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openstackgerrit | WonChon proposed openstack/trove: Fix restoring redis data is not ended https://review.openstack.org/382174 | 01:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/trove: Removed H237 from tox.ini https://review.openstack.org/375504 | 10:18 |
openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/trove: Extract RPMPackagerMixin https://review.openstack.org/366140 | 10:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Pundaleek P Belamge proposed openstack/trove-specs: Datastore version cloudinit support https://review.openstack.org/382972 | 13:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Pundaleek P Belamge proposed openstack/trove-specs: Datastore version cloudinit support https://review.openstack.org/382972 | 14:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Pundaleek P Belamge proposed openstack/trove-specs: Datastore version cloudinit support https://review.openstack.org/382972 | 14:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Pundaleek P Belamge proposed openstack/trove-specs: Datastore version cloudinit support https://review.openstack.org/382972 | 14:42 |
openstackgerrit | Pundaleek P Belamge proposed openstack/trove-specs: Datastore version cloudinit support https://review.openstack.org/382972 | 14:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Morgan Jones proposed openstack/trove: [WIP] Multi-Region Support https://review.openstack.org/382495 | 15:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Trevor McCasland proposed openstack/trove: Remove downgrade https://review.openstack.org/382676 | 16:19 |
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amrith | pbelamge, hello. you pinged on PM? | 16:44 |
amrith | if it relates to trove, this is a better place so others can join in as well. | 16:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Trevor McCasland proposed openstack/trove: Remove downgrade https://review.openstack.org/382676 | 16:47 |
amrith | trevormc, the downgrade thing looks good. thx | 16:48 |
amrith | let's wait for the tests to do their thing | 16:48 |
pbelamge | this is w.r.to service_type.cloudinit scripts | 16:58 |
pbelamge | currently, trove supports these scripts as mysql.cloudinit | 17:00 |
amrith | ok | 17:00 |
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pbelamge | suppose user adds script for mysql-server-5.6, the instances for mysql will be created for mysql 5.6 only | 17:03 |
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pbelamge | there is no option for 5.7 mysql unless they register dedicated image to trove for 5.7 mysql | 17:03 |
pbelamge | similarly, for cassandra, some user may go with 2.2, some with 3.0 and some with latest | 17:04 |
pbelamge | for all these versions they need to maintain independent images registered with trove | 17:05 |
amrith | ok, that's fine. but is this a real issue that someone is facing? | 17:05 |
amrith | do you actually have different cloudinit data that you want to send to different server versions? | 17:05 |
amrith | for example, I don't use any cloudinit data at all | 17:05 |
amrith | and the system is quite fine with that | 17:06 |
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pbelamge | if no cloudinit data at all then we need to have one image per version in the image store, am I right? | 17:06 |
amrith | Note that the code in models.py (taskmanager/models.py) checks if there is a file and only uses one if it exists; it is not mandatory. | 17:06 |
amrith | so my question is this, assuming that you have one cloudinit data per datastore/version, then what? does the rest of trove just work with both 5.6 and 5.7 (say?) | 17:07 |
pbelamge | if we want to support mysql, maria, postgres, cassandra, redis, we need to have 1 dedicated image for each of these, correct? | 17:07 |
openstackgerrit | Deepak proposed openstack/trove: Changed the home-page url link https://review.openstack.org/383154 | 17:08 |
amrith | yes, that is how trove is designed, correct. | 17:12 |
amrith | or rather, that is how it is normally deployed. | 17:13 |
amrith | but it isn't necesary to do that. | 17:13 |
pbelamge | ok, using cloudinit data, we can have a single image (base-image) irrespective of any datastore, register that image with trove for the versions of the datastores to be supported | 17:14 |
amrith | I see, very interesting idea. will your single cloudinit file work for centos, fedora, redhat, ubuntu, and who knows what other operating system there may be on the guest? | 17:15 |
amrith | and what version of the database would be installed on that image? would you have all the databases installed (and all their versions) or no database whatsoever? and how do you know what version will be on there when it gets going? | 17:15 |
pbelamge | we can write a script that can check what is the base os type and based on that it can use os level package manager to install and configure the datastore | 17:16 |
pbelamge | for enterprise not sure if this helps, but, for community edition we feel it'll help | 17:17 |
amrith | what is community edition and enterprise? | 17:17 |
pbelamge | mysql community/enterprise edition | 17:17 |
amrith | i don't follow | 17:18 |
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pbelamge | for ex. normally we install mysql community edition using apt-get on ubuntu and configure it - without any steps needing further which may be needed to use enterprise version of mysql | 17:19 |
pbelamge | we group those instructions in a script, send that script through cloudinit on a base image which doesn't have any database application pre-installed | 17:20 |
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amrith | wow, sounds like a hack to me. | 17:26 |
amrith | is this a feature that at&t would like to use in production? | 17:27 |
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pbelamge | we are just trying to understand clients requirements and have that in place before we get those requests | 17:28 |
amrith | you do realize that this means that each time you launch a database instance, you will be sucking down a mysql instance and installing it. and if you launched two mysql instances a day or two apart, they could get different versions of mysql, and all of that. | 17:28 |
amrith | not to mention the fact that we don't really know for sure with all this whether the common guest agent will work on both database versions ... | 17:28 |
pbelamge | No | 17:28 |
pbelamge | we'll get database applications from upstream, and maintain our own repo which will not update frequently | 17:29 |
pbelamge | even if there is a change in version it'll be minor version | 17:31 |
amrith | but you don't want to build a guest image with the db on it; even though that db won't update frequently? ok, I don't see what real problem this solves, and it sounds like a hack to me at best. | 17:31 |
amrith | and if you did want to design such a solution, I certainly would not go down the path of hardcoding version numbers into file names | 17:31 |
amrith | but that's just me ... | 17:32 |
pbelamge | I understand your point | 17:32 |
pbelamge | we just thought it'll minimize the number of images to be created and maintained | 17:34 |
pbelamge | "but you don't want to build a guest image with the db on it;" - No the guest will not have any db on it prior to trove instance creation | 17:35 |
pbelamge | during instantiation, cloudinit script will fetch the required package from internal mirror which doesn't get updated frequently | 17:36 |
amrith | yes, I understand. given that your db's don't change often, I don't see the point in this. that's all. reducing the number of images does not seem like a really beneficial goal to me but I may be missing something. | 17:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Morgan Jones proposed openstack/trove: Fix RPC Versioning https://review.openstack.org/381241 | 20:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Petr Malik proposed openstack/trove: Fix scenario tests https://review.openstack.org/383490 | 21:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Trevor McCasland proposed openstack/trove: Remove downgrade https://review.openstack.org/382676 | 22:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Trevor McCasland proposed openstack/python-troveclient: Add i18n to v1/shell.py https://review.openstack.org/383370 | 22:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Trevor McCasland proposed openstack/python-troveclient: Add i18n to v1/shell.py https://review.openstack.org/383370 | 22:22 |
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