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cp16net | peterstac: could you look at this patch please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184349/ | 03:54 |
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cp16net | or vkmc ^^ | 03:54 |
cp16net | not sure if anyone is around now but its the last patch we talked about at the last meeting to get in | 03:55 |
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psb | any one there for help..? | 06:57 |
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psb | @amrith i have download trove image from tarballs.openstack.org ...but how i set rabbitmq hostm username and password on that image | 08:08 |
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hyperbaba | Are there any plans to use some mediator/broker for rabbitmq access. This way direct access to internal rabbitmq from the tenant image is a little to crazy. | 09:14 |
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amrith | psb, you don't have to | 11:42 |
amrith | that's taken care of for you during launch | 11:43 |
amrith | hyperbaba, not sure what you mean, care to explain in more detail? | 11:43 |
psb | do i need any cloudinit script on controller for guest agent | 11:44 |
psb | ? | 11:44 |
hyperbaba | amrith: the trove-guestagent on trove initiated compute instance needs access to rabbitmq (or some other AMPQ). This means that the tenant network needs direct access to rabbitmq network which is part of infastructure | 11:45 |
amrith | psb, you don't need anything special. when the instance is launched, the config files are sent over automatically. | 11:45 |
amrith | hyperbaba, yes. | 11:46 |
hyperbaba | amrith: You guys don't see the problem in exposing rabbitmq network to tenant network ? | 11:46 |
amrith | psb, one suggestion. I'm not sure what your setup is. From the sounds of it, it was something that was not standard (I think). It may simplify your getting started with trove if you started with a known configuration/setup. | 11:47 |
amrith | hyperbaba, I've heard people speak passionately about why this is a horrible problem and why it is not a problem at all. | 11:48 |
amrith | The point of view that this is "crazy" is certainly not a new one. | 11:48 |
hyperbaba | amrith: I see the problem. I'm not paranoid or something but this aproach breaks segregation layers upon which cloud resides. I've solved the problem for my self by creating simple tcp proxy to resend messages back and forward to AMPQ on some publicaly accessible network without exposing the internal network. But this is a hack | 11:50 |
amrith | hyperbaba, does that 'solve the problem'? | 11:51 |
amrith | hack or otherwise | 11:51 |
amrith | does it solve whatever you perceive to be the problem? | 11:51 |
hyperbaba | amrith: for me, yes. But there are people which are not going to venture in "hacking" to have propely secured infrastructure. | 11:52 |
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amrith | ok | 11:53 |
hyperbaba | amrith: my observation (looking at the phase plans) is that maybe conductor can be used to tranfer guestagent's messages to rabbitmq and vice versa and not to rabbitmq directly. This way you can have trove endpoint on publicaly accessible network and no problem with infrastructure security (in a sense of network connectivity) | 11:55 |
pmackinn | hyperbaba, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193010 | 12:06 |
hyperbaba | pmackinn: Half way there. The admin tenant network is also isolated from infrastructure. On the other hand who will pay for that machine in the billing system? Tenant certanly would'nt because it's admin instance. | 12:09 |
pmackinn | hyperbaba, you can separate trove tenant (and it's own mq) from admin tenant | 12:11 |
hyperbaba | pmackinn: that's way better solution. So the MQ is just used for trove-trove communication. This info i've missed somewhere. | 12:12 |
pmackinn | hyperbaba, taskmanager<->nova,etc. (REST), ga<->conductor (separate MQ) | 12:14 |
pmackinn | hyperbaba, not perfect but allows MQ isolation | 12:15 |
hyperbaba | pmackinn: Nice. This one have much more sense. | 12:15 |
hyperbaba | pmackinn: So nova/glance/cinder communication is api only.. No sneaky Messages over ampq? | 12:16 |
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pmackinn | hyperbaba, even possibly same MQ but separate vhosts with separate ACLs (need to test this myself) | 12:17 |
pmackinn | hyperbaba, that's the idea | 12:17 |
hyperbaba | pmackinn: +1 for that one | 12:18 |
amrith | pmackinn, recommended config is private mq for trove | 12:23 |
amrith | (says so on the book) | 12:23 |
pmackinn | amrith, wait? there's a BOOK? | 12:24 |
pmackinn | Gospel According to Amrith | 12:24 |
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amrith | that's not true. | 12:26 |
amrith | what about dougshelley66 | 12:26 |
pmackinn | amrith, understood...some deployment automation tools would have an easier time starting with multi-vhost setup, but yeah ack | 12:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Van Dijk proposed openstack/trove: Backup to swift using wrong large object type https://review.openstack.org/222752 | 14:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Duk Loi proposed openstack/python-troveclient: Add root-disable api https://review.openstack.org/196021 | 15:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Duk Loi proposed openstack/python-troveclient: Add root-disable api https://review.openstack.org/196021 | 15:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Stachowski proposed openstack/trove-specs: Refactor the datastore manager classes https://review.openstack.org/231572 | 16:14 |
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cp16net | vkmc: amrith peterstac: could one of you look at this patch please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184349/ | 16:41 |
vkmc | cp16net, sure | 16:41 |
cp16net | thx! | 16:41 |
cp16net | vkmc: peterstac and amrith had comments early on in that patch after edmondk and i looked over it maybe they should take a peek as well | 16:48 |
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amrith | cp16net, will do that | 17:07 |
cp16net | thx | 17:08 |
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peterstac | cp16net, I'll take a look as well | 17:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Stachowski proposed openstack/trove-integration: Use current branch for devstack/projects https://review.openstack.org/222315 | 18:11 |
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pmackinn | cp16net, ping scheduled backups | 20:04 |
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cp16net | pmackinn: whats up | 20:11 |
pmackinn | cp16net, any updates on that blueprint? | 20:12 |
cp16net | i have not updated it in a long time | 20:12 |
cp16net | if someone else would like to pick it up that would be great | 20:12 |
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pmackinn | cp16net, might do...do you think it needs a "v2 api" home or added to v1 | 20:14 |
cp16net | i'd have to look at it again | 20:29 |
cp16net | pmackinn: i think it could be a v1 api thing | 20:32 |
cp16net | we havnt started on v2 yet | 20:32 |
pmackinn | cp16net, right...was wondering if it would potentially impact other parts of the api | 20:33 |
cp16net | i dont think it should unless theres something i'm not thinking about at the moment | 20:38 |
cp16net | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Trove/scheduled-tasks | 20:38 |
cp16net | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-kilo-sprint-scheduled-tasks | 20:38 |
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cp16net | i see those links and it was talked about at the kilo mid cycle in seattle | 20:38 |
cp16net | (i wasnt there) | 20:38 |
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cp16net | but it mentions that dougshelley66 would look the over | 20:39 |
cp16net | i dont think much work has been done on it tho | 20:39 |
cp16net | havnt heard it brought up in a while | 20:39 |
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sharikapongubala | peterstac , about the nic-az patch , isnt the metavar help message only supposed to have the parameters that are absolutely necessary ? | 21:14 |
sharikapongubala | so isnt <flavor=flavor_name_or_id,volume=volume> enough | 21:14 |
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cp16net | peterstac: quick q about the the az client patch | 21:31 |
cp16net | did it work fine? just the help was hard to make out? | 21:31 |
dougshelley66 | cp16net, pmackinn on Schedule Tasks | 21:38 |
dougshelley66 | we are definitely interested in that - my task from that mid-cycle was to see if Mistral would be of help. Turns out it doesn't have a scheduler in it currently | 21:40 |
dougshelley66 | I also talked to someone about TaskFlow which doesn't seem to fit the bill either | 21:40 |
cp16net | dougshelley66: i think if we just use a periodic task for now that would be fine | 21:49 |
cp16net | we could look at how we could make that plugable if others want to use something else later | 21:49 |
cp16net | because not all deployments may have those dependecies i would think | 21:50 |
cp16net | not sure if thats true or not just thinking out load | 21:50 |
cp16net | loud* | 21:50 |
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cp16net | sharikapongubala: can you clean up the help | 22:03 |
sharikapongubala | cp16net yea sure but just thought that the first help line that says flavor= and volume= does not need nic= because it is not absolutely necessary to specify a nic parameter | 22:06 |
sharikapongubala | the bigger help message can be cleaned up | 22:06 |
dougshelley66 | cp16net sure that could work | 22:07 |
cp16net | i was just reading over the argparser for metavar | 22:07 |
cp16net | https://docs.python.org/2/library/argparse.html#metavar | 22:07 |
cp16net | looks like its just the displayed name of the help message | 22:08 |
cp16net | so that shouldnt be an issue to change like peterstac mentioned | 22:08 |
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cp16net | sharikapongubala: if you just make the metavar=<instance_options> | 22:10 |
cp16net | and define what instance_options mean in the long help text that would be fine | 22:10 |
sharikapongubala | ok sure thanks :) | 22:10 |
cp16net | i think you can use some \n to drop to a new line in the help message to clean up the text a bit | 22:11 |
cp16net | because it does look like a long run on as is. | 22:11 |
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pmackinn | dougshelley66, mistral doesn't have a scheduler? um, what is that project then? | 22:41 |
dougshelley66 | as i understand it, it doesn't currently have a scheduler the way we would expect for backups etc. The project has been focused on workflow | 22:42 |
dougshelley66 | i think they would like someone to contribute a scheduler that would work for them | 22:42 |
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pmackinn | ah, so they're focused on DAG | 22:46 |
pmackinn | need something like chronos, but that would put the mesos wolf at the door | 22:47 |
cp16net | hah ayeah | 22:50 |
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peterstac | cp16net, it seemed to work fine, although the show command doesn't display availability_zone so I just assumed it worked :) | 22:57 |
cp16net | ah gotcha | 23:01 |
cp16net | tite | 23:01 |
peterstac | so yeah, the only thing I found confusing what trying to figure out the command from the help | 23:01 |
peterstac | is sharikapongubala going to push up another patchset, or do you just want to fix it later? | 23:02 |
sharikapongubala | i will push another patchset peterstac | 23:02 |
peterstac | ah, ok - I'll keep an eye out for it then | 23:02 |
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shayneburgess | Hey I'm trying to use cluster shrink on redis and I'm just getting this error every time. ERROR: Some nodes cannot be removed (check slots) (HTTP 400) | 23:08 |
shayneburgess | Anyone know how this is supposed to work? | 23:09 |
shayneburgess | do I need to go into Redis and manually move slots around? | 23:09 |
peterstac | shayneburgess, yes I believe that's correct (if I'm remembering what vgnbkr said at midcycle) | 23:13 |
peterstac | Trove'll set up the slots on an initial create, but to grow/shrink you need to move them manually | 23:13 |
peterstac | and you can't shrink unless you clear them from the node in question | 23:14 |
shayneburgess | i see | 23:14 |
shayneburgess | thanks. I'll give that a shot | 23:14 |
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