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| zioproto | hello folks | 14:00 |
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| jamesmcarthur | good day | 14:00 |
| aprice | hello | 14:01 |
| shamail | Hi | 14:01 |
| zioproto | hello | 14:01 |
| shamail | Let’s give this 2-3 min | 14:02 |
| zioproto | no problem | 14:03 |
| shamail | zioproto: can you run the meeting? I’m multitasking | 14:03 |
| zioproto | I will do | 14:04 |
| shamail | Thanks | 14:04 |
| zioproto | startmeeting uc | 14:04 |
| shamail | Include the # in front | 14:04 |
| zioproto | #startmeeting uc | 14:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 12 14:04:52 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zioproto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'uc' | 14:04 |
| zioproto | #chair shamal jamesmcarthur aprice | 14:05 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: shamal | 14:05 |
| openstack | Current chairs: aprice jamesmcarthur shamal zioproto | 14:05 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 14:05 |
| shamail | Hi | 14:05 |
| zioproto | #chair shamail | 14:05 |
| openstack | Current chairs: aprice jamesmcarthur shamail shamal zioproto | 14:05 |
| zioproto | so guys, rollcall | 14:05 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 14:06 |
| zioproto | mmm sorry aprice , guys is not appropriate. I would say "so folks" !!! | 14:06 |
| shamail | Hi | 14:06 |
| aprice | no worries :) | 14:06 |
| zioproto | I have to improve my english :) | 14:06 |
| zioproto | hello mrhillsman | 14:06 |
| zioproto | #chair mrhillsman | 14:06 |
| openstack | Current chairs: aprice jamesmcarthur mrhillsman shamail shamal zioproto | 14:06 |
| zioproto | agenda #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/UserCommittee | 14:07 |
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| zioproto | #topic Update on election process | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update on election process (Meeting topic: uc)" | 14:07 | |
| VW | Hey folks | 14:07 |
| VW | sorry I was running late | 14:07 |
| zioproto | I counted about 5 to 7 people running for the elections, right ? | 14:08 |
| VW | yes | 14:08 |
| zioproto | hello VW | 14:08 |
| zioproto | #chair VM | 14:08 |
| VW | we got a couple more this weekend | 14:08 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: VM | 14:08 |
| openstack | Current chairs: VM aprice jamesmcarthur mrhillsman shamail shamal zioproto | 14:08 |
| zioproto | #chair VW | 14:08 |
| openstack | Current chairs: VM VW aprice jamesmcarthur mrhillsman shamail shamal zioproto | 14:08 |
| mrhillsman | yes, i think there are 5 candidates iirc | 14:08 |
| jamesmcarthur | 6 i believe, as of yesterday | 14:08 |
| zioproto | Do we have a list published somewhere ? | 14:08 |
| shamail | I think everyone made it in before the deadline | 14:08 |
| jamesmcarthur | with Kevin Carter | 14:09 |
| aprice | yeah, there are 6 | 14:09 |
| shamail | jamesmcarthur: +1 | 14:09 |
| shamail | Ping | 14:10 |
| VW | We had a list of 3 friday. We need to circle back with Tim/Shilla today. Get them to add the new folks and send out the poll | 14:10 |
| shamail | VW: +1 | 14:11 |
| zioproto | what needs to be done ? | 14:12 |
| VW | #action VW email election chairs with list of candidates and ask them to load them in as choices, open the poll and kick off the election | 14:12 |
| VW | the poll will have the list of AUCs in it, correct | 14:12 |
| VW | and it will email out the "ballots"? | 14:12 |
| jamesmcarthur | Melvin Hillsman, Yih Leong Sun, James Page, Amy Marrich, Joseph Sandoval, Kevin Carter << total list of candidates | 14:13 |
| jamesmcarthur | I'll pull a fresh AUC list and send it over to you for review, VW | 14:13 |
| mrhillsman | VW as i understand it | 14:13 |
| VW | cool - go ahead and copy Tim/Shilla on that jamesmcarthur | 14:14 |
| VW | just to cut out the middleman | 14:15 |
| jamesmcarthur | roger that | 14:15 |
| mrhillsman | we need to add the wg/team leaders as well to make sure there are not any folks we miss | 14:15 |
| mrhillsman | iirc it happened last time | 14:16 |
| shamail | Yep... also does SIG qualify for AUC? | 14:17 |
| jamesmcarthur | #action Jimmy to send AUC list to Tim Bell, Shilla Saebi, and VW | 14:17 |
| mrhillsman | easiest to just give you the leaders of those to cc? | 14:17 |
| VW | I *think* we determined last time that we weren't going to mix up the process this go round shamail | 14:17 |
| jamesmcarthur | I think we agreed during the prior meeting that SIG does not qualify for AUC | 14:18 |
| VW | but that there may be something to explore thre | 14:18 |
| shamail | Thanks VW | 14:18 |
| shamail | Missed the last meeting | 14:18 |
| VW | it takes us down the bigger/messier road of SIG governance :D | 14:18 |
| mrhillsman | correct me if i am wrong, in addition to that, we add wg/team leaders even if they have moved over to a SIG? | 14:18 |
| shamail | Yeppp | 14:18 |
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| shamail | mrhillsman: +1 since they were a WG/team during the last 6 months | 14:19 |
| zioproto | are we all set? should we step to the next point into the agenda ? | 14:20 |
| shamail | Teams that moved more than 6 months ago would be in a gray area | 14:20 |
| mrhillsman | if everyone agrees | 14:21 |
| mrhillsman | i can take action to email all of them, explain the situation, and ask for any AUC folks they think they have | 14:21 |
| shamail | Thanks | 14:22 |
| zioproto | OK for me | 14:22 |
| VW | sounds good | 14:22 |
| VW | keep jamesmcarthur and the chairs in the loop | 14:22 |
| jamesmcarthur | ++ | 14:22 |
| mrhillsman | #action mrhillsman email wg/team leaders asking for AUCs | 14:22 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 14:22 |
| zioproto | anything else ? | 14:23 |
| mrhillsman | nope | 14:24 |
| mrhillsman | not from me | 14:24 |
| VW | good here | 14:24 |
| zioproto | #topic Meetings on 1st, 2nd, 3rd...vs Even/Odd (carry over from last week) | 14:25 |
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| zioproto | No idea about this | 14:25 |
| VW | so, mrhillsman put this on last week. Basically, the discussion was around changing the verbiage on the wiki pages, etc to make the meeting time more clear | 14:25 |
| zioproto | expect that for me is impossible to attend out of business hours now that my baby walks and I have to chase her | 14:26 |
| VW | all seemed in agreement, but not enough of us to vote | 14:26 |
| zioproto | I missed last meeting that was at 19:00 in my timezone | 14:26 |
| VW | mobile device + IRC client + strong tape = problem solved zioproto :) | 14:26 |
| zioproto | is impossible for me when I am at home to work :( | 14:26 |
| shamail | The only challenge would be to keep eavesdrop in sync | 14:26 |
| zioproto | VW: :O | 14:26 |
| mrhillsman | yeah, so instead of saying even/odd, 1,3,5 1800 2,4 1400 instead of the even/odd | 14:26 |
| shamail | I think it only understands odd/even? | 14:27 |
| zioproto | just to whatever works for the strongest attendance | 14:27 |
| zioproto | maybe it would make sense to see who wins the elections and accomodate the meeting times for the new group | 14:27 |
| shamail | Ah | 14:27 |
| zioproto | I guess I am the only one in a non-US timezone in the all group | 14:28 |
| zioproto | at the moment | 14:28 |
| shamail | Let’s vote? | 14:28 |
| VW | so, to be clear - we aren't looking to change times. Just changing how we advertise | 14:28 |
| shamail | Understood | 14:29 |
| VW | but to shamail's point, does tooling support that | 14:29 |
| mrhillsman | yeah, no timezone change | 14:29 |
| mrhillsman | we can hold off vote, let me as real quick | 14:29 |
| shamail | It could be accomplished with multiple entries I think | 14:29 |
| shamail | But +1 to verification | 14:30 |
| zioproto | are we waiting for voting something or we are just stucked in the conversation ? | 14:32 |
| mrhillsman | waiting for verification, code supports an adhoc option | 14:33 |
| mrhillsman | WEEK_COUNTS = {'weekly': 2, 'biweekly-even': 1, 'biweekly-odd': 1, 'adhoc': 0} - so let me check, it is not a critical thing | 14:33 |
| mrhillsman | we can move on if no objections | 14:33 |
| shamail | Sounds good, thanks for checking | 14:34 |
| VW | ++ | 14:34 |
| zioproto | OK | 14:35 |
| zioproto | #topic UC planning session at PTG | 14:36 |
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| zioproto | I worked today a little bit on the google doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wu_tKwogCvirDV3kd4YkWa4bWb_UMT4j4llle6j5MRg/edit?usp=sharing | 14:36 |
| zioproto | trying to get this done today, with the summary of the email threads | 14:36 |
| zioproto | and a proposal for the mini-survey | 14:37 |
| zioproto | so that we can circulate it before the PTG | 14:37 |
| VW | sounds good | 14:37 |
| VW | you are doing better than I am on the doc | 14:37 |
| jamesmcarthur | there is a doc here (https://docs.google.com/document/d/19DhGbvO-WfQKG5MJEUqQ2xfVBFZYjOR8H7JvfQNHUA0/edit) that has PTG discussion topics | 14:37 |
| jamesmcarthur | perhaps we could merge the two? | 14:38 |
| VW | yes please | 14:38 |
| mrhillsman | there's quite a bit on the release cycle one, maybe link to it from planning doc | 14:38 |
| VW | #toomanylinks | 14:38 |
| mrhillsman | not against either | 14:38 |
| mrhillsman | merge or link? | 14:40 |
| zioproto | jamesmcarthur: well this document I am working on is about the wider LTS topic | 14:40 |
| zioproto | I would link it | 14:40 |
| zioproto | to the PTG document | 14:40 |
| shamail | +1 | 14:41 |
| VW | yes - that sounds good - link zioproto's doc to the one jamesmcarthur called out | 14:41 |
| zioproto | how do we do the mini-survey ? Once we have agreement on the questions we should ask Foundation Stuff ? | 14:41 |
| zioproto | Staff ? | 14:41 |
| shamail | Ping aprice | 14:42 |
| aprice | :) | 14:42 |
| jamesmcarthur | We should put it out on the operators mailing list. | 14:42 |
| mrhillsman | i linked them both :) | 14:42 |
| zioproto | because times are short is it ok if I ping you UC member on this IRC channels also out of meeting times, for quick feedback ? | 14:42 |
| jamesmcarthur | And do some promotion around getting as many operators as possible to take the survey | 14:42 |
| aprice | in the past we have used Survey Monkey for surveys like this. jamesmcarthur and I can help with that piece. | 14:42 |
| zioproto | thanks ! | 14:42 |
| mrhillsman | ping here + email i think zioproto | 14:42 |
| zioproto | mrhillsman: OK ! | 14:42 |
| zioproto | what we have more for the PTG ? | 14:43 |
| VW | yes - two pronged approach please. I actually don't have a bouncer set up for freenode | 14:43 |
| * VW judges himself harshly | 14:44 | |
| zioproto | time check: 15 minutes left | 14:44 |
| mrhillsman | were we able to get any idea of ambassadors able to attend (even if remotely)? | 14:44 |
| shamail | I’m going to send an email in 45 min to Ashlee | 14:45 |
| shamail | Sorry for the delay! | 14:45 |
| mrhillsman | cool, thx shamail | 14:45 |
| shamail | Re: Ambassadors | 14:45 |
| shamail | I’ll copy everyone | 14:45 |
| mrhillsman | next week maybe we can create proper agenda? | 14:45 |
| mrhillsman | or this week and review next? | 14:46 |
| mrhillsman | i can take action if it makes sense | 14:46 |
| VW | I roughed one out already | 14:47 |
| VW | but please edit | 14:47 |
| mrhillsman | just clean up what we have already basically, make it a little more structure | 14:47 |
| VW | :) | 14:47 |
| mrhillsman | ok cool | 14:47 |
| VW | it's hard to predict what will make it through one meeting to the next | 14:47 |
| mrhillsman | nothing more from me zioproto on ptg | 14:47 |
| VW | me either | 14:47 |
| mrhillsman | sorry VW, i meant for ptg | 14:47 |
| VW | oh | 14:48 |
| VW | cool | 14:48 |
| mrhillsman | your agenda work for UC meetings are good hehe | 14:48 |
| VW | well - feel free to edit the one for this meeting too :P | 14:48 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 14:48 |
| zioproto | #topic Ops midcycle update | 14:49 |
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| mrhillsman | things look to be all done for tokyo, conversation has started regarding openstack days nordic, information has been provided to their event team on "minimum requirements" | 14:51 |
| jamesmcarthur | yeah, i don't think they'll be able to meet those minimum requirements | 14:51 |
| mrhillsman | i believe they have a meeting on the 20th to discuss them, jamesmcarthur has been graciously liasioning | 14:51 |
| jamesmcarthur | 3 rooms for 2 days is a big ask | 14:51 |
| VW | yep - I'm sure we'll discuss the regionality of 2H 2018 meetup tomorrow | 14:52 |
| jamesmcarthur | I'm discussing it with lsell and we're trying to come up with some alternatives in the event that doesn't work out. | 14:52 |
| jamesmcarthur | So stand by for an update in the next couple of weeks :) | 14:52 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 14:53 |
| VW | groovy | 14:54 |
| zioproto | time check: 5 minutes left | 14:55 |
| zioproto | #topic Other business | 14:55 |
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| aprice | One thing I have added to the agenda for the PTG is the user survey. | 14:56 |
| VW | yes! | 14:56 |
| aprice | We brought it up at the Sydney Summit, but we are looking to move to one promotion cycle / report this year, so I want to make sure that yall are fully up to date as well as the new members once they are elected. | 14:56 |
| zioproto | great ! :) | 14:57 |
| VW | sounds like a plan | 14:57 |
| VW | Looking forward to discussing | 14:57 |
| mrhillsman | ++ | 14:58 |
| zioproto | user survey is important. We should not forget to add the question about the Web Interface technology used for Openstack | 14:58 |
| zioproto | To get real data on the feeling that Horizon is not widely adopted | 14:58 |
| VW | also, before we run out of time. I'm assuming we are canceling the IRC meeting on the 26th. Since some of us will be in the all day joint meeting | 14:58 |
| aprice | ++ | 14:58 |
| zioproto | ++ | 14:58 |
| aprice | zioproto: I will follow up with you on the user survey question | 14:59 |
| zioproto | thanks ! | 14:59 |
| VW | great! | 14:59 |
| * VW edits wikis | 14:59 | |
| zioproto | So folks, that's all for today ? can we close up here ? :) | 14:59 |
| shamail | Nothing else from my end | 14:59 |
| mrhillsman | ttyl | 14:59 |
| mrhillsman | thx for chairing zioproto | 14:59 |
| zioproto | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 12 15:00:02 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| aprice | Thanks everyone! | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2018/uc.2018-02-12-14.04.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2018/uc.2018-02-12-14.04.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2018/uc.2018-02-12-14.04.log.html | 15:00 |
| zioproto | thanks ! | 15:00 |
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| zioproto | hello | 21:44 |
| zioproto | I worked a bit more on the Google doc | 21:44 |
| zioproto | but I give up for today | 21:45 |
| zioproto | I will give an update tomorrow | 21:45 |
| zioproto | it is already "almost tomorrow" in my timezone :D | 21:45 |
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