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| openstackgerrit | Yu Chaochao proposed openstack/trove master: Trove configuration-create limit 128 varchar affects mysql SQL_MODE func https://review.openstack.org/445780 | 00:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | jian.song proposed openstack/trove master: Update DIB doc https://review.openstack.org/459911 | 02:16 |
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| liuqing | https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1691365 | 07:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1691365 in OpenStack DBaaS (Trove) "[trove] Need to stop using image/floating_ip passthroughs in novaclient" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to liuqing (liuqing123) | 07:54 |
| liuqing | Who can fix quickly? I think it will take me a long time for I am not that familar with it | 07:55 |
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| trevormc | hi smatzek, are you there? | 13:34 |
| smatzek | yes | 13:34 |
| trevormc | I just wanted to let you know I added your item to the agenda for todays meeting | 13:34 |
| trevormc | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 13:34 |
| trevormc | I saw your question in chat yesterday but saw you already logged off | 13:34 |
| trevormc | you can re-word it if you like but I think we all have interest in that topic and it will just turn into whatever we want to talk about. | 13:35 |
| smatzek | the meeting is still 18:00 GMT / 1 PM CDT? I have two conflicts at that time and may not be able to participate | 13:37 |
| trevormc | smatzek, yeah unfortunately, there was no announcement of a time change yet. | 13:37 |
| trevormc | keep a look out on the dev mailing list, if you have any concerns you want me to raise in the meeting you can let me know before it here | 13:38 |
| trevormc | on a side note, I'm going to try out the manual-install docs and see if they work for me lol | 13:38 |
| trevormc | https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/doc/source/dev/manual_install.rst | 13:38 |
| trevormc | i think trovestack is great but when most developers are used to devstack.. its just another silo. I'd like to provide an alternative that is more interactive with devstack so the integration of trove is not so much a black box. | 13:40 |
| smatzek | I am new to Trove only having pulled down the code last week. I am not new to OpenStack dev though. What I'm looking for is the major pieces of work that need to be done, technical debt to be removed, and preferrably pointers into the code where the work needs to happen. | 13:42 |
| trevormc | smatzek, i think what amrith has been trying to say is that we can decide what we want to work on, what is bothering you about trove? | 13:45 |
| trevormc | do we want to support cockroach db? | 13:46 |
| trevormc | if we keep looking in the past we may never get to newer things, although the things you mention are important, its just as important to be forward looking to | 13:46 |
| trevormc | if you don't have any concerns with trove, then you can work on the backlog of reviews I pointed out, or there is a list of bugs filed for trove. I can tell you there are no dashboard contributors and I believe we have absolutely zero tempest tests. | 13:48 |
| smatzek | my list: get gates working, get support for multiple versions of a DB flavor, update supported levels of DBs to more modern versions, get support on Xenial. We need to fix the issues with the base function before expanding to new features so as to build on a solid base. | 13:48 |
| trevormc | that sounds like a perfect list, so I guess you want to expand on those? any inparticular? | 13:49 |
| trevormc | the best way to get the gates working is to file bugs when the errors are found | 13:50 |
| smatzek | One thought we had was to focus on a certain subset of the (12?) DBs supported. I don't have the exact subset list we'd be interested in but can get it. | 13:50 |
| trevormc | we should be triaging bugs so that way they aren't duplicated too | 13:50 |
| trevormc | ok all i remember is mysql is our garunteed db, cassandra xenial support amrith is working on, mongodb xenial support is rpittau | 13:51 |
| trevormc | im not sure what % of users are for what database. | 13:51 |
| trevormc | do you use any of the databases other than three above? | 13:52 |
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| trevormc | I believe johnma mentioned she has some db2 files ready | 13:54 |
| rpittau | well couchbase | 13:55 |
| smatzek | I don't have the list that we're targetting intially or wanting to support in the future. I'd defer to Manoj on that. I have a partial list in my head but don't want to misspeak. I know mongo is on the list. | 13:56 |
| trevormc | rpittau, yeah couchbase would be a good one. I think google trends could be a good indication of which dbs we should focus | 13:58 |
| trevormc | smatzek, i think postgresql would be a good one. | 13:59 |
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| trevormc | smatzek, rpittau here is what I believe are our most common databases on google trends https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=cassandra,db2,mongodb,postgresql,redis | 14:04 |
| trevormc | cassandra, db2, mongodb, postgresql, redis all others had search counts under 5 | 14:04 |
| rpittau | lol no mysql ? | 14:05 |
| kumarmn | Our list was mostly the Open Source DBs from https://db-engines.com/en/ranking | 14:06 |
| kumarmn | MySQL, Postgres, Mongo, Cassandra, Redis | 14:06 |
| trevormc | mysql is given lol | 14:07 |
| trevormc | ok I think we have our list folks | 14:07 |
| trevormc | kumarmn, exactly what I proposed minus db2 | 14:08 |
| kumarmn | MariaDB is probably an easy add | 14:11 |
| trevormc | kumaran, we have support for these databases, you can see them in the directory guestagent. The problem is we need to decide which ones are worth supporting at the moment because of our shortage of development and expertise. | 14:12 |
| trevormc | https://github.com/openstack/trove/tree/master/trove/guestagent/datastore/experimental | 14:12 |
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| trevormc | kumarmn, if you are a maraidb expert and you will benefit from adding support for it, then by all means. | 14:13 |
| trevormc | im not trying to set the bar to expert but what im trying to say is we should focus on our audience here | 14:14 |
| trevormc | we need trove to be popular among more than just developers. Businesses which in turn should provide developers is my understanding. | 14:14 |
| trevormc | on the other hand trove can be seen as a devloper tool so i really don't know half the time lol | 14:15 |
| kumarmn | I am not the expert, but I had one of my colleagues work on MariaDB. | 14:15 |
| trevormc | kumarmn, if you can make an introduction I can help them get started contributing, but my technical knowledge is not all there :) | 14:16 |
| kumarmn | This colleague could not travel last week, so he is probably the only one from our team you have not met yet. | 14:20 |
| trevormc | oh there is more of you? awesome! | 14:21 |
| trevormc | s/is/are | 14:21 |
| trevormc | lets get the cloning machines ready. | 14:22 |
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| trevormc | the manual install docs still have keystone references | 14:38 |
| trevormc | does anyone know the commands for tenant-create on OSC? | 14:38 |
| trevormc | or ill just move to the sdks channel or read the docs lol | 14:38 |
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| rpittau | trevormc, openstack project create but I guess I'm late :P | 15:23 |
| trevormc | yeah im reading the CLI ref, almost all the commands need to be updated on the manual install guide | 15:23 |
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| johnma | Quick reminder: Trove weekly meeting is in 42 minutes @openstack-meeting-alt | 17:18 |
| trevormc | You can view and even edit the agenda here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting#Topics_for_Discussion | 17:18 |
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| trevormc | meeting time! | 18:00 |
| johnma | thanks trevormc. Meeting just started @openstack-meeting-alt | 18:01 |
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| trevormc | johnma, just by dropping a comment in a review will get a response, checkout the responses I got from the stale reviews I did yesterday. | 19:01 |
| trevormc | songjian, you mentioned something about unneccessary patches. I think we should work on pushing related-code driven by a reason like a blueprint more than just improving dis-jointed things here and there. | 19:02 |
| trevormc | i've learned the point of being an open-source developer is to make someone else's life easier. | 19:03 |
| trevormc | find someone's problem, understand how you can fix it for them with the trove team, then come up with a plan of action and start pushing code. | 19:04 |
| trevormc | - that may be harder than you think though.. | 19:05 |
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| songjian | thanks trevormc,These sounds very helpful | 19:07 |
| trevormc | songjian, lets focus on the install guide lets review our patches and get a robust installation of trove ready for our new contributors. | 19:10 |
| trevormc | i suggest the install guide because of your interest in doc changes :P | 19:10 |
| trevormc | If you can't follow the steps correctly, file a bug, if you can fix it then assign it to yourself. | 19:11 |
| trevormc | songjian, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1691538 | 19:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1691538 in OpenStack DBaaS (Trove) "Update client commands in the manual install guide" [Undecided,New] | 19:13 |
| songjian | ok | 19:15 |
| songjian | over time may buy a server to build my own environment, when the time will verify our existing installation documents | 19:16 |
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| trevormc | songjian, sounds like a good idea. I have trouble getting instances to run myself, even though I have the recommended hardware.' | 19:18 |
| songjian | by the way,trevormc,Where was the wiki that had just discussed to update weekly meeting time during the meeting? | 19:18 |
| trevormc | so the wiki is here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting#Topics_for_Discussion | 19:19 |
| trevormc | I just need to add a section for the time zones. Feel free to make a suggestion. | 19:19 |
| trevormc | you have to sign in at the top right corner, and then you will see the option to edit. | 19:19 |
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| trevormc | I actually have to run for the rest of the day! I'll be here tomorrow... and until infinity and beyond | 19:20 |
| songjian | Ready to work tomorrow in the update. From the work there are 5 hours, would like to sleep for a while. Good night | 19:22 |
| songjian | These two days I also have some hardware problems and trouble, ready to see if the company has reference | 19:24 |
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