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| ViswaV | hub_cap: Is there a specific advantage/reason why Trove picked openstack.common.rpc over oslo.messaging? Was it just because oslo.messaging was not yet available at the time? | 00:17 |
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| vipul | why do we have this table today? it seems nothing actually populates it https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/db/sqlalchemy/migrate_repo/versions/005_heartbeat.py | 00:51 |
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| global_ | Hi all | 05:59 |
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| sgotliv | denis_makogon, ping | 08:44 |
| denis_makogon | sgotliv, hi | 08:44 |
| sgotliv | denis_makogon, Good afternoon! Ping me before today's meeting to remind me | 08:45 |
| sgotliv | denis_makogon, please | 08:45 |
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| denis_makogon | sgotliv, ok | 08:48 |
| sgotliv | denis_makogon, thanks, have a nice day | 08:49 |
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| denis_makogon_ | horray | 10:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/trove: Open Juno development https://review.openstack.org/83198 | 12:05 |
| denis_makogon | horray again, Juno opened for the development =) | 12:06 |
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| hub_cap | im back but i was gone for min | 16:10 |
| hub_cap | lol | 16:10 |
| hub_cap | stupid new keyboard is gonna get me into trouble | 16:10 |
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| grapex | hub_cap: What kind of keyboard did you get? | 16:15 |
| hub_cap | on the new x1 | 16:15 |
| hub_cap | the tilde key is not shift escape anymore | 16:15 |
| hub_cap | so its causing my irssi to bounce between windows | 16:15 |
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| denis_makogon | hi, guys | 16:20 |
| hub_cap | howdy | 16:22 |
| hub_cap | hey everyone, myself and vipul are going to be at percona live until late friday. dont expect to see us very much | 16:22 |
| SnowDust | ok hub_cap, wat abt tim, nikhil :) ? | 16:23 |
| hub_cap | SnowDust: grapex SlickNik and amcrn should still be around | 16:23 |
| hub_cap | but i am not their keeper | 16:23 |
| hub_cap | so i cannot speak for them | 16:24 |
| SnowDust | hehe | 16:24 |
| hub_cap | all i know is that vipul and i are at a conference | 16:24 |
| hub_cap | :) | 16:24 |
| grapex | hub_cap: I had a shirt made that says that. | 16:24 |
| hub_cap | grapex: plz send me a copy | 16:24 |
| hub_cap | :) | 16:24 |
| hub_cap | hub_cap is not grapex's keeper ? | 16:24 |
| SnowDust | whats the slogan in the tshirt ? | 16:24 |
| hub_cap | or was it datsun helps me get ahold of grapex.. i needed that one 6mo ago | 16:25 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, grapex could please take a look at styling and correspondence | 16:30 |
| denis_makogon | to the template https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Trove/PointInTimeRecovery | 16:30 |
| hub_cap | oh also robertmyers is there | 16:30 |
| hub_cap | denis_makogon: plz stop linking the wiki | 16:30 |
| hub_cap | just the bp | 16:30 |
| denis_makogon | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/point-in-time-recovery | 16:30 |
| hub_cap | the bp should have the wiki link in it | 16:31 |
| denis_makogon | wrong link copied | 16:31 |
| hub_cap | :) | 16:31 |
| hub_cap | this looks better denis_makogon | 16:32 |
| hub_cap | its reviewable now for next wk | 16:32 |
| denis_makogon | cool | 16:32 |
| denis_makogon | thanks | 16:32 |
| hub_cap | you might want to add info about you are adding new routes | 16:32 |
| hub_cap | vs using the /restore | 16:32 |
| hub_cap | i see you are saying recover or restore | 16:32 |
| hub_cap | is that cuz u want us to help decide? | 16:32 |
| denis_makogon | it's optional, and will be used as community will say | 16:33 |
| hub_cap | if so u should note it, just put a "Questions" on the bottom if thats the case | 16:33 |
| hub_cap | so we can answer them during the meeting on mon | 16:33 |
| denis_makogon | yes | 16:33 |
| hub_cap | cool | 16:33 |
| hub_cap | ok well im getting off the train soon, ill talk to yall later | 16:33 |
| denis_makogon | another question, do we have agenda for today ? | 16:33 |
| hub_cap | denis_makogon: ask SlickNik hes running the show | 16:33 |
| hub_cap | im packing up to go :) | 16:34 |
| denis_makogon | SlickNik, hell, do we have something to discuss today ? | 16:34 |
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| SlickNik | denis_makogon: Just high-fives now that Juno is open | 16:37 |
| SlickNik | And if anyone wants to bring up anything in Open Discussion. | 16:38 |
| SlickNik | Pretty thin agenda today. | 16:38 |
| denis_makogon | i've got question about secgroup-list call | 16:44 |
| denis_makogon | for group and one rule view looks good, but with more than one rule it looks ugly | 16:44 |
| denis_makogon | do we allowed to change the console output ? | 16:45 |
| denis_makogon | as i rememeber we cannot change the response object | 16:45 |
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| SlickNik | We can definitely change the troveclient representation of the response to make it look better, if that's what you mean denis_makogon | 16:54 |
| denis_makogon | SlickNik, yes, as one of the possible variants | 16:55 |
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| denis_makogon | SlickNik, you can verify the bug by the creating the new rules and then list available groups | 16:56 |
| denis_makogon | basically, the pretty table column contains N JSON's and it looks ugly | 16:57 |
| SlickNik | I'm on my way in to the office right now, so can't do that. | 16:57 |
| SlickNik | I know what you're talking about thogh. | 16:57 |
| denis_makogon | SlickNik, of course, you can do that any time =) | 16:58 |
| SlickNik | heh, yeah. Gonna be driving in today so see you guys in a bit. | 16:59 |
| denis_makogon | SlickNik, have you already filed the session proposals ? | 17:05 |
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| kevinconway | SlickNik: vipul: grapex: any meeting agenda for today? seems missing... | 17:38 |
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| SnowDust | kevinconway: <SlickNik> denis_makogon: Just high-fives now that Juno is open | 17:44 |
| SnowDust | <SlickNik> And if anyone wants to bring up anything in Open Discussion. | 17:44 |
| SnowDust | <SlickNik> Pretty thin agenda today. | 17:44 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, good catch, Kevin =) | 17:45 |
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| SlickNik | meeting in #openstack-meeting-alt | 18:00 |
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| denis_makogon_ | esmute, ping | 18:30 |
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| esmute | hi denis_makogon | 18:31 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, hello again | 18:31 |
| esmute | the idea is to have cross region backup support | 18:31 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, have you thought about backup replication use case ? | 18:31 |
| esmute | so we can use a backup that was created from one region in a different region | 18:31 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, i get it, just digging | 18:31 |
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| denis_makogon | esmute, so, you think moving is the right option ? | 18:32 |
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| esmute | yes.. this use case can be solve to replication... but having cross-region backup, provides a flexible way for users who would like to have a stand alone DB... and not necessary replicated from other regions | 18:33 |
| esmute | i think we neeed both | 18:33 |
| esmute | :-) | 18:33 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, agreed, and we need to start from the replication, i guess | 18:34 |
| esmute | i think they are two different features though... This one is about reusing backups from different region. | 18:35 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, because user will expect that his backup is accessable from any endpoint and region | 18:35 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, what you think about co-operation ? | 18:35 |
| esmute | i think that will depend on how you setup your trove control plane. | 18:36 |
| denis_makogon | of course, it's always depends on the deployment | 18:36 |
| esmute | what do you mean about co-operation? | 18:37 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, i mean, we, you and me, can track down this beast =) | 18:37 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, cover both cases, moving and repliation through regions | 18:37 |
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| denis_makogon | what would you say ? | 18:38 |
| esmute | hehe i would... but i believe replication is being worked on by the tesora folks :) | 18:38 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, backup replication | 18:39 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, not the mysql replication =) | 18:39 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, we're talking about backup availability through the multiple regions | 18:40 |
| esmute | sure.. why not. what do you have in mind? | 18:40 |
| denis_makogon | first i think we need to talk to Swift guys | 18:40 |
| denis_makogon | and find out what they can offer to us | 18:40 |
| esmute | i was thinking about something simple for now... being able to copy backups cross-region.... so that the restore will work as how it is now | 18:41 |
| denis_makogon | would it be the moving process or the replication | 18:41 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, restore wouldn't be changed | 18:41 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, the backup base model will have some new attributes | 18:42 |
| denis_makogon | like region | 18:42 |
| esmute | backups uses streaming to read/write to storage. we can leverage that for cross-region copy | 18:42 |
| esmute | denis_makogon: correct... restore would be unchanged | 18:42 |
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| esmute | i was thinking that the backup model will be also unchanged. | 18:43 |
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| denis_makogon | esmute, how do you plan to store the region where the backup exists ? | 18:43 |
| esmute | all it is doing is creating a backup record and push it to storage... but instead of coming from a command that executes an instance backup, it comes from another storage | 18:44 |
| esmute | i was thinking that that stays untouched. | 18:44 |
| esmute | it just creates a new copy in the destination region | 18:44 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, wait a bit, you said, "moving the backup through the regions", and now you telling "copy" | 18:45 |
| esmute | we dont want to access the same backup object, because if that gets deleted by trove from the other region, it could get messy | 18:45 |
| esmute | sorry denis_makogon for the confusion. It is more like a copy | 18:46 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, copy is almost the replication =_ | 18:46 |
| denis_makogon | =) | 18:46 |
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| esmute | well... they wouldnt be synched though.. | 18:47 |
| esmute | if you deleted one, the other backup wouldnt be affected | 18:47 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, about messy deletion, if the backup will have some kind of the restriction field that would not allow to touch this backup, everything will be ok | 18:48 |
| esmute | i was thinking of something simple... | 18:48 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, ok =) | 18:48 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, file the BP and wiki page, then we'll talk again, it would be a bit easier | 18:49 |
| esmute | look at the BP if you havent and do put some comments...we can have this discussion with the rest of the group | 18:49 |
| esmute | denis_makogon: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/cross-region-backup-migration | 18:49 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, what about the ML ? | 18:49 |
| esmute | let see how much interaction we get through here and in the BP's comments... We can take it to the ML if it becomes controversial | 18:51 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, ML is generic, if we want to envolve all community in this convo | 18:52 |
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| esmute | Alright denis_makogon, ill take it to the ML as well | 18:54 |
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| denis_makogon | esmute, coolm thanks for the chat =) | 18:55 |
| esmute | hehe.. thanks | 18:56 |
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| denis_makogon | esmute, one thing left, do you think "migration" is the appropriate word ? | 18:56 |
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| esmute | it will probably confuse people. You prefer copy? | 19:00 |
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| denis_makogon | esmute, what if "backup availability through multiple regions" ? | 19:03 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, straight name, and, i guess, it'll not confuse any on reviewers | 19:04 |
| denis_makogon | *any of | 19:04 |
| esmute | That sounds good...ill edit the wiki | 19:06 |
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| denis_makogon | esmute, anyway, it's your feature, i'm only the guy who offers the help =) | 19:07 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, if you going to edit wiki, you'll need to update the BP also and meeting page | 19:08 |
| esmute | denis_makogon: changed it to 'Cross-region-backups'. i think it is what you suggested but shorter :-) | 19:09 |
| esmute | noted. Thanks! | 19:09 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, i think work "availability" is required here, what would you say ? | 19:10 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, like "Cross-region-backup-availability: | 19:10 |
| esmute | denis_makogon: haha.. ok.. ill change it | 19:11 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, if you leave as you say you'll need to describe what you actually mean | 19:11 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, as i understand, you want to have one backup populated through multiple nodes/regions | 19:12 |
| denis_makogon | something like that | 19:12 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, btw, you raised good topic - region | 19:13 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, not only Swift has regions | 19:13 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, since we're going replication and clustering, we need something like anti-affinity rules | 19:14 |
| denis_makogon | and anti-affinity rules ca describe the region-placement strategy | 19:15 |
| denis_makogon | *can | 19:15 |
| denis_makogon | Sahara (ex-Savanna) has anti-affinity rules while provisioning hadoop clusters | 19:16 |
| * SergeyLukjanov on demand | 19:16 | |
| denis_makogon | and i guess, databases, same as dfs, has to be able to be deployed through multiple data centers | 19:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | denis_makogon, placement control is very important for replications, otherwise you could have replica vm on the same host | 19:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | denis_makogon, at least host control I think | 19:17 |
| denis_makogon | SergeyLukjanov, yes, right | 19:17 |
| esmute | denis_makogon: i think scheduling/affinity discussion suits more with replication... but its a good point | 19:18 |
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| esmute | anyways.. my stomach is growling... be back later | 19:18 |
| denis_makogon | esmute, at least now we can make trove place VM at proposed region (nova and heat are able to handle this region attribute) | 19:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | denis_makogon, fyi you can ask nova to schedule vm on different host by using the "different_host" hint | 19:19 |
| denis_makogon | SergeyLukjanov, correct | 19:19 |
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| denis_makogon | SergeyLukjanov, you mean "scheduler_hints" ? | 19:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | denis_makogon, yup | 19:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | denis_makogon, https://github.com/openstack/sahara/blob/master/sahara/service/direct_engine.py#L207 | 19:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | example from sahara | 19:22 |
| denis_makogon | SergeyLukjanov, thanks | 19:22 |
| denis_makogon | SlickNik, what is the"aa_ids" ? | 19:23 |
| SlickNik | aa_ids? | 19:23 |
| denis_makogon | SergeyLukjanov, what is the"aa_ids" ? | 19:23 |
| SlickNik | oh, that was meant for SergeyLukjanov | 19:24 |
| denis_makogon | SlickNik, sorry, wrong nick mentioned =/ | 19:24 |
| SlickNik | np | 19:24 |
| denis_makogon | SergeyLukjanov, what is the actual meaning of the "aa_ids" ? | 19:24 |
| SergeyLukjanov | denis_makogon, take a look at line #221 | 19:24 |
| SergeyLukjanov | denis_makogon, it's a map "node process -> instance ids" | 19:25 |
| SergeyLukjanov | denis_makogon, our a-a is based on node process, like user could ask sahara to ensure a-a for all nodes with DataNode process on them | 19:25 |
| SergeyLukjanov | denis_makogon, and sure user could ask for several such processes | 19:26 |
| SergeyLukjanov | denis_makogon, so, we're storing all instances to the lists in map by node process as the key | 19:26 |
| denis_makogon | SergeyLukjanov, node process is the one of the hadoop services, right ? | 19:27 |
| SergeyLukjanov | denis_makogon, each service could consist of several processes | 19:27 |
| denis_makogon | like you said DataNode, etc. | 19:27 |
| SergeyLukjanov | denis_makogon, for ex. HDFS is 1xNameNode + NxDataNode | 19:28 |
| denis_makogon | SergeyLukjanov, get it | 19:28 |
| SergeyLukjanov | denis_makogon, where DataNodes are data blocks storages and so we'd like to guarantee "different-hypervisor" reliability for them | 19:28 |
| denis_makogon | SergeyLukjanov, i think we'll be in touch and we'll ask for the best practices of a-a | 19:30 |
| denis_makogon | a-a implementation =) | 19:30 |
| denis_makogon | SergeyLukjanov, thanks for the short intro into the Sahara a-a =) | 19:31 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | denis_makogon, np | 19:31 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sure, ping us for the details | 19:32 |
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| amrith | hub_cap: you around? | 21:48 |
| mat-lowery | trove-integration-gate: RAMLimitExceeded: You can only allocate 4096 RAM (in MB), whereas minimum ram requested is 16384 (in MB) | 21:49 |
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| achampion | quick question, anyone know what I've done wrong. All calls to /<tenant>/instances/<id>/databases fail with a 404 an error of 'No route matched' | 22:35 |
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| achampion | Fails at the api | 22:36 |
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| esp | achampion: are you using the trove client? | 22:41 |
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| achampion | yes | 22:49 |
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| SlickNik | achampion: have you enabled the mysql extensions? | 22:49 |
| SlickNik | achampion: make sure you are setting the api_extensions_path appropriately in your trove.cfg | 22:51 |
| achampion | SlickNik: ahh, maybe not - will check thanks | 22:51 |
| SlickNik | trove.conf* | 22:51 |
| achampion | SlickNik: yes that's there - hmmm | 22:53 |
| achampion | api_extensions_path = trove/extensions/routes | 22:53 |
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| achampion | seems that no extensions are getting loaded despite the path being in the config file. | 23:15 |
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| achampion | looking at my logs I see it used to work Initializing extensions manager -> Loading extensions | 23:27 |
| SlickNik | achampion: Is it no longer doing that? | 23:27 |
| achampion | now the logs read Initializing extensions manager -> Extended resource: extensions but nothing gets loaded | 23:27 |
| achampion | SlickNik: no it isn't :( | 23:28 |
| SlickNik | achampion: How did you install trove? | 23:29 |
| SlickNik | achampion: Can you try using a full path for the extensions instead of a relative path to see if that will work? | 23:29 |
| achampion | git clone | 23:29 |
| achampion | python setup.py install | 23:29 |
| achampion | ok will do | 23:29 |
| achampion | SlickNik: fantastic full path worked - not sure how the relative paths have got screwed up, it used to work. | 23:36 |
| achampion | SlickNik: but now I know what to fix - cheers | 23:36 |
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| SlickNik | achampion: Cool, good to know. I'm going to file a quick bug to look into what's up with the relative paths. | 23:40 |
| SlickNik | achampion: Thanks for the feedback. | 23:41 |
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| SlickNik | achampion: It would be awesome if you could add some more details here when you get a chance: https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1301660 . Thanks! | 23:43 |
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