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icchagriff: yes we will :)01:18
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/trove: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/10889906:06
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openstackgerritTheron Voran proposed a change to openstack/trove: Allow users the ability to update an instance name  https://review.openstack.org/9270114:04
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openstackgerritPeter Stachowski proposed a change to openstack/trove: Unit Tests for Mysql replication functionality  https://review.openstack.org/10931315:04
openstackgerritTheron Voran proposed a change to openstack/trove: Allow users the ability to update an instance name  https://review.openstack.org/9270115:09
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Fix poll_until retriever when heat provisioning is enabled  https://review.openstack.org/9719415:12
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openstackgerritPeter Stachowski proposed a change to openstack/trove: Unit Tests for Mysql replication functionality  https://review.openstack.org/10931315:24
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openstackgerritRiddhi Shah proposed a change to openstack/python-troveclient: Associate flavor types with datastore versions  https://review.openstack.org/10982616:03
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openstackgerriticcha-sethi proposed a change to openstack/trove: Per datastore volume support  https://review.openstack.org/10711716:15
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openstackgerritRiddhi Shah proposed a change to openstack/trove-integration: Associate flavor types with datastore versions  https://review.openstack.org/10982716:48
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cp16netreminder blueprint meeting in a few min17:58
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cp16net#startmeeting trove-bp-review18:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jul 28 18:00:37 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cp16net. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'trove_bp_review'18:00
amritho/18:00
bodeno/18:00
dougshelley66o/18:00
schang0/18:01
peterstaco/18:01
grapexo/18:01
cp16netbtw i'm filling in for SlickNik today18:01
vipulo/18:01
cp16net#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveBPMeeting18:01
tvorano/18:01
cp16netlooks like we have one blueprint to talk about from boden18:01
cp16net#topic Dynamic extension loading using stevedore18:02
cp16net#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/dynamic-extension-loading18:02
cp16netboden: take it away18:02
bodenI think the BP wiki describes it in full #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Trove/DynamicExtensionLoading18:03
bodenthe idea is to use stevedore to load our api extensions to permit consumers to bind in extensions outside the current single path mechanism18:03
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bodennote -- a concern posed by Denis on the email list #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/041363.html18:04
bodenthe concern is if we are moving to pecan (or something else like falcon) is it worth refactoring this extension discovery and loading right now18:04
dougshelley66do we have any idea when that is going to happen?18:05
cp16neti *think* those are separate concerns18:05
robertmyersI say extensions should be separate18:05
vipulsounds like it.. pecan would still require stevedore18:05
amrithwe talked about this in Atlanta and said it wasn't anytime soon.18:05
bodenin the email it was suggested pecan in the "K" timeframe18:05
amriththat suggestion has been made in two contexts now, and it would be a good thing to either ratify it as the official position, or shut down the rumor.18:06
amrithit was also suggested in the context of the WSGI email thread.18:06
amrithmaybe someone on core could opine on this18:06
bodenIMO -- if by moving to pecan we are saying extension discovery / loading chagnes then I agree; maybe we hold off... however I tend to think the discovery / loading is separate from pecan but would need to investigate more18:07
robertmyersboden: everything looks good, only on your POC you are changing an openstack oslo lib, other than that it looks clean18:07
grapexSeems like our typical dilemma- we want to make Trove better but are told some future OpenStack framework will change everything we do so we shouldn't even begin. :(18:07
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vipulboden: +1 they should be separate things18:08
dougshelley66grapex: I think you made a reasonable point on that topic in the metadata thread last week18:08
peterstacwe can always refactor if/when pecan lands18:08
robertmyerspeterstac: +118:08
grapexpeterstac: +118:08
amrithgrapex: +118:08
amrithrobertmyers: +118:08
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amrithboden: +118:08
robertmyersamrith: +218:08
amrithvipul: +118:08
bodenI do have 1 open question on this BP tho18:08
dougshelley66amrith: +118:08
grapexTo be clear, I don't like the idea of saying "wait, maybe Pecan won't support this." I think good code is flexible18:08
amrithso that's a total of +418:08
amrith;)18:09
amrithis denis_makogon around ...18:09
grapexamrith: Too bad! We're going to use up this half-hour come hell or high-water!18:09
bodenthe open question is on backwards compat (for upgrade and the like)...18:09
grapexj/k!18:09
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amrithI guess not18:09
bodenIn the BP wiki I proposed a few ideas... seems liket he safest is to leave the existing loading by path in the code and only load extensions from path when they have not been loaded via stevedore18:09
bodenthoughts18:09
cp16netboden: i'm not sure i understand what you are ask18:09
robertmyersboden: ah, since this was deperecated years ago in oslo, I think it is safe for us to change18:10
cp16netlol18:10
bodenOK18:10
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bodenany other questions / concerns?18:10
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robertmyersif you can destroy all the history of the previous version18:11
robertmyers:)18:11
bodenha18:11
vipulif building a new package means the extensions continue to load.. then we don't need ot worry about backwards compat18:11
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cp16neti think we all have been wishing for this change for a while now18:11
bodenvipul - yes true from a trove proper perspective... but if consumers had copied "custom" extensions into the extension path they will not be loaded18:12
vipulIMO that's a case we shoudln't need to handle.. if you have private code.. it's your responsibility to retrofit that code in whatever way needed18:12
grapexvipul: +100018:12
robertmyersvipul: +118:12
cp16netvipul: +118:13
robertmyersthis is not an api contract18:13
robertmyersjust we never cleaned up after it was deprecated in oslo18:13
robertmyersso this is our bad18:14
bodenok18:14
cp16netso we should vote on this...18:14
amrithchoices are +1 or -1?18:14
kevinconwayamrith: +1, -1, or +1_or-1_based_on_future_conversations18:15
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cp16net#startvote Dynamic extension loading using stevedore? Yeah, Naw, maybe_later18:15
openstackBegin voting on: Dynamic extension loading using stevedore? Valid vote options are Yeah, Naw, maybe_later.18:15
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.18:15
amrith#vote Yeah18:15
grapexYeah18:15
robertmyers#vote Yeah18:15
grapex#vote Yeah18:15
peterstac#vote Yeah18:15
dougshelley66#vote Yeah18:15
vipul#vote Yeah18:15
tvoran#vote Yeah18:15
cp16net#vote Yeah18:15
boden#vote Yeah18:16
grapexcp16net: One option should've been Alright alright18:16
amrithboden can't vote ;)18:16
bodensorry18:16
amrithisn't that a conflict of interest thing ... Just kidding. Boden can vote ;)18:16
vipulcandidates cast their own ballots too ;)18:16
* cp16net waits for more votes18:16
amrith#vote Yeah18:16
* robertmyers waits for cp16net18:16
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cp16net#endvote18:17
openstackVoted on "Dynamic extension loading using stevedore?" Results are18:17
openstackYeah (9): boden, robertmyers, amrith, peterstac, tvoran, cp16net, vipul, dougshelley66, grapex18:17
cp16netnice18:17
cp16netlooks like that was all thats on the agenda18:17
cp16netthanks for playing18:17
vipulwell done cp16net18:17
cp16net#endmeeting18:17
openstackMeeting ended Mon Jul 28 18:17:49 2014 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)18:17
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove_bp_review/2014/trove_bp_review.2014-07-28-18.00.html18:17
vipulthanks boden18:17
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove_bp_review/2014/trove_bp_review.2014-07-28-18.00.txt18:17
grapexThanks cp16net!18:17
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove_bp_review/2014/trove_bp_review.2014-07-28-18.00.log.html18:17
cp16net#record time18:17
amriththat was quick!18:18
cp16net:-P18:18
bodenthanks18:18
amrithgood job cp16net18:18
cp16netthx everyone18:19
* cp16net pushes my easy button18:20
cp16neteveryone turned and looked at me funny18:20
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amrithjust saw this ... http://openstackreactions.enovance.com/2014/07/my-reaction-when-someone-nitpick-on-my-reviews/18:56
amrithI've known of dnsreactions and similar sites but openstackreactions is new to me ;)18:56
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grapexSlickNik amcrn vipul: I was wondering if you could review this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102972/19:14
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htrmeiraHi guys, I am having some troubles creating a guest image for trove, does anyone know where can I find a tutorial?19:24
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amrithhtrmeira, what's the problem you are facing19:25
amrithfyi: I'm writing the tutorial right now ...19:25
amcrngrapex: done19:26
grapexThanks amcrn!19:28
htrmeiraI created an image with mysql-5.5 and installed trove-guestagent on it. I have updated the datastore and datastore_version. When I create a database instance, the volume is created, the instance is created, the log on the instance show no errors, but I am getting a "PollTimeOut: Polling request timed out" exception.19:28
htrmeiraDo you have an idea of what it can be? =)19:28
htrmeiraAmazing, do you have a date to have a first version of the tutorial online?19:29
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htrmeiraAlso, there is no trove-conductor service or package (to ubuntu 14.04) is it normal?19:35
amcrnhtrmeira: it's likely that "usage_timeout" for the datastore is being exceeded.19:35
amcrnhtrmeira: what datastore are you provisioning? and is this on devstack or ?19:36
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* amcrn will be back in a bit, grabbing food19:37
htrmeiramysql (mysql-5.5). I am installing the packages from ubuntu (14.04) repository.19:37
htrmeiraOk. =)19:38
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/trove: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/10659519:40
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glucashtrmeira: So you can ssh to the instance and see the trove guestagent log -- nothing unusual there?19:48
htrmeiraYeps. I think that only this is unusual: ERROR trove.guestagent.datastore.mysql.service [-] Process execution19:49
glucasthe default usage_timeout for mysql is 400 seconds, I believe. If you are using the ubuntu packages (i.e. the icehouse release) then the instance remains in the BUILD state when that timeout has elapsed.19:49
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grapexdenis_makogon: Hi19:50
htrmeiraThat is exactly what is happening. It stays stucked on BUILD until change to ERROR.19:50
glucashtrmeira: there are a number of reported bugs with the ubuntu packages of trove, just looking for the list19:51
openstackgerriticcha-sethi proposed a change to openstack/trove: Per datastore volume support  https://review.openstack.org/10711719:51
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glucashtrmeira: these issues are not fixed for Trusty, it looks like. E.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openstack-trove/+bug/130852319:53
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/trove: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/10659519:54
htrmeiraYes, I think that only on ubuntu Utopic.19:54
glucashtrmeira: if you look here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openstack-trove/ and change the search criteria to include 'fix released' you'll see half a dozen issues that are fixed in utopic but still broken in trusty.19:55
htrmeiraIn this case, I think I will wait the next release, I think Utopic goes online next month.19:57
htrmeiraThanks for the help, glucas. =)19:57
glucashtrmeira: depending on your needs, you could try the Tesora debs? We've packaged our own debs of trove icehouse for trusty, addressing those issues and a few other things.19:58
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glucashtrmeira: there are guest images available for a number of datastore as well. http://resources.tesora.com/site/download/tesora-dbaas19:58
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htrmeiraSeems good. I will take a look.20:01
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glucashtrmeira: ok - let me know if you have any questions, either here or in #tesora. Good luck!20:04
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htrmeiraThanks. =)20:07
amrithhtrmeira, working actively on the tutorial (also submitted a talk for Paris on the subject).20:07
amrithbut you are in good hands with glucas ...20:07
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/trove: guestagent/volume: Remove not necessary sudo call  https://review.openstack.org/10631520:26
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-troveclient: Improve help text for --size option  https://review.openstack.org/10941420:32
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/trove: Make configuration tests configurable by datastore  https://review.openstack.org/10297221:34
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icchavipul: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107117/22:09
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vipuliccha: Ok - will look22:14
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/trove: Handle exception from pexpect child.close  https://review.openstack.org/10804422:18
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openstackgerritJoe Cruz proposed a change to openstack/trove-integration: Add configuration test configs  https://review.openstack.org/10297322:29
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