makogonsc-rm, cool =)13:09
denis_makogonsc-rm, btw, where are you from ?13:09
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sc-rmdenis_nakogon: Denmark13:09
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denis_makogonsc-rm, which company ? if it's not the secret ?13:43
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Add point in time recovery  https://review.openstack.org/7722214:54
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hub_capdenis_makogon: http://microting.dk/ i think is the answer to your question :)15:57
hub_capright sc-rm ?15:57
denis_makogonhub_cap, yeah, he told me15:58
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denis_makogonhub_cap, http://openstacksummitmay2014atlanta.sched.org/event/88ea50f1c8d83ebe5d8a4d11a2c36e42#.UzLLxdsVYak15:59
denis_makogon=)15:59
denis_makogonhub_cap, http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/15016:00
hub_capoh cool denis_makogon, i guess that means youre coming to ATL)))16:00
denis_makogonhub_cap, 100%16:00
sc-rmhub_cap: that is true ;-)16:00
hub_capawesome denis_makogon16:00
hub_capsc-rm: see what a little googling can get ya ;)16:00
denis_makogonhub_cap, lol16:00
denis_makogonhub_cap, have you googled yourself ?16:01
sc-rmhub_cap what did you put to google search to figure that was the url?16:01
hub_capsc-rm: your name16:01
hub_capand openstack16:01
hub_capand i saw your email addy16:01
hub_capon a few posts16:01
hub_capsimple :)16:01
hub_capdenis_makogon: lol a long time ago, maybe i shold again haha. i know there is a football player named michael basnight too16:02
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sc-rmhehe16:02
denis_makogonhub_cap, lol, are you playing football ? if you do, then you could be even more famous than you are now =)16:03
hub_capLOL16:03
hub_capno ;)16:03
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denis_makogonfinally i'm back and ready for the Juno16:05
hub_capyes as am i16:05
hub_capi only have 1 more conference between this and ATL16:05
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hub_capi had 3 confs back to back and 2 personal trips16:06
hub_capso i was pretty much gone for 5 wks lol16:06
hub_capit SUCCCCCCCKED16:06
denis_makogonhand are itching for new code16:06
hub_capyes as soon as we get the mockito merged we can cut rc116:06
hub_capand get juno opened up16:06
denis_makogonhub_cap, look what i found https://gist.github.com/endolith/15779616:07
denis_makogon:mother of the IRC emojis:16:07
hub_capZOMG16:08
hub_capi go here16:09
hub_caphttp://emojicons.com/16:09
hub_capit has them ranked and has a auto copy16:09
hub_cap(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ︵ ╯(°□° ╯)16:09
denis_makogonauto-copy for the housewifes =)16:09
denis_makogonwe are the PRO16:09
denis_makogonto easy to auto-copy16:10
hub_capHAHAHA16:10
hub_capim lazy ;)16:10
cp16net(ʘ෴̴͜ʘ)16:11
cp16netthat looks goofy16:11
denis_makogonlike broken nose16:11
hub_capyes it does cp16net16:12
hub_capmaybe my text browser isint displaying it properly16:12
hub_capi see a goofy box in the middle16:12
cp16netyeah its not16:12
denis_makogonguys, i'd like to notify all of us that i'm coming to the ATL with speech, here are links for the speech draft https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OMg3SSIV6owEBvRtQkBmqj7G30Teo4bqt9BKs2UWq_U/edit?usp=sharing16:12
cp16netits liek a squiggle in the middle16:12
denis_makogonhere's the event link http://openstacksummitmay2014atlanta.sched.org/event/88ea50f1c8d83ebe5d8a4d11a2c36e42#.UzLLxdsVYak16:13
denis_makogonfeel free to post comments16:13
cp16nethmmm i'm wondering if you are looking for feedback in the session or just going to talk about it16:15
denis_makogonit's not the session16:15
denis_makogonit's scheduled open speech16:15
cp16netbecause the design summit part is usually where open discussions happen on topics like that16:16
denis_makogoni took community road map for the replication feature and planning to elaborate it to all listeners16:16
cp16netok16:16
denis_makogonwith the portion of my own vision16:16
denis_makogon(●´ω`●)16:17
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hub_caplol16:18
denis_makogoni think my open speech would be the great kick start for all interested in use of trove as replica/cluster provisioning tool16:20
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denis_makogongood example is the real life use-cases that can be received from the possible user like sc-rm16:21
denis_makogoni think there are a lot guys that would like to hear when and how do we plan to deliver this feature16:21
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SnowDustneed to understand service_type  can anyone help ?16:26
denis_makogonhub_cap, is it possible that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80020/2 this one lands before mockito/mox patch ?16:26
hub_capdo u think its critical to icehouse?16:27
hub_capcuz that what we are focusing on, and the mockito is cuz we arent conforming to the requirements.txt properly16:27
hub_capaka we have to do it16:27
hub_capwe werent going to but we need to16:27
hub_capso if yours is _critical_ (and i dont think a refactor is... its certainly not a bug)16:27
hub_capthen we merge it16:27
hub_capthats how the criteria works16:28
denis_makogonno, it's not critical, it's "nice-to-have-asap"16:28
hub_capbut denis_makogon we are still in RC116:28
hub_capand NO bps are in RC116:28
hub_capits not a bug16:28
denis_makogonyes16:28
hub_capand its certainly not a critical bug to icehouse16:28
denis_makogoni get ut16:28
denis_makogon*it16:28
denis_makogonso, ok, waiting for J116:29
hub_capyup16:29
hub_capjust like everything else16:29
hub_capexcept mockito16:29
cp16netyup16:29
hub_cap:)16:30
cp16neti really wished my db config grps was in but tooooo baaaaaaad....16:30
cp16netsoooooooooo saaaaaaad16:30
SnowDusttrove 101: need to understand service_type  can anyone help ?16:30
cp16netSnowDust: its a type of service16:31
cp16net+1 to me :)16:31
cp16netlolz16:31
hub_capyup too late to intro something like that cp16net16:31
hub_capwe dont need a rc2 to fix a bug u introduced ;)16:32
hub_capnot sayig u would of course hehe16:32
hub_capi know if it was me, id say "hell ya ill intro a bug, maybe 3"16:32
SnowDust:(16:32
cp16netyeah 3 is a good round number16:32
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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/trove: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/7964816:34
hub_capSnowDust: that should be datastore_Type16:34
hub_capif there is still use of service_type we should remove it16:34
cp16netjenkins you need to stop...16:34
hub_capand in the guest we should write service and datastore in redundant form, so we dont mess up any existing16:34
hub_capjenkins is a MONSTER cp16net16:35
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cp16netdamn he just works non stop...16:35
cp16netlike hes a robot or something16:35
SnowDusthub_cap: then whats logically datastore_type ? is it equal ot one of the strings like 'mysql', 'percona' ?16:36
denis_makogonSnowDust, it's not16:37
hub_caphav eu looked in the code?16:37
hub_capdenis_makogon: what do u mean by that?16:37
SnowDusti am looking at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Trove-Replication-And-Clustering-API16:37
denis_makogoni mean that service type is not datastore type16:38
SnowDustClustering and Replication16:38
SnowDustsection has that mention16:38
hub_capdenis_makogon: im pretty sure it is, but service type is legacy16:38
hub_capand we renamed it16:38
cp16netyeah16:38
hub_capim not sure what yer referring to denis_makogon16:38
denis_makogoni thought that cluster service type is not the datastore type for SI16:39
cp16netthat service_type should be a datastore_version_id instead16:39
cp16netreferring in those docs16:39
hub_caphe said service_type, and first ddint mention that he was talking about the clustering stuff16:39
SnowDusthub_cap: anyways it should be one throughout ... or it is confusing us anyway :) even if i dont mention the link earlier, apologies16:40
cp16netsnow dust that doc was started over a year ago i think16:41
hub_capi think the doc is old and needs to be updated to say datastore type16:41
SnowDustcp16net:ok16:41
cp16netyeah because they are refereing to the instance body16:41
cp16netthat changed ;)16:42
cp16neti didnt mean to wink...16:42
hub_capHAHA16:42
hub_capi mean, HAHAH ;)16:42
SnowDust:D16:42
cp16netBender: This is the worst kind of discrimination - the kind against me!16:43
hub_capHomer: Stealing! How could you?! Haven't you learned anything from that guy who gives those sermons at church? Captain Whats-his-name?16:43
cp16netlol16:43
cp16netoh i have a very important question...16:44
cp16nethttp://img1.etsystatic.com/007/0/7257369/il_fullxfull.371642861_5xur.jpg?ref=l216:44
cp16nethttp://img1.etsystatic.com/018/0/8296986/il_570xN.477443651_l2zp.jpg16:45
cp16netwhat do you think16:45
cp16net?16:45
SnowDustcan we update that link pls who have the knowledge16:45
hub_capdid u do that? thats tiiight16:45
SnowDusti meant the one i shared around clustering16:45
hub_capoh etsy16:45
hub_capSnowDust: the people working on it need to update it16:45
hub_capotherwise we risk messing them up16:46
cp16netmy wife can do something like this but i'm trying to figure out what i want on mine16:46
hub_capso dougshelley66 vgnbkr are on the spot heh16:46
cp16neti think that looks pretty cool16:46
cp16netmy new lappy is bare and needs a cool sticker16:46
cp16netwhat do you suggest?16:47
SnowDustvgnbkr: there?16:47
cp16netoh damn this is cool http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/84/3c/9e/843c9e7c4fa34ad66c278cbce65efba4.jpg16:47
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SnowDustcp16net: mario one nice16:48
cp16nethub_cap:  you will like this one http://www.laptopstickershop.com/macbook%20sticker/2011/08/zelda-hyrule-crest-sticker.jpg16:48
hub_capYES16:50
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dougshelley66Snowdust, hub_cap - just catching up16:52
hub_caphey hey np16:52
SnowDustdougshelley66: wc !16:53
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dougshelley66we need to work with amcrn and imsplitbit to synthesize these specs16:54
hub_cap++16:55
SnowDustdougshelley66: when are we touching that doc again ?16:56
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espkeep forgetting the meeting is off by an hour17:06
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imsplitbitdef17:08
imsplitbitI'm tied up in a week long meeting dougshelley66 but you can get started and I'll chip in when/where I can17:08
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hub_capimsplitbit: lies! im sitting next to him right now and hes not doing anything17:10
hub_cap pssh "week long meetings"17:10
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imsplitbitlol17:10
hub_cap;)17:10
imsplitbithow did I get to berkley????17:10
hub_capwell u missed an e17:11
imsplitbitdid you drug me again?17:11
hub_capbefore or after17:11
hub_capZING17:11
hub_capthey dont call it bezerkeley for nothing17:11
amcrndougshelley66 imsplitbit: word. i'm tied up most of this week as well, so let's aim to chat it up sometime next week.17:12
imsplitbitdeal17:12
imsplitbitonly wednesday is bad for me next week17:12
hub_capnow i can confirm amcrn is tied up... its amazing hes still able to type in the straightjacket17:12
imsplitbitsprint planning17:12
amcrnimsplitbit: good ol' agile hocus pocus ;)17:13
amcrnhub_cap: do they have straightjackets in x-small?17:13
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hub_capOMGLOL17:13
SnowDust:D !17:14
amcrnpulled that reference out of my pocket like a true champ17:14
hub_capyea its in the woolworths boys section17:14
amcrnlol17:14
amcrnhave to jump buildings, bbl.17:14
hub_capill see your reference and raise you17:14
SnowDustnot able to put a LOL it needs a ROFL17:14
hub_capamcrn: is batman17:14
hub_cap:P17:14
SnowDustawesome u guys :)17:14
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* amcrn scratches his head17:15
amcrnthat's too meta/obscure, let me think about it :P17:15
amcrnbbl.17:15
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cp16netamcrn: i hope you parcor hardcore jump between buildings17:15
hub_capLOL17:15
* cp16net imagines thats the case17:16
denis_makogonguys, i've got to run, is it ok if i move me topic to the monday ?17:16
denis_makogonsorry for that17:16
hub_capnot sure what u mean17:16
hub_capthe new bp about hte api?17:16
hub_cap*the17:16
denis_makogonyes17:17
denis_makogonpoint in time recovery and data volume snapshots17:17
denis_makogonneed to run due to family reasons, sorry again17:18
hub_capnpnp17:18
hub_capgo do your thing17:18
hub_capill bring it up at meeting17:18
hub_capand we can move discussion to maybe tomorrow for u too17:18
hub_capand discuss monday possibly too17:18
cp16netok17:18
denis_makogonhub_cap, thanks, i've moved topic to Mar. 31 meeting17:19
hub_capk17:19
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esphey folks, could I get some eyes on this pls? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81410/17:40
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SlickNikmeeting time in #openstack-meeting-alt18:00
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esmuteo/18:01
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed a change to openstack/trove: Open Juno development  https://review.openstack.org/8319820:05
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hub_capSlickNik: once we merge yer code, we will merge this ^ ^20:28
hub_capthen ttx will know its time to cut rc120:28
SlickNikhub_cap: Yup, I saw that, and yer −2 for now.20:28
hub_cap:D20:28
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hub_capSlickNik: can u link yer mockito review so i can review it plz sir?20:50
cp16netusing MagicMock huh?20:51
cp16netsounds like a infomercial product20:51
cp16nethub_cap: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8288820:51
cp16netthere ya go20:52
cp16netbut i dont think we should look at it20:52
cp16netbecause Jenkin's didnt +1 it20:52
cp16net:-P20:52
SlickNikcp16net / hub_cap: I'm still working on it.20:52
SlickNikLet me mark it WIP.20:52
cp16netits like a rush against the clock20:53
SlickNiklol20:53
cp16netno pressure....20:53
hub_capshiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii20:54
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hub_capcp16net: u still using irssi?20:58
hub_capdo this -> /set activity_hide_targets #openstack #openstack-dev #openstack-meeting #openstack-meeting-alt #heat20:58
hub_capit will only alert u to highlights now in the activity portion of the statusbar20:59
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amrithhub_cap ... anything like that for hexchat?21:01
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cp16nethub_cap: yup21:02
hub_capamrith: yup, apt-get remove hexchat && apt-get install irssi21:03
hub_cap;)21:03
cp16nethub_cap: lol21:03
cp16nethub_cap: nice tho i get annoyed with that21:03
amrithhmm21:04
amrithtried that21:04
amrithdoesn't work21:04
amrithmaybe I typed something wrong21:04
amrithhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/74397/21:04
cp16netmaybe you need to rm -rf *21:04
cp16net?21:04
cp16netthat might help :-P21:04
amrithone second21:04
cp16netomg21:04
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* cp16net cringes21:04
amrithYeah, that didn't work either21:05
cp16netlol21:05
amrithpl see http://paste.openstack.org/show/74398/21:05
amrith;)21:05
amrithsorry, couldn't resist21:05
amrithwill try irssi21:05
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cp16netLOL21:05
cp16netyou crazy fool21:05
amrithI didn't know my wife used IRC21:06
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cp16net... oh good times21:06
cp16netlol21:06
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amrithtoodles ...21:07
hub_capLOL amrith21:07
hub_capamrith: fwiw, i have my irssi setup on a cloud server (512m) and just ssh to it21:08
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hub_capi keep telling amcrn to do the same but he whines21:08
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hub_cap"oh its 8 dollars a month"21:08
cp16netlol21:08
* cp16net has the same kind of setup21:08
amrithi don't know about irssi; I was thinking I'd just install it on my machine21:08
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amriththe moral equivalent of apt-get remove hexchat ; apt-get install irssi21:09
amrithtranslated for Bill Gates21:09
cp16neti dunno if it will work on one of those old 486 windows machines21:09
amrithwhy? needs more than 64MB?21:09
hub_capheh21:10
amrithI have Windoze 3.1 if it won't do DOS.21:10
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amrith64MB, you know, mega bytes21:10
amrithlots of memory21:10
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amrithfor 48621:10
cp16neti had 4mb21:10
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cp16netso yeah thats like enough to store all the worlds data21:11
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amritheniac didn't have all that much. if you remove all the html decorations and xml decorations, the real data is only a couple of dozen bytes.21:11
* hub_cap didnt know anything about computers until 2001 :P21:12
hub_capwhat are yall talkign about?!!?!?21:12
amrithcomputers21:12
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amrithquick recap for hub_cap21:12
amrithyou suggested how to hid targets in irssi21:13
amrithI asked if you could do that for hexchat21:13
amrithcp16net provided me with a impractical (but feasible) solution21:13
amrithI tried it and proved that it didn't work for me21:13
amrithyou mentioned doing some ssh to a machine21:13
amrith...21:13
amrithcp16net: irssi has windows binaries for download. I'll give it a shot. thx21:14
hub_capahhh thx21:15
hub_capamrith: its just perl, so u should be aiiight21:15
amrithoh goody. encapsulated modem noise21:15
amrithmy favorite programming language21:15
hub_capHAH21:15
cp16netamrith: ok i didnt know that21:17
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amrithhttp://www.irssi.org/download21:17
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amrithhub_cap: seriously, perl is interpreted and these folks talk about binaries and sources. I'm assuming it isn't just perl.21:18
hub_caphmm maybe just the plugins are in perl21:18
amrithah, ok21:18
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hub_capits C21:19
hub_capw/ perl plugins21:19
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hub_capimsplitbit: around?22:58
imsplitbitI am22:58
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juicedid anyone see Florian Haas's email on the mail list?  it had a nice easy speed up that might help our build time23:43
juiceusing squid to cache packages being fetched by all of the install scripts23:44
juiceHas anyone tried this?23:44

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