Thursday, 2014-07-03

openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/trove: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/10402300:00
vipulso there is a 'default' set of capabilities that once you upgrade/or install trove new -- you get.  Deployers from then on have the option of exposing additional conf values by using the mgmt api to add them as capabilities in the DB00:00
amrith1. when code wants a configuration value it uses a single mechanism. let me call it GETCONF00:00
amrith2. GETCONF first looks at a set of capability overrides00:00
amrith3. GETCONF will look at a conf file if no capability overrides are found00:01
amrith4. an operator can store their preferred values into a conf file00:01
amrith5. a trove release will ship with an empty capabilities database ALWAYS, every time00:01
amrith6. when a user updates a conf with the SETCONF call, it makes a capability override00:01
amrith7. there is an optional migration script that will take a conf file and make it a capability set.00:02
amrith<over>00:02
vipulSo one issue i see with that summary is.. how do we know that a CONF is meant to be exposed, if it doesn't exist as a capability and just as a conf option00:02
vipulI don't want to expose every single thing in trove.conf through the API00:03
icchavipul: list capabilties as a config00:03
SlickNikvipul: Yes, youd have to have a list of confs that are "promoted".00:03
icchacapabiltities_list=volume_support,users,00:03
vipuliccha: a new cfg option.. that's a list? ok that could work00:03
SlickNikNow whether you want to expose that as a capability or not, is up to the deployer. :P00:03
icchaphew this sounds almost like a work around to override config values without service restarts00:04
SlickNikamrith: Summary looks okay to me up till 6. 7 doesn't seem all that important.00:04
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openstackgerritAnna Shen proposed a change to openstack/trove-integration: Add support for a neutron-based install  https://review.openstack.org/7812300:04
dougshelley66sorry all just catching up.00:05
amrithSlickNik, meet vipul. vipul meet SlickNik.00:05
amrithoh, I thought you were meeting with rob ford today?00:05
esmutelol00:05
dougshelley66well i did that earlier00:05
dougshelley66but he had to go out for some drinks00:05
dougshelley66so i came home00:05
amrithhe's back at work, very sad and all ...00:05
esmuteSlickNik: +1. I dont know the need to do a migration script to create capabilities out of conf file00:05
dougshelley66so after the discussions today, i think there are other gaps in the capabilities as spec'd00:06
amrithso SlickNik re: #7 that was an integral part of what vipul suggested, I though.00:06
amriththought.00:06
dougshelley66it seems like it makes sense to revist the spec and flesh out some more of these details. We can work on that with whomever would like to help  out00:06
vipulamrith, SlickNik: Yea, i was in favor of seeding the database, but i wasn't thinking of them as purely overrides00:07
esmuteunless we are planning to rid the conf file, i dont see the need to have default capabilities in DB.00:07
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vipulif we go with iccha's proposal, then the API when someone installs trove would return at least something00:07
vipul(i was under the impression we would only return items in the DB, and have a visibility flag in the db)00:08
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dougshelley66i would think the capabilities that are implemented should be put in the database via migration?00:08
vipulso instaed of seeding the DB, i think we woudl want to ensure that a value is set for capabiltities_list=volume_support,users,00:09
icchai think we have some sort of general consensus . we have made progress on bringing up some of the gaps in capabilities. dougshelley66 since he has volunteered can maybe wikify a proposal we could look at next meeting?00:09
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icchameanwhile if other features want to get started, they could start by adding config values since that does seem to fit into the current plans?00:10
amrithso, out of curiousity, is the capabilities feature even relevant?00:11
amrithany more, that is?00:11
amrithalso, dougshelley66's question is still open ...00:12
vipulwhat i want is an API that can tell me how Trove is configured, so I can do special things based on what comes back.00:12
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vipulI don't care if we call that capabilities, or read-only conf, or whatever00:12
dougshelley66i have some thoughts on improvements to the previously laid out feature that could address what vipul is talking about00:13
abramleyVipul +100:13
esmuteso that goes back to having a simplified version of capabilities (readonly). Which i think, based on the level of discussion and disagreement, we should do00:13
esmuteHappy Canada Day dougshelley66, btw!00:13
icchai dont mean to cut off this discussion, but i did have another question i wanted to bring up wrt volume support and the api responses we send00:14
dougshelley66i think capabilities needs to support read-only (i.e. product implemented stuff) and read-write (i.e. operator modifiable) thngs00:14
dougshelley66it doesn't now00:14
amrithiccha, before you do ...00:14
dougshelley66i also think that we need to work in "datastore manager" capabilities vs datastore-version capabilities00:14
amrithdo you have what you need in a decision00:14
SlickNikOkay so what's the main scenario to be able to override (set - read/write) CONF values on the fly like this?00:14
dougshelley66i think the former are read only and the latter could be read-write00:15
dougshelley66anyway, i think i would like to think a bit on the feedback and take a shot at writing it up00:15
icchaamrith: i think irrespective of how we decide to populate the capabilities db, looks like we re going to need config values00:15
icchathanks dougshelley66 :) i think rueben would be interested  in helping out as well00:16
dougshelley66iccha ok sounds good - schang will also be involved00:16
SlickNikas far as I can tell, the requirements behind the initial capabilities BP was to only expose config values programmatically via an API (read-only).00:16
dougshelley66well the thing that doesn't make sense is that the overrides are by datastore version00:17
dougshelley66which could only be relevant at the operator level00:17
amrithSlickNik, dougshelley66, vipul, iccha, esmute ... thanks folks. good chatting. now have to go see about dinner. will be in and out.00:17
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SlickNikamrith: thanks! Bon apetit.00:17
icchathanks amrith have a good dinner00:18
esmuteamrith: Buen provecho00:18
amriththx iccha00:18
icchaSlickNik: i wanted to bring up about api response as well. and right now volume in the repsonse is config driver00:18
amrithesmute, i no habla espanol00:18
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esmuteamrith: But you must speak French then00:18
amrithesmute, I no habla fracais ;)00:20
SlickNikiccha: Not sure I fully grokked what you meant by that. Can you elucidate?00:20
icchasure SlickNik https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/common/apischema.py#L19200:21
icchaand https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/flavor/views.py#L3800:21
icchaand since we are moving to datastore specific configs and in the above two cases are indepedent of datastore stores00:22
icchai think we should modify response to always show both volume and local_storage00:22
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SlickNikiccha: That's a tricky issue. That's one possible solution, I think. Might need to mull that over for a bit.00:26
icchaokays thanks SlickNik for playing moderator today :)00:27
SlickNikiccha: Not a problem. Thank you!00:28
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/trove: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/10407406:06
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openstackgerritlawrancejing proposed a change to openstack/trove: Add CONTRIBUTING.rst  https://review.openstack.org/10378707:00
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/trove: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/10407408:37
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denis_makogonSlickNik, ping , need to talk to you about ceilometer BP and your -2 on stats patch09:38
denis_makogonSlickNik, also, your suggestion at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96795/ generates PEP8 issues, because import line is too long (83 symb.) and suggestion to use "\" is more that weired, because it's 100% not pythonic way09:40
denis_makogonSlickNik, so, please re-review patchj09:40
openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove-integration: Fix signature for launching int-tests  https://review.openstack.org/10320109:42
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/python-troveclient: Add instance/backups stats API  https://review.openstack.org/10385309:59
openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Mark all running backups as FAILED when instance was deleted  https://review.openstack.org/10283810:00
amrithdenis_makogon, you there?10:35
amrithdenis_makogon, when you get back please see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9679510:44
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amrithI'm almost positive (but I won't claim to speak for him) that what SlickNik is objecting to is that H301 does not like your importing more than one module in a single import statement. He is not objecting to the use of () to wrap the line, just that you changed the wrapped line to import three things. He's asking that you make this three wrapped lines.10:45
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denis_makogonamrith, it's hard to follow rules (hacking) that are not being tested, so, there's another issue, it's not enough PEP8 rules checks in Trove11:01
openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Fix tracking of SG's provisioned by Heat  https://review.openstack.org/9679511:02
denis_makogonamrith, we don't have to be mediums to know what is being affected or not11:02
amrithdenis_makogon, I don't understand either of your comments. please elaborate. I think what SlickNik is proposing is very concrete. he is objecting to the violation of H301 which very clearly states that you shouldn't import more than 1 module per line. you imported 3.11:05
denis_makogonamrith, i get that, but i don't see where hacking check in being performed, so, it's pretty interesting to see comments that are saying that given code affects something that never is being checked11:06
amrithdenis_makogon, take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84258/11:08
amrithmaybe I missed some email on the thread that says a similar change will be rolled out more widely11:08
amrithalso https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67147/11:09
denis_makogon amrith https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/tox.ini#L4411:10
amrithdenis_makogon, I get it. your code passed jenkins and reddwarf. so I realize that H301 wasn't being enforced.11:11
denis_makogonamrith, as i said, i don't have to be medium to know that something is failing, but "something" is neven been examined11:11
denis_makogon*never11:11
denis_makogonamrith, until H301 is ignored - comments about imports are nothing else than "wishlist" things11:12
denis_makogonthat's all11:12
denis_makogonnot even reason of -1, since check for certain rule is ignored11:13
amrithsorry denis_makogon I thought I'd help. my mistake.11:18
denis_makogonamrith, np, everything is ok, thanks =)11:20
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Mark all running backups as FAILED when instance was deleted  https://review.openstack.org/10283813:50
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Mark all running backups as FAILED when instance was deleted  https://review.openstack.org/10283814:41
openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Update backup state when guest error occures  https://review.openstack.org/10226214:41
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Mark all running backups as FAILED when instance was deleted  https://review.openstack.org/10283814:43
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Mark all running backups as FAILED when instance was deleted  https://review.openstack.org/10283814:54
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Mark all running backups as FAILED when instance was deleted  https://review.openstack.org/10283814:56
openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Mark all running backups as FAILED when instance was deleted  https://review.openstack.org/10283814:56
openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Mark all running backups as FAILED when instance was deleted  https://review.openstack.org/10283814:57
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Mark all running backups as FAILED when instance was deleted  https://review.openstack.org/10283815:04
openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Update backup state when guest error occures  https://review.openstack.org/10226215:04
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Add notifications for trove.backup.* actions  https://review.openstack.org/10220615:18
openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Add notifications for trove.instance.* actions  https://review.openstack.org/10118915:18
openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Add notifications for trove.instance.resize.flavor.* actions  https://review.openstack.org/10458215:18
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/trove: Remove redundant heat templates from codebase  https://review.openstack.org/9900016:04
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Add notifications for trove.instance.resize.flavor.* actions  https://review.openstack.org/10458216:04
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Add notifications for trove.instance.resize.*.* actions  https://review.openstack.org/10458216:09
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anteayaSlickNik: let me know your latest status and if there is anything i can do to help16:15
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openstackgerritGreg Lucas proposed a change to openstack/trove-integration: Re-mount swift disk image in start-deps  https://review.openstack.org/10264216:30
openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Enable H301 hacking rule  https://review.openstack.org/10461616:41
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SlickNikdenis_makogon: It's fine to wrap the line using parens if it's longer than 80 chars; what the comment was mentioning was that we should try and not have multiple modules imported in the same line.16:49
SlickNikdenis_makogon: Looks like you've fixed that in the new patchset that you resubmitted.16:50
denis_makogonSlickNik, i get and fixed that, but H301 is disabled for tox checks16:50
denis_makogonSlickNik, so, i submitted new patch that allows H301 to be examined over given code16:50
SlickNikdenis_makogon: Okay. Sounds good.16:51
denis_makogonSlickNik, but there's a problem, when H301 gets enabled code is being examined with H302 too16:52
denis_makogonH302 - import only module16:52
denis_makogonso i added H302 to ignore list16:52
SlickNikI'd prefer to fix issues with H302 rather than add it to the import list.16:53
denis_makogonSlickNik, another question, about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103239/, there's no changes for taskamanager service16:53
SlickNikBut these are style issues, so I'd prioritize fixing other bugs over them.16:53
denis_makogonSlickNik, that's why i did only H301, because H302 will take too much efforts16:54
denis_makogonSlickNik, i do agree that H302 should be fixed, but not for now, i suppose16:55
SlickNikdenis_makogon: If you don't have the bandwidth that's okay. Someone else might pick it up if they have the time / inclination.16:55
SlickNikdenis_makogon: That's the good part about open source. :)16:56
denis_makogonSlickNik, yes, i up for giving this task to someone else16:56
denis_makogon*i'm16:56
denis_makogonSlickNik, can we talk about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103853/?16:57
SlickNikSure thing.16:57
denis_makogonSlickNik, i've read initial BP and convo16:58
denis_makogonand was made a decision to add new admin API calls16:59
SlickNikDecision by whom, can I ask?16:59
denis_makogoncommunity, it was a regular weekly meeting16:59
SlickNikCan you point me to the notes?16:59
SlickNikAnd why is this information not in the BP?16:59
denis_makogonsure, let me find a link16:59
denis_makogonabout what ?16:59
denis_makogonSlickNik, all notification types and mgmt API calls are there17:00
SlickNikAbout the stats API? I don't see any API changes for that bp17:00
SlickNikhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/ceilometer-integration17:00
SlickNikThere aren't any details in that BP.17:01
denis_makogonSlickNik, New mgmt API routes for pollster should be added:17:02
denis_makogonSlickNik, right after notifications17:02
SlickNikThe BP doesn't say anything about API routes for the pollster.17:04
SlickNikI'd suggest spending some time working on the design details and the BP first — and fleshing those out before pushing up code.17:04
SlickNikSince it came out of dormancy, I'd suggest using the BP template format to iron those out as well.17:05
denis_makogonok17:06
denis_makogonSlickNik, last thing, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97510/17:07
SlickNikWhat about it?17:09
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denis_makogonSlickNik, everything was fixed according all comments, could this be approved?17:12
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SlickNikdenis_makogon: If everything has been fixed, I'm sure it'll get approved when folks have a chance to look at it.17:14
SlickNikdenis_makogon: The latest patchset was only uploaded this morning.17:15
denis_makogonSlickNik, no, gerrit says Jun.2717:15
SlickNikoh, sorry I was looking at the wrong change. My bad.17:16
openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Add notifications for trove.instance.resize.*.* actions  https://review.openstack.org/10458217:16
openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Add notifications for trove.backup.* actions  https://review.openstack.org/10220617:16
denis_makogonSlickNik, np17:16
denis_makogoni'm out, gonna be available at 4-6 PM17:16
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SlickNikSure thing. Will make sure to take a look at it when doing reviews.17:16
johnmaI just wanted to bring up the issue I had yesterday with installing a different datastore using redstart kick-start command. So yesterday running this command didnt install a guest VM with mysql. I saw a note that mentioned SlickNik had a change go in for trove-integration last week and my setup was couple of weeks old so I got the latest one today and tried it again. But now it complains...17:18
johnma...about cloud-init-datasources not found in certain directories. Does anyone know where I can find this or what this error means17:18
johnmaThank you17:18
openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Enable H301 hacking rule  https://review.openstack.org/10461617:18
SlickNikjohnma: You probably need to update the tripleo-image-elements repo as well.17:20
SlickNikshould be at /opt/stack/tripleo-image-elements17:20
johnmaok. let me try that. Thanks SlickNik17:21
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johnmaSlickNik: I got past that error. I actually had to update the diskimage-builder repo for it to work. But the kickstart still fails to get mysql. I can see an error message which says: 'chroot: failed to run command 'sh': Exec format error"18:14
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johnmaI have pasted a snippet of the output at paste.openstack.org/show/85445. Thanks18:19
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/trove: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/10402319:01
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anteayaSlickNik: any news?19:18
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